Re: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-04 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >On Thu, 2 May 2002, Norman Dunbar wrote: > >> And, they don't have any QLs anywhere nowadays. (hopeless attempt to get on >> topic) > >Yes. If I ever get to twist Nasta's arm to do it (which won't be for a >while as he's got more im

Re: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-03 Thread Bill Waugh
- Original Message - From: "Norman Dunbar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:24 AM Subject: RE: [ql-users] ROM versions > The circular wheel thingy was a Russion Nokolia something or other, back > about 1850 ish (+- 30

RE: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-03 Thread ZN
On 03/05/02 at 09:24 Norman Dunbar wrote: >The circular wheel thingy was a Russion Nokolia something or other, back >about 1850 ish (+- 30 years). Someone is doing the 'black stuff' Russian (Though I am not sure he was) Nipkovliev. Anyone passing by Munich can do a quick detour to the Deuts

Re: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-03 Thread Darren Branagh
Dilwyn wrote:- > The Welsh rolling picture described usually happens when Welsh QL > Traders visit Irish QL places for some of the Black Stuff (and I'm > not talking about Black QLs!) :-)) TV sponsored by Guinness. A least its better than the Irishman who had trouble with his new "washing

RE: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-03 Thread Norman Dunbar
PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Bill Waugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 7:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] ROM versions I rather

RE: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-03 Thread Norman Dunbar
://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Roy Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] ROM versions I seem to recall the invention of copper wire - two Scotsmen fighting over a

Re: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-02 Thread Phoebus Dokos
At 06:28 ìì 2/5/2002, Roy Wood wrote: >In message ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Norman >Dunbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >>Don't forget who invented it in the first place though :o) >>(I suspect, as with all smugness, I shal regret that sentence !) >I seem to recall the invention of copper wire - two

Re: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-02 Thread Roy Wood
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Norman Dunbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Don't forget who invented it in the first place though :o) >(I suspect, as with all smugness, I shal regret that sentence !) I seem to recall the invention of copper wire - two Scotsmen fighting over a penny. -- Roy Wood

Re: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-02 Thread Dilwyn Jones
>Dave >Quantum Mechanic Ah! A new collective noun for QLers! Synonym for "tinkerer"? -- Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html

Re: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-02 Thread Dilwyn Jones
>The Welsh, well, their picture tends to roll up and down, and it's kind of >fuzzy! > >The Irish picture? They haven't managed to fix that for hundreds of years, >despite marathon talks by TV engineers! The Welsh rolling picture described usually happens when Welsh QL Traders visit Irish QL place

Re: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-02 Thread Bill Waugh
- Original Message - From: "Norman Dunbar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 3:02 PM Subject: RE: [ql-users] ROM versions > I wrote : > > >> Maybe, Alexander G Bell invented it first, but his version used a >

RE: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-02 Thread Dave
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Norman Dunbar wrote: > Been there, done that & authorised ! For those not in the know, ql-chat is a mailing list where off-topic chat isn't frowned upon - in fact, it's thoroughly encouraged. Imagine going to the pub, downing a few jars, then going home and trying to write

RE: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-02 Thread Norman Dunbar
>> >> Maybe I'd better sign up to QL Chat :o) >> Indeed :o) Been there, done that & authorised ! - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com

RE: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-02 Thread Dave
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Norman Dunbar wrote: > And, they don't have any QLs anywhere nowadays. (hopeless attempt to get on > topic) Yes. If I ever get to twist Nasta's arm to do it (which won't be for a while as he's got more important things to do) I think the BBC was the perfect education machin

RE: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-02 Thread Norman Dunbar
I wrote : >> Maybe, Alexander G Bell invented it first, but his version used a rotating >> wheel (or something) and wasn't very good. And, of course, what I wrote was completely incorrect. Apologies. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial

RE: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-02 Thread Norman Dunbar
-Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: [ql-users] ROM versions >> According to the American history books To be found under 'fiction' in all good libraries :o) >> "John Crapper" invented the toilet) Maybe that's why A

