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From: Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ql-users] CST Thor
SNIP, SNIP
[Geoff Wicks for Quanta chairman or editor if he retires from trading,
now that Robin Barker is stepping down!!!]
er hem, Sorry you are out of order, or rather out of time
Bill Waugh wrote:
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From: Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ql-users [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] CST Thor
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Marcel Kilgus wrote:
This puts the seemingly massive current SMSQ/E for QPC in perspective
Robert Newson wrote:
...
second screen is at 163840-196607 (18000-1); with system variables
starting at 163840 (18000)!
oops...can't convert this early in the morning...meant 28000-2
Notably because of all your work, Marcel. Thank's for all your contributions.
Claude
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Marcel Kilgus
Envoyé : mardi 3 février 2004 21:17
À : ql-users
Objet : Re: [ql-users] CST Thor
(...)
A lot
has happened
At launch, in France, advertising was : 32k ROM (I still have proof)
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Tony Firshman
Envoyé : mardi 3 février 2004 22:11
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Objet : Re: [ql-users] CST Thor
That is wrong Tarquin.
The QL
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That is wrong Tarquin.
The QL internal ROM space has always been 48k. The original couldn't
...
He also gave a good front end for everything, which was very
much on a par with Windows 3.x
Was this the ICE environment I've seen mentioned with the Thor? I
haven't
found anything on the web about this yet, but then I suppose google
isn't
'the web' yet :)
ICE was an Icon Controlled
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 at 15:42:59, Witchy wrote:
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Hi folks,
I found this list after googling for David Oliver and CST, who hopefully
some of you will remember produced the Thor range of machines. Having got my
paws on what I think used to be a working Thor WF2 (before
Witchy wrote:
I found this list after googling for David Oliver and CST, who hopefully
some of you will remember produced the Thor range of machines. Having got my
paws on what I think used to be a working Thor WF2 (before someone removed
the hard drive) the other week I'm trying to find any
Hi Marcel,
Thanks for the corrections :) I'll update the page now.
Cheers,
W
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: 03 February 2004 17:55
To: ql-users
Subject: Re: [ql-users] CST Thor
Witchy wrote:
I found
Marcel Kilgus wrote:
In true Sinclair style it was marketed long before it was ready,
resulting in initial shipments needing an extra ROM 'dongle' out the
back because they couldn't fit SuperBASIC into (I think) 32K.
48K.
no 32K, 48K=32K ROMs+16K Kludge later 48K ROMs
--
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 at 18:54:54, Marcel Kilgus wrote:
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Witchy wrote:
I found this list after googling for David Oliver and CST, who hopefully
some of you will remember produced the Thor range of machines. Having got my
paws on what I think used to be a working Thor
Tarquin Mills wrote:
In true Sinclair style it was marketed long before it was ready,
resulting in initial shipments needing an extra ROM 'dongle' out the
back because they couldn't fit SuperBASIC into (I think) 32K.
48K.
no 32K, 48K=32K ROMs+16K Kludge later 48K ROMs
Hm, right, sorry
I didn't think anyone would even try to squeeze the whole of
QDOS/SuperBasic into 32kb...
IIRC only the QDOS had to go into 32 kb. Superbasic was supposed to be
loaeded from microdrives.
Arnould
Tony Firshman wrote:
48K.
yes, 48k - and not just superbasic - the whole O/S.
This was the great thing about the QL.
Yes, amazing. But still you've always needed more than that to gain a
really usable system. Space for WIN driver, FLP driver, maybe RAM disc,
the whole extended environment and
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Marcel Kilgus wrote:
This puts the seemingly massive current SMSQ/E for QPC in perspective
(currently at 287kb. However, last version for QPC1 was 191kb big! A lot
has happened since then... the 3 included screen driver alone take up a
whole lot of space).
Does anyone
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Sent: 03 February 2004 19:42
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windows to update without pausing the programs.
The QL multitasking since then has been 'real
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 at 19:06:40, Tarquin Mills wrote:
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Marcel Kilgus wrote:
In true Sinclair style it was marketed long before it was ready,
resulting in initial shipments needing an extra ROM 'dongle' out the
back because they couldn't fit SuperBASIC into (I think)
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 at 21:04:33, Marcel Kilgus wrote:
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Tarquin Mills wrote:
In true Sinclair style it was marketed long before it was ready,
resulting in initial shipments needing an extra ROM 'dongle' out the
back because they couldn't fit SuperBASIC into (I think)
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 at 20:49:14, Witchy wrote:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tony Firshman
Sent: 03 February 2004 19:42
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ql-users] CST Thor
windows to update without
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 at 21:17:08, Marcel Kilgus wrote:
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Tony Firshman wrote:
48K.
yes, 48k - and not just superbasic - the whole O/S.
This was the great thing about the QL.
Yes, amazing. But still you've always needed more than that to gain a
really usable system.
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From: Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ql-users [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] CST Thor
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Marcel Kilgus wrote:
This puts the seemingly massive current SMSQ/E for QPC in
perspective
Bill Waugh wrote:
Does anyone remember what was originally intended to occupy the
32768-65535 space? Was that all meant to be available for ROM
expansion?
Or was some of it intended for some other use?
Second screen ?
Nah, far off. That's at 160kb ($28000).
Marcel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: 03 February 2004 21:25
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Subject: Re: [ql-users] CST Thor
Pffft :-) Because I don't know the full ins and outs of any of the
machines I've got (other than
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 at 19:41:48, Tony Firshman wrote:
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48K.
yes, 48k - and not just superbasic - the whole O/S.
This was the great thing about the QL.
It was ready to go without having to load the O/S from file, with a full
basic supported command line.
Mea Culpa.
It was
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: 03 February 2004 22:36
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Subject: Re: [ql-users] CST Thor
If anyone is interested I think Joe Miller still has some
Thor stuff ( 2 or 3 machines but maybe
Tony Firshman wrote:
When memory became short (often in the pre-Gold Card days) you could
see him using the 32k screen area as a working space!
Actually there was a bug in exactly this code that more often than not
crashed the machine in this situation. I have only fixed it a few months
ago
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