Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-30 Thread Brett Randall
> "Jeroen" == Jeroen ten Berge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't think they have your personal email adres, maybe they have a > bunch of mailgroups which they spam ? Nah...they'd have his address. My e-mail has been spam-free for the last 8 months, and now I'm starting to receive more...

RE: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-30 Thread Jeroen ten Berge
I don't think they have your personal email adres, maybe they have a bunch of mailgroups which they spam ? -Original Message- From: Stephen Bosch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 7:12 PM To: qmail Subject: Re: people are definately starting to ha

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-30 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Felix von Leitner wrote: [...] > PS: If anyone is interested in a mailing list about technical qmail > issues, please tell me. Please. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - more than 70M impressions per day,

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-30 Thread Stephen Bosch
"James T. Perry" wrote: > > Alexander Jernejcic wrote: > > > > hi, > > only for my interest: was this from Money Maker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ? > > i received that today. Oh, crap... you mean to tell me that the qmail list is the reason I'm suddenly getting spammed? God help me... and I kept my

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-29 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Brett Randall on 28 Oct 2000 22:28:51 +1100: > A better alternative, IMHO, is to use a certain anti-spam e-mail > address (someone on this list uses it but I can't remember who) that > only lasts like a week, and then its gone. This gives most ppl enuf > time to reply. This won't cut do

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-29 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 29 Oct 2000 01:00:11 MST: > > and have your *real* address that you give out to people who you want to > > have a stable address be user-@domain and be careful about > > revealing that . :) > > That's a good idea Russ. It is a very good idea, however, you ha

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-29 Thread markd
On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 04:55:14PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > markd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Indeed this is an excellent strategy - if done properly. The problem is, > > a lot of people don't have the ability to capture all addresses in a > > domain - and of course user-random@domain i

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Jack McKinney
Big Brother tells me that Brett Randall wrote: > > "Martin" == Martin Jespersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > A better alternative, IMHO, is to use a certain anti-spam e-mail > address (someone on this list uses it but I can't remember who) that That would be I. For mailing lists, it

RE: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Austad, Jay
Why are you such an asshole? Who's the owner of this list? I'm getting sick of hearing Felix's shit. -Original Message- From: Felix von Leitner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 6:56 PM To: Qmail mailing list Subject: Re: people are definat

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Russ Allbery
markd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Indeed this is an excellent strategy - if done properly. The problem is, > a lot of people don't have the ability to capture all addresses in a > domain - and of course user-random@domain is trivially defeated by a > competent slicer and dicer if user@domain is

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Felix von Leitner
Thus spake Martin Jespersen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Nice to see that people are able to be constructive around here *pats Felix on his >little head* While we are talking about "constructive", please construct yourself a gut and shoot yourself, idiot. Felix

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Martin Jespersen
Nice to see that people are able to be constructive around here *pats Felix on his little head* Felix von Leitner wrote: > > Thus spake Martin Jespersen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > Martin> is there any chance that the list's admin would consider > > > Martin> removing the header info that shows

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Martin Jespersen
"Robin S. Socha" wrote: > > Martin> is there any chance that the list's admin would consider > Martin> removing the header info that shows the adress of the sender > Martin> before sending it on to the list? > > That's a *very* stupid idea. > Sorry for pointing this out to your ego, but that

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Alex Pennace
On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 09:37:08PM +0900, James T. Perry wrote: > Alexander Jernejcic wrote: > > > > hi, > > only for my interest: was this from Money Maker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ? > > i received that today. > > > > ;) a > > YUP! Ditto. PGP signature

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 28 October 2000 at 07:48:59 -0700 > > >> through a command that checks the References in the e-mail, and if > > > markd> That's not a bad idea. Allbut the original harvester will not > > markd> have that information - assuming most lists are

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread markd
> >> through a command that checks the References in the e-mail, and if > markd> That's not a bad idea. Allbut the original harvester will not > markd> have that information - assuming most lists are sold/shared > markd> sans original content. > > My Perl is a bit rusty and I'm not game to t

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Brett Randall
> "markd" == markd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Here's a crazy idea: And it puts the pressure on crap MUA's, too :) >> Use the user-random@domain format, but have the e-mail piped >> through a command that checks the References in the e-mail, and if >> it contains a valid reference to an e

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread markd
On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 12:32:47AM +1100, Brett Randall wrote: > > "markd" == markd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > markd> As you say, it relies on MUAs faithfully reproducing > markd> References. Fortunately for us .qmail types, mess822 provides > markd> reliable access to header fields

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Robin S. Socha
>> "Brett" == Brett Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "Martin" == Martin Jespersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> is there any chance that the list's admin would consider Martin> removing the header info that shows the adress of the sender Martin> before sending it on to the li

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Brett Randall
> "markd" == markd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: markd> As you say, it relies on MUAs faithfully reproducing markd> References. Fortunately for us .qmail types, mess822 provides markd> reliable access to header fields for those who want to markd> implement that idea. I might even look int

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread markd
> Here's a crazy idea: And it puts the pressure on crap MUA's, too :) > Use the user-random@domain format, but have the e-mail piped through a > command that checks the References in the e-mail, and if it contains a > valid reference to an e-mail that was posted from your own mail relay, > then it

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Brett Randall
> "markd" == markd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: markd> Hmm. Lemme get this right. You're telling me that people markd> modify their email addresses so that spammers cannot markd> automatically harvest them yet you then say that Gnus has code markd> that automatically processes them? Are a

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread markd
On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 10:28:51PM +1100, Brett Randall wrote: > Martin> is there any chance that the list's admin would consider > Martin> removing the header info that shows the adress of the sender > Martin> before sending it on to the list? > I wouldn't recommend this...how then can we

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread James T. Perry
Alexander Jernejcic wrote: > > hi, > only for my interest: was this from Money Maker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ? > i received that today. > > ;) a YUP! cheers, jamie ps maybe I should start including all spam-email addresses I have received in the past in my signature so they could harvest thei

RE: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Alexander Jernejcic
s! end == > -Original Message- > From: Martin Jespersen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 1:21 PM > To: Qmail mailing list > Subject: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this > list.

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Brett Randall
> "Martin" == Martin Jespersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> Hi all I have now gotten spam to two of my adresses that i Martin> have only used publicly on this list. Ditto...and only in the last month. I am getting some degree of spam now. Martin> is there any chance that the list'

people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Martin Jespersen
Hi all I have now gotten spam to two of my adresses that i have only used publicly on this list. is there any chance that the list's admin would consider removing the header info that shows the adress of the sender before sending it on to the list? /Martin