RE: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-02 Thread Dave
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Norman Dunbar wrote: > >> Well, the Scots don't like the expense of a deflection circuit, so the > >> picture's usually small ;) > > Don't forget who invented it in the first place though :o) > (I suspect, as with all smugness, I shal regret that sentence !) According to th

RE: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-02 Thread Norman Dunbar
-Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: [ql-users] ROM versions >> Well, the Scots don't like the expense of a deflection circuit, so the >> picture's usually small ;) Don't forget who invented it in the first place though

RE: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-02 Thread Dave
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Norman Dunbar wrote: > This may be true Dave, but you should see the Scottish, Welsh and Irish Well, the Scots don't like the expense of a deflection circuit, so the picture's usually small ;) The Welsh, well, their picture tends to roll up and down, and it's kind of fuzzy

RE: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-02 Thread Norman Dunbar
-Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: Re: [ql-users] ROM versions >> However, the English PAL system is BETTER! ;P This may be true Dave, but you should see the Scottish, Welsh and Irish versions - even better IMHO :o) >> If you watch US TV

Re: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-01 Thread Phoebus Dokos
At 06:40 ðì 1/5/2002, Al Feng wrote: >Essentially, when you swap QL ROMs, the video output for "TV" mode >changes from NTSC to PAL and vice-versa for JSU & JS, respectively. > >Al I would imagine that it is "patch"-able though no? Phoebus

Re: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-01 Thread Phoebus Dokos
At 04:44 ìì 1/5/2002, you wrote: >On 01/05/02 at 15:02 Phoebus Dokos wrote: > > >>I have also constructed (ah, the good old days!) a 68020 add-on board... > >>I did a lot of guesswork when doing that circuit and more logic would > >>have been needed to get it to work right... I would probably mak

Re: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-01 Thread ZN
On 01/05/02 at 15:02 Phoebus Dokos wrote: >>I have also constructed (ah, the good old days!) a 68020 add-on board... >>I did a lot of guesswork when doing that circuit and more logic would >>have been needed to get it to work right... I would probably make short >>work of it today since now I hav

Re: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-01 Thread ZN
On 01/05/02 at 19:40 Dave wrote: >However, the English PAL system is BETTER! ;P Oh yes. Especially on a 100Hz TV :-) but a decent capture card and large monitor will do fine. >> To summarise: nothing to spectacular would happen if the ROMs were >> exchanged. >Ow... I was hoping for a rift in t

Re: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-01 Thread Dave
In reply to the comment about a 5 lb heatsink on the 8301, Phoebus studiously and wittily remarked: > Then you would probably break the mainboard ;-) Don't forget it's a > Sinclair Design not Nasta's ;-) Ahhh, so THAT'S why his designs are all so small and pokey, with the chips practically tou

Re: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-01 Thread Phoebus Dokos
At 03:40 ìì 1/5/2002, you wrote: >On Wed, 1 May 2002, ZN wrote: > > > The EU and US specs are actually remarkably similar, and only really differ > > in the number of lines drawn on the screen. 312 EU, 262 US. However, both > >However, the English PAL system is BETTER! ;P I do agree... being e

Re: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-01 Thread Dave
On Wed, 1 May 2002, ZN wrote: > The EU and US specs are actually remarkably similar, and only really differ > in the number of lines drawn on the screen. 312 EU, 262 US. However, both However, the English PAL system is BETTER! ;P If you watch US TV for too long, you go blind, and I'm not refe

Re: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-01 Thread Phoebus Dokos
At 02:46 ìì 1/5/2002, ZN wrote: > >It may be possible to use a bit of external logic to slow the 68008 down on >certain cycles and make it compatible again. I know Stuart H had to solve >that for the GC. >In fact, running the 68008 at double rate would probably make the logic >simpler, I suspect

Re: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-01 Thread Al Feng
Okay, here's the skinny: I've been using JS ROM code installed via a Tom Bent designed daughter board since about 1988 in my US/Samsung-made QL. I've also used MGUK & MGUS (?) ROM code in my Samsung-made QL. I also have a pair of *real* JS ROMs for the day when the EPROM may give up the ghost

