Re: Hop count problem in qmail-send

2000-11-20 Thread markd
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 08:54:24AM +0100, Richard van den Berg wrote: Hi there, I just started using qmail 1.03 a week ago, and made some interesting discovery. I had the following .qmail file: | preline formail -I "Bcc: `some/script`" | qmail-inject Obviously, this causes a loop since

Re: SMTP on a port other than 25

2000-11-20 Thread Ricardo Cerqueira
a propos tcpserver with smtp - on Solaris, where zero '0' before smtp word has been written the program not works. So we uses it without to write in command this '0' writting only nummber of port and 'smtp' Errr... and it works??? Those args are supposed to be "IP address" and "port". 0

Re: Hop count problem in qmail-send

2000-11-20 Thread Richard van den Berg
markd wrote: I just started using qmail 1.03 a week ago, and made some interesting discovery. I had the following .qmail file: | preline formail -I "Bcc: `some/script`" | qmail-inject Obviously, this causes a loop since qmail-inject will try to deliver to Hmm. When I try the same

Slackware

2000-11-20 Thread Luka Gerzic
Does anyone have a slackware startup scripts for qmail w/ qmailpop3d (on tcpserver)? There are some problems when try to fix configure script given on lwq. difference from RH is that slack have /etc/rc.d/ instead /etc/init.d/ and also files rc. instead of rc.dX dir's. greetz

Re: ORBS helps hackers to break into srevers

2000-11-20 Thread Piotr Kasztelowicz
On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, Adam McKenna wrote: Hello, this list is for discussion of qmail, if you wish to discuss orbs please take this to SPAM-L or elsewhere. The answer for all subscibers, Adam, I am not sure that this is disscusion for spam-l rather than qmail list. Qmail is one MTA only,

Information

2000-11-20 Thread Cleiton Luiz Siqueira
Hi all, I just started using qmail 1.03 a week ago too, I have had some problems with it, and I've not found in the FAQ the solutions for these problems. Qmail is using postgres to authenticate the users. The authentications is working well. I used checkpassword daemon to connect in the

Re: Slackware

2000-11-20 Thread Steve Fulton
Here's that portion of my rc.local file (in /etc/rc.d) /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R 0 pop3 /usr/local/qmail/bin/qmail-popup pop3.esotericsystems.org \ /bin/checkpassword /usr/local/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 21 | \ /usr/local/qmail/bin/splogger pop3d Works like a

Re: ORBS helps hackers to break into srevers

2000-11-20 Thread OK 2 NET - André Paulsberg
Qmail is one MTA only, which suports and propagates ORBS "moral" and technical thus availablility to connect with qmail platform to ORBS and reject mail from listed by ORBS hosts. Neither sendmail nor postfix is interested with ORBS anty-spam system and don't support ORBS. The ORBS system

Re: ORBS helps hackers to break into srevers

2000-11-20 Thread Johan Almqvist
[sorry but this was just too much...] On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 01:33:22PM +0100, Piotr Kasztelowicz wrote: Qmail is one MTA only, which suports and propagates ORBS "moral" and technical thus availablility to connect with qmail platform to ORBS and reject mail from listed by ORBS hosts.

Re: Slackware

2000-11-20 Thread Milen Petrinski
Here is my part of rc.local echo "Starting qmail..." /var/qmail/rc echo "Starting tcpserver..." env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/bin/ezmlm" /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u1001 -g102 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -u1011 -g104 0

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-20 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Just like many others, IANAL, but ... Paul Jarc wrote: "Pavel Kankovsky" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But there are ABSOLUTELY no references to dist.html or softwarelaw.html in the source tarballs. So what? So when a lot of people download the files, they don't know what the licensing is

dot-qmail help

2000-11-20 Thread Pat Berry
Hi all, Preface: I've been through dot-qmail, qmail-command, and the list archives and I just not getting it. Problem: I have a dot-qmail file in ~alias that goes to a number of people and I would like to restrict it so that only a single host may send mail to that alias. I'm pretty sure I

Re: dot-qmail help

2000-11-20 Thread Charles Cazabon
Pat Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problem: I have a dot-qmail file in ~alias that goes to a number of people and I would like to restrict it so that only a single host may send mail to that alias. I'm pretty sure I need to check $QMAILHOST, no? If in the dot-qmail file I do something

Delivery Service Notification

2000-11-20 Thread Daniel POGAC
Is qmail support Delivery Service Notification ??? If the answer is yes, how ican enable it Daniel POGAÈ Tech. Support TatraSoft Group s.r.o Sibírska 4 83102 Bratislava tel: +421-7-55574033 fax: +421-7-55566385 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Separation of qmail-smtpd qmail-remote

2000-11-20 Thread Gan
Hi! I want to separate my mail server into 2 machines , (simple relaying but too many users) , How can I do that? Should i use controls/smtproutes file ?

