Hi,
I read Qmail's documentation again and I realized that DJB didn't mention
logging other than qmail-send. Is logging obsolete? I don't think so. But
why other (smtpd, qmtpd, but most importantly pop3d) services lack the
support of logging?
IMHO the technology behind qmail logging is wrong.
On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 04:29:07PM +0200, Balazs Nagy wrote:
> > If you run under tcpserver it's no problem to log to stderr. Everthing
> > you print to stderr will appear in tcpserver's logfile. In fact I'm
> > implementing that right now for qmail-smptd and qmail-pop3d.
> Yeah, but you *should*
On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 06:27:45PM +0300, Tommi Virtanen wrote:
> What about djb's errorsto? If you made the pop3d etc
> log to stderr, running them under tcpserver is trivial.
> Couldn't they be made to work under inetd with errorsto?
>
> Basically it's just
>
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 07:53:48AM +0300, Anand Buddhdev wrote:
> errorsto is supposed to write to a file. splogger is not a file. I don't
> think the above will work.
fifo's are your friend.
... errorsto /my/fifo ...
fifo /my/fifo | splogger
--
Jos Backus _/ _/_/_/
On Thu, 20 May 1999, Jos Backus wrote:
> fifo's are your friend.
>
> ... errorsto /my/fifo ...
>
> fifo /my/fifo | splogger
I didn't try it out on other platforms (UnixWare 7.1 will be done), but on
Linux errorsto didn't work after fifo generated the named pipe. Apparently
because of waiting
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 04:45:26PM +0200, Balazs Nagy wrote:
> Oh, I'm sorry. It doesn't work if I stopped fifo and wanted to use errorsto
> again ;)
errorsto will block when there's no reader on the other side of the fifo (if
that's what you mean ;)
--
Jos Backus _/ _
On Sun, 23 May 1999, Jos Backus wrote:
> On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 08:53:42PM +0200, Balazs Nagy wrote:
> > I didn't try it out on other platforms (UnixWare 7.1 will be done), but
> > on Linux errorsto didn't work after fifo generated the named pipe.
> > Apparently because of waiting for the fifo
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 08:53:42PM +0200, Balazs Nagy wrote:
> I didn't try it out on other platforms (UnixWare 7.1 will be done), but on
> Linux errorsto didn't work after fifo generated the named pipe. Apparently
> because of waiting for the fifo process to poll out the log info.
jos:/tmp% una
Balazs Nagy wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I read Qmail's documentation again and I realized that DJB didn't mention
> logging other than qmail-send. Is logging obsolete? I don't think so. But
> why other (smtpd, qmtpd, but most importantly pop3d) services lack the
> support of logging?
>
> IMHO the tech
Balazs Nagy writes:
> IMHO the technology behind qmail logging is wrong. These inetd-controlled
> services cannot use stderr for logging (as tcpserver), and none of DJB's
> software use syslog. Therefore no logging is applied to these softwares.
That's why you don't use inetd. Inetd is stupi
On Tue, 18 May 1999, Andre Oppermann wrote:
> Balazs Nagy wrote:
> >
> > I see two solutions. The first one is not likely to be realized: use
> > syslog. The another one is much better. My idea is the same as in
> > qmail-start: tcpserver should open a file descriptor for piping through a
> >
On Tue, 18 May 1999, Andre Oppermann wrote:
> Feel free to roll your own patch which send's all it's stuff to syslog.
Well, I think if I hack syslog support into qmail, it won't be qmail anymore
as DJB said before.
> Anyway, who cares about inetd?
Anyone who don't want to install ucspi-tcp. Y
Balazs Nagy wrote:
>
> On Tue, 18 May 1999, Andre Oppermann wrote:
>
> > Balazs Nagy wrote:
> > >
> > > I see two solutions. The first one is not likely to be realized: use
> > > syslog. The another one is much better. My idea is the same as in
> > > qmail-start: tcpserver should open a file
On Tue, 18 May 1999 17:35:09 +0200 (CEST), Balazs Nagy wrote:
>Anyone who don't want to install ucspi-tcp. You cannot say 'qmail-smtpd is
>not inetd conform' because it's not true. This is a bigger issue than
>patching qmail - you cannot sell a qmail-solution without move a step back
>and check
On Tue, 18 May 1999, Fred Lindberg wrote:
> On Tue, 18 May 1999 17:35:09 +0200 (CEST), Balazs Nagy wrote:
>
> >Anyone who don't want to install ucspi-tcp. You cannot say 'qmail-smtpd is
> >not inetd conform' because it's not true. This is a bigger issue than
> >patching qmail - you cannot sell
On 18-May-99 Balazs Nagy wrote:
> On Tue, 18 May 1999, Fred Lindberg wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 18 May 1999 17:35:09 +0200 (CEST), Balazs Nagy wrote:
>>
>> >Anyone who don't want to install ucspi-tcp. You cannot say 'qmail-smtpd is
>> >not inetd conform' because it's not true. This is a bigger issue
On Tue, 18 May 1999, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> Actually it extends into a support issue as well. There are regular issues
> that come up with inetd and tcpwrappers and a few other things and switching
> to tcpserver solves all of them and in a more robust fashion. So in this
> case it really i
On 18-May-99 Balazs Nagy wrote:
> On Tue, 18 May 1999, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
>
>> Actually it extends into a support issue as well. There are regular issues
>> that come up with inetd and tcpwrappers and a few other things and switching
>> to tcpserver solves all of them and in a more robust
On Tue, 18 May 1999, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> Not in this one: ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/qmail/faq.html
Well, I don't check that faq requlary. I use the /var/qmail/doc/FAQ.
> Support was dropped for inetd configurations a few months ago.
Excusez moi, but you meant 'support was dropped *
On 18-May-99 Balazs Nagy wrote:
> On Tue, 18 May 1999, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
>
>> Not in this one: ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/qmail/faq.html
>
> Well, I don't check that faq requlary. I use the /var/qmail/doc/FAQ.
>
>> Support was dropped for inetd configurations a few months ago.
>
>
On Tue, 18 May 1999, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> On 18-May-99 Balazs Nagy wrote:
> > On Tue, 18 May 1999, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> >
> >> Not in this one: ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/qmail/faq.html
> >
> > Well, I don't check that faq requlary. I use the /var/qmail/doc/FAQ.
> >
> >> Support w
On Wed, 19 May 1999, Magnus Bodin wrote:
> On Tue, 18 May 1999, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > On 18-May-99 Balazs Nagy wrote:
> > > On Tue, 18 May 1999, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > >
> > >> Not in this one: ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/qmail/faq.html
> > >
> > > Well, I don't check that faq requ
On Wed, 19 May 1999, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> I'll repeat myself only once more. Go back and check the mail archives.
I checked the archives last night and just now. Dan didn't mention anything
about stopping the support of inetd. Iam sorry, but I don't belive in
others, anything they say.
--
Andre Oppermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Feel free to roll your own patch which send's all it's stuff to syslog.
No need if you use tcpd in inetd:
In /etc/inetd.conf have something like this:
smtpstream tcp nowait.200 qmaild /usr/sbin/tcpd smtp
and then in /etc/hosts.allow,
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