Re: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-01 Thread ZN
On 01/05/02 at 16:24 Dave wrote: >>> Essentially, when you swap QL ROMs, the video output for "TV" mode >>> changes from NTSC to PAL and vice-versa for JSU & JS, respectively. >> Errm...don't the ROMs contain the CPU instructions...the video output is >> shurely the job of other board chips (ZX8

Re: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-01 Thread Dave
On Wed, 1 May 2002, Robert Newson wrote: > Al Feng wrote: > > > Essentially, when you swap QL ROMs, the video output for "TV" mode > > changes from NTSC to PAL and vice-versa for JSU & JS, respectively. > > > > Errm...don't the ROMs contain the CPU instructions...the video output is > shurely t

Re: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-01 Thread Robert Newson
Al Feng wrote: > Essentially, when you swap QL ROMs, the video output for "TV" mode > changes from NTSC to PAL and vice-versa for JSU & JS, respectively. > Errm...don't the ROMs contain the CPU instructions...the video output is shurely the job of other board chips (ZX8301, etc). However, (t

Re: [ql-users] ROM versions

2002-05-01 Thread Al Feng
Essentially, when you swap QL ROMs, the video output for "TV" mode changes from NTSC to PAL and vice-versa for JSU & JS, respectively. Al On Wed, 1 May 2002 04:50:15 + (GMT) Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Hi all, > > What do you think would happen if you put JS ROMs in a US spec QL?

[ql-users] ROM versions

2002-04-30 Thread Dave
Hi all, What do you think would happen if you put JS ROMs in a US spec QL? Or JSU ROMs in a UK spec QL? Dave

Re: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-29 Thread Q Branch
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Norman Dunbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >>> Somehow I can't see Roy singing "I wish it could be Xmas Everyday..." >>> though. He really was quite mad in his younger days :-)) > >Tee, hee, I can ! Oh dear this is getting terribly off topic but there is a l

RE: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-28 Thread Norman Dunbar
>> Somehow I can't see Roy singing "I wish it could be Xmas Everyday..." >> though. He really was quite mad in his younger days :-)) Tee, hee, I can ! Norman. - Norman Dunbar EMail: [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-28 Thread Darren . Branagh
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Re: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-27 Thread Q Branch
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> I was recalling an incident in my Rock'n'Roll days when I was on tour >> with Manfred Mann. > >In spite of his denial I'm convinced Roy is Roy Wood of Wizard >After all anyone could have been under that beard and face make

Re: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-27 Thread Bill Waugh
Q Branch wrote: > > >oh yes, and returning with Roy Wood sometime (he may remember the > >occasion) where I had a package heavily sealed with tape, which took me > >a _very_ long time, and much chinese puzzle patience, to pack. > > > >Customs: "What is in that", making to open it. > >Me (looking

Re: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-26 Thread Q Branch
>oh yes, and returning with Roy Wood sometime (he may remember the >occasion) where I had a package heavily sealed with tape, which took me >a _very_ long time, and much chinese puzzle patience, to pack. > >Customs: "What is in that", making to open it. >Me (looking concerned): Oh I wouldn't try

Re: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-26 Thread Tony Firshman
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 at 21:07:58, Tony Firshman wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 at 20:38:32, Bill Waugh wrote: >(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > >>Q Branch wrote: >>> >>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Firshman >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >>> >On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 a

Re: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-26 Thread Tony Firshman
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 at 20:38:32, Bill Waugh wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >Q Branch wrote: >> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Firshman >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> >On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 at 11:44:30, Claude Mourier 00 wrote: >> >(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >> > >> >>>I get thrown

Re: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-26 Thread Bill Waugh
Q Branch wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Firshman > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 at 11:44:30, Claude Mourier 00 wrote: > >(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > > > >>>I get thrown out of the plane next week on the way to Salzburg (8-)# > > > >>Take care ! This could

Re: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-26 Thread Tony Firshman
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 at 08:39:59, Norman Dunbar wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >I tried again, this time I went for the 'save to disc' option, rather than >just 'open from wher it is' and indeed the file is there. >Sorry about the misunderstanding Tony. No misunderstanding. I actually did a

RE: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-26 Thread Norman Dunbar
tp://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Dent Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 8:38 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin I got 1 file Gc249.bin size 65,536 packed 35,169 also with WinZip so seems OK Jon.