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-20 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
Michael T. Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 20 November 2000 at 10:34:23 -0500 Just like many others, IANAL, but ... Paul Jarc wrote: I see no theories of his there. The only part there he attributes to himself is: He wrote it all -- its all DJB's theories -- they may be

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-20 Thread Paul Jarc
Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 09:05:04PM -0500, Paul Jarc wrote: : I don't know which of these theories will succeed in court. I also : don't think you should have to care. So I promise I won't sue you : for copyright violation for downloading documents

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-20 Thread Paul Jarc
"Michael T. Babcock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Jarc wrote: "Pavel Kankovsky" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But there are ABSOLUTELY no references to dist.html or softwarelaw.html in the source tarballs. So what? So when a lot of people download the files, they don't know what the

smtp/tcp service is flooded

2000-11-20 Thread Travis Turner
What is happening to my server any clues. Nov 19 13:53:49 mail inetd[516]: smtp/tcp server failing (looping or being flooded$ Nov 19 14:04:09 mail inetd[516]: smtp/tcp server failing (looping or being flooded$ Nov 19 14:21:56 mail inetd[516]: smtp/tcp server failing (looping or being flooded$

Re: RBL

2000-11-20 Thread Mate Wierdl
msci.memphis.edu This should be relays.msci.memphis.edu. How did you enter these domains? Why did you enter both dul.maps.vix.com and dialups.mail-abuse.org What is the difference? Mate

Re: ORBS helps hackers to break into srevers

2000-11-20 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 01:33:22PM +0100, Piotr Kasztelowicz wrote: On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, Adam McKenna wrote: Hello, this list is for discussion of qmail, if you wish to discuss orbs please take this to SPAM-L or elsewhere. The answer for all subscibers, Adam, I am not sure that this is

Re: SMTP on a port other than 25

2000-11-20 Thread Rob Hines Jr.
Just go into /etc/services and make a name alias if you feel more comfortable with that. tcpserver actually looks up 'smtp' in the services file to find out the port number. right now, I am using smtp-ghost in my second tcpserver init, and I set up smtp-ghost in the services file to look at my

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-20 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 11:43:44AM -0500, Paul Jarc wrote: The same way as if rights.html were included in qmail-1.03.tar.gz: I'd ask people who had copies to present them, to support my claim. There would be more such copies if it were included in qmail-1.03.tar.gz, but I'm not going to

Re: smtp/tcp service is flooded

2000-11-20 Thread Charles Cazabon
Travis Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is happening to my server any clues. Nov 19 13:53:49 mail inetd[516]: smtp/tcp server failing (looping or being flooded$ Nov 19 14:04:09 mail inetd[516]: smtp/tcp server failing (looping or being flooded$ Presumably you are receiving several

smtp service being flooded

2000-11-20 Thread Travis Turner
What is happening to my server any clues. Nov 19 13:53:49 mail inetd[516]: smtp/tcp server failing (looping or being flooded) stopping service for 10 minutes$ Nov 19 14:04:09 mail inetd[516]: smtp/tcp server failing (looping or being flooded$ Nov 19 14:21:56 mail inetd[516]: smtp/tcp server

Re: ORBS helps hackers to break into srevers

2000-11-20 Thread Alex Pennace
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 07:08:33AM +0100, Piotr Kasztelowicz wrote: It not difficult to spuppose, that if MTA were old and insecure=possible for open relay the rest of sotwares are insecure too. There are many insecure hosts that are not on the ORBS list simply because they are not running an

Re: smtp/tcp service is flooded

2000-11-20 Thread Alex Pennace
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 10:26:41AM -0700, Travis Turner wrote: What is happening to my server any clues. Nov 19 13:53:49 mail inetd[516]: smtp/tcp server failing (looping or being flooded$ Nov 19 14:04:09 mail inetd[516]: smtp/tcp server failing (looping or being flooded$ [snip]

RE: customizable undeliverable email messages

2000-11-20 Thread Troy Muller
David et all, See below: -- Troy Muller Sr. Unix Administrator SAGEport, Inc I laughed, I cried, I then used Debian Linux. -Original Message- From: David Dyer-Bennet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 10:11 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re:

Re: RBL

2000-11-20 Thread Jon Griffin
I think I entered the names that I got off of the anti-spam doc on qmail.org. I could have messed up also, thanks for the corrections. At 11:32 AM 11/20/00 -0600, Mate Wierdl wrote: msci.memphis.edu This should be relays.msci.memphis.edu. How did you enter these domains? Why did you enter

Re: run file suddenly disappear!!

2000-11-20 Thread Mate Wierdl
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 01:58:13PM +0800, Eric Yu wrote: Mate Wierdl wrote: On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 06:03:31PM +0800, eric yu wrote: /service/qmail-send/log/run #!/bin/sh SETUIDGID=/usr/local/bin/setuidgid # directory for setuidgid MULTILOG=/usr/local/bin/multilog

Re: qmail build problem under SuSE 7.0

2000-11-20 Thread David Benfell
Eek! Looks like my update didn't make it... I did get it to compile and I think it's working... Yay! On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 12:19:38AM -0500, Adam McKenna wrote: On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 07:16:07PM -0800, David Benfell wrote: I serioulsy suggest that you downgrade to your OS's latest

Re: Hop count problem in qmail-send

2000-11-20 Thread markd
1) qmail-inject queues a mail for the original To: address 2) qmail-send delivers this mail using qmail-lspawn to this same .qmail file 3) goto 1 There's an important point you've missed. Step 2a where qmail-lspawn uses qmail-local to deliver the mail to .qmail. qmail-local will

Re: SMTP on a port other than 25

2000-11-20 Thread Ricardo Cerqueira
That's not the issue. According to the original mail, he wrote "tcpserver options 25 smtp" without to write in command this '0' writting only nummber of port and 'smtp' That 25 is supposed to be the IP address where tcpserver is supposed to bind itself to. I _know_ you can write whatever you

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-20 Thread Paul Jarc
Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want an unambiguous license included with the software that explicitly defines what I am allowed to do with it. If you don't need that then fine, but please don't argue that it's not needed, because there are clearly a number of people on this list

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-20 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Paul Jarc wrote: It's the same situation as with, say, Emacs. The GPL doesn't give you permission to get a copy of Emacs; it only specifies what you can do once you have. The nearest I could find to explicit permission to download it is "By FTP we provide source code for all GNU software,

Re: run file suddenly disappear!!

2000-11-20 Thread Paul Jarc
Mate Wierdl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 01:58:13PM +0800, Eric Yu wrote: the log directory for qmail-smtpd is /var/log/qmail/smtpd Yes, but the logdir for qmail-send is /var/log/qmail !! But this should not cause problems. multilog (running in /var/log/qmail) won't

Re: tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used

2000-11-20 Thread Kris Kelley
Jon wrote: When I started up qmail today (it has worked before) I got this error in my /var/log/qmail/smtpd/current - @40003a19660f0523d96c tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used Something else is hogging the port. Is sendmail running on your system? ---Kris Kelley

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-20 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 01:21:16PM -0500, Paul Jarc wrote: Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want an unambiguous license included with the software that explicitly defines what I am allowed to do with it. If you don't need that then fine, but please don't argue that it's not

Re: return receipts

2000-11-20 Thread Gerry Boudreaux
This is a MUA, not a MTA issue... If the MUA honors the receipt request then the MTA will carry it. Hope this helps Gerry At 11:58 AM 11/20/2000, Tzabu wrote: Hi... Some of my clients use Netscape and it's feature Return Receipts. Can anyone tell me what can I do to get them working in

RE: customizable undeliverable email messages

2000-11-20 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
Troy Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 20 November 2000 at 09:46:09 -0800 My basic advice is "it's best not to mess with it". This is a large, complex, can of worms, and it's not (in practice) governed by standards or even written documentation. If this is the case, how come all most

Re: tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used

2000-11-20 Thread Charles Cazabon
Jon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I started up qmail today (it has worked before) I got this error in my /var/log/qmail/smtpd/current - @40003a19660f0523d96c tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used Something is already bound to port 25 on your machine. Perhaps one of

Re: SMTP on a port other than 25

2000-11-20 Thread Rob Hines Jr.
Here's my run script in supervise: #!/bin/sh QMAILDUID=`/usr/xpg4/bin/id -u qmaild` NOFILESGID=`/usr/xpg4/bin/id -g qmaild` MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming` exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 400 \ /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -H -R -l 0 -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c

another problem

2000-11-20 Thread Travis Turner
This is another problem that I am getting. Again if you could send your response to my address I would appreciate it. Thanks Travis Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.appliedi.com. I tried to deliver a bounce message to this address, but the bounce bounced! [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-20 Thread Paul Jarc
Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe he'd think about changing dist.html. After he changed it, could I then continue distributing this package without fear of being sued? If the new dist.html said no, then it would seem clear that you couldn't. This is not an ambiguity in the

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-20 Thread Paul Jarc
"Michael T. Babcock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Jarc wrote: The GPL doesn't give you permission to get a copy of Emacs; it only specifies what you can do once you have. For a lot of people, being able to obtain said software isn't the problem -- its the right to use it in the ways

Re: Information

2000-11-20 Thread Timothy Legant
On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 11:33:22AM -0200, Cleiton Luiz Siqueira wrote: Hi all, I just started using qmail 1.03 a week ago too, I have had some Welcome! problems with it, and I've not found in the FAQ the solutions for these problems. [snip authentication stuff...] My problems

RE: secrets and lies

2000-11-20 Thread Jamin Collins
I may be missing some of the point here, but the way I see it, there is a distinct desire to have a license provided with the software indicating what is and isn't allowed. This is a fairly normal practice in the software industry (open and closed source alike). IMHO, the license included

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-20 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 04:21:51PM -0500, Paul Jarc wrote: Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe he'd think about changing dist.html. After he changed it, could I then continue distributing this package without fear of being sued? If the new dist.html said no, then it would seem

still having problems

2000-11-20 Thread Travis Turner
At 12:46 PM 11/20/2000 -0500, you wrote: I have followed the faq but I am still getting errors upon trying to telnet to the localhost using tcpserver. What I did was 1. Created a file under /var/qmail called tcpserver with the start up script described in the FAQ. 2. Created links in

Re: still having problems

2000-11-20 Thread Chris Johnson
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 03:19:17PM -0800, Travis Turner wrote: At 12:46 PM 11/20/2000 -0500, you wrote: I have followed the faq but I am still getting errors upon trying to telnet to the localhost using tcpserver. What I did was 1. Created a file under /var/qmail called tcpserver with the

Re: run file suddenly disappear!!

2000-11-20 Thread Mate Wierdl
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 01:52:21PM -0500, Paul Jarc wrote: Mate Wierdl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 01:58:13PM +0800, Eric Yu wrote: the log directory for qmail-smtpd is /var/log/qmail/smtpd Yes, but the logdir for qmail-send is /var/log/qmail !! But this should

Re: SMTP on a port other than 25

2000-11-20 Thread Ricardo Cerqueira
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 03:14:43PM -0500, Rob Hines Jr. wrote: [ a lot of irrelevant stuff ] Which part of "not writing 0, writing number of port _and_ smtp" didn't you understand? Let me translate: It sounds like he wrote "tcpserver -v -H -R -whateveroptions 25 smtp $QMAIL/qmail-smtpd" Can

Re: return receipts

2000-11-20 Thread David L. Nicol
Gerry Boudreaux wrote: This is a MUA, not a MTA issue... If the MUA honors the receipt request then the MTA will carry it. Hope this helps Gerry What about the "notification on delivery" stuff -- is that not an MTA feature? Is it deprecated? Rather it would be a feature of the

databytes option for local mail delivery ?

2000-11-20 Thread Dennis Kavadas
Hi all... I'm aware of the databytes options for remote SMTP... anyone know if there is an option to also set a databytes size for "LOCAL" mail delivery ? Cheers Dennis Dennis Kavadas Network Support Officer University of New South Wales Cornea Contact Lens Research Unit Level 4, Gate 14

Re: return receipts

2000-11-20 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said "David L. Nicol" on Mon, 20 Nov 2000 20:12:46 CST: What about the "notification on delivery" stuff -- is that not an MTA feature? Is it deprecated? Rather it would be a feature of the MDA, has anyone added it to qmail-local? You mean something like what is covered in "man

Re: another problem

2000-11-20 Thread Alex Pennace
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 12:28:55PM -0800, Travis Turner wrote: This is another problem that I am getting. Again if you could send your response to my address I would appreciate it. Thanks Travis Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.appliedi.com. I tried to deliver a bounce

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-20 Thread Nathan J. Mehl
([EMAIL PROTECTED] snipped due to overwhelming qmail-centrism) In the immortal words of Adam McKenna ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): You don't, but others do. For instance, I can distribute a package that contains pristine qmail source and patches, and include a script which applies the patches,

Best IMAP or Maildir ??

2000-11-20 Thread Dennis Kavadas
Hi all... Another question. Just wanted to know, from users experience, the best/suggested IMAP server to use with QMail, I need it to be bullet proof (what else :)) Any suggestions appreciated. Cheers Dennis Dennis Kavadas Network Support Officer University of New South Wales Cornea

Re: Best IMAP or Maildir ??

2000-11-20 Thread Ben Beuchler
On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 04:46:59PM +, Dennis Kavadas wrote: Just wanted to know, from users experience, the best/suggested IMAP server to use with QMail, I need it to be bullet proof (what else :)) I'm very happy with Courier-IMAP. Ben -- Ben Beuchler

Re: ORBS helps hackers to break into srevers

2000-11-20 Thread Piotr Kasztelowicz
On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, OK 2 NET - André Paulsberg wrote: This is NOT true, and you are way off mark. 1. There is no official support of ORBS to my knowledge from QMAIL and its authors, not in the way you are implying in your posting to this list. 2. Sendmail and postfix and ALL other