At 09:59 16.11.99 -0200, Carlo Gibertini wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I instaled qmail with Maildir, but cannot figure how to do for each time
>I add a user the linux automaticly create the Maildir.
Actually it depends on what system you use, in RedHat and Hp-UX there is a
directory called /etc/skel/ which
> Actually it depends on what system you use, in RedHat and Hp-UX there is a
> directory called /etc/skel/ which is exactely what's beeing copied into the
> new home-dir.. so if you do a maildirmake in that directory and create a
> .qmail file which contains ./Maildir/ then things should be ok
> Im getting this error message with one of my domains How do I fix this.
> delivery 149: deferral: Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._(#4.2.1)
Make sure that the Maildir is set up correctly - correct location,
ownership, and permissions. As a quick and dirty hack, try:
chown -R {user.group} ~{user}
On Sat, 20 May 2000, suresh wrote:
> Hello
> I have installed qmail.but not very sure whether i have done it properly.if
> i telnet to port 25 it works but if i telnet to 110 ,I am getting this error
> "- ERR this user has no $homeMaildir .Do i have to install maildir
>
you have to do "maildi
On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 05:32:16PM +0800, Vince wrote:
>
>
> all my incoming mails are gone (i cant find them) even if i have a
> succesful mail delivery
>
> my /var/qmail/rc file content:
>
> exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
> qmail-start ./Maildir
>
> is this correct?
Nope, you nee
Try removing Maildir/ from /etc/skel (or /etc/newuser)
Brett Randall
-Original Message-
From: Alan Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, June 29, 2000 7:00 PM
Subject: Maildir
>There is one thing bothering me for a while. I first compiled q
check your /skel directory remove your .qmail file there.
if your using linux try in /etc/skel
At 05:59 PM 6/29/00 +0900, you wrote:
>There is one thing bothering me for a while. I first compiled qmail using
>Maildir but decided to back to Mailbox instead later. But whenever I add a
>ne
One other thing is that each of the home directories must have a .qmail file
which contains ./Maildir/ as well (exactly as I have typed it), and make
sure that it contains a Maildir naturally with the owner and group being the
same as who will be accessing it.
Brett Randall.
Manager
InterPlaneta
> /usr/bin/tcpserver 