RE: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-26 Thread Dent Jonathan
I got 1 file Gc249.bin size 65,536 packed 35,169 also with WinZip so seems OK Jon. -Original Message- From: Norman Dunbar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 9:27 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

RE: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-25 Thread Norman Dunbar
The file appears to be empty Tony ! I, being nosey, decided to try a download and did it twice. Both times there were zero files and zero bytes when opened in WinZip. Regards, Norman. - Norman Dunbar

Re: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-25 Thread Tony Firshman
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 at 00:06:10, Q Branch wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Firshman ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >>On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 at 11:44:30, Claude Mourier 00 wrote: >>(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >> I get thrown out of the plane next week on the

Re: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-25 Thread Q Branch
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Firshman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 at 11:44:30, Claude Mourier 00 wrote: >(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > >>>I get thrown out of the plane next week on the way to Salzburg (8-)# > >>Take care ! This could be considered by US as a terrostis

Re: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-25 Thread Q Branch
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jerome Grimbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >I think Roy is solding the EPROM programming, not the image by itself. >Programming an EPROM is really a valuable service. This is indeed the case. I charge only for the chip programming and a small amount goes to offset

Re: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-25 Thread Tony Firshman
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 at 11:38:37, Claude Mourier 00 wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >>See you the week after next in Paris? >If nothing goes wrong (and Vigipirate is not a problem, because they put in >jail all bearded men ;-) : yes I think I am OK, as my beard is now getting white (8-)# ...

Re: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-25 Thread Tony Firshman
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 at 11:44:30, Claude Mourier 00 wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >>I get thrown out of the plane next week on the way to Salzburg (8-)# >Take care ! This could be considered by US as a terrostist attack now ;-) Only if I explode. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/6

RE: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-25 Thread Claude Mourier 00
Take care ! This could be considered by US as a terrostist attack now ;-) -Message d'origine- De : Tony Firshman (...) I get thrown out of the plane next week on the way to Salzburg (8-)# (...)

Re: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-25 Thread Jerome Grimbert
Tony Firshman makes some magical things to make me read } >Is it worth upgrading from previous versions ? } If you have a very early version, then of course. } I don't have a change by change list, but I suspect the last few } versions adding nothing significant. } One change was the FLP_JIGGLE t

RE: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-25 Thread Claude Mourier 00
If nothing goes wrong (and Vigipirate is not a problem, because they put in jail all bearded men ;-) : yes -Message d'origine- De : Tony Firshman I though hadn't realised that Roy still sold upgrades, so I quickly withdraw my rom image offer in case I get thrown out of the plane next

Re: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-25 Thread Tony Firshman
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 at 09:23:28, Claude Mourier 00 wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >Is it worth upgrading from previous versions ? If you have a very early version, then of course. I don't have a change by change list, but I suspect the last few versions adding nothing significant. One chang

RE: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-24 Thread Claude Mourier 00
Is it worth upgrading from previous versions ? -Message d'origine- De : Tony Firshman >The latest Super Gold Card Rom issued by Miracle was 2.49 >and that was the Rom used in all the SGC's sold by Quanta. >Tony used to blow them and I believe many were used to update GC"s Yep - and I can

Re: [ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-24 Thread Tony Firshman
On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 at 11:27:44, Nicholls, Bruce wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > >Dilwyn > >The latest Super Gold Card Rom issued by Miracle was 2.49 >and that was the Rom used in all the SGC's sold by Quanta. >Tony used to blow them and I believe many were used to update GC"s Yep - and I c

[ql-users] Rom Versions - FWD from Admin

2001-09-24 Thread Nicholls, Bruce
Dilwyn The latest Super Gold Card Rom issued by Miracle was 2.49 and that was the Rom used in all the SGC's sold by Quanta. Tony used to blow them and I believe many were used to update GC"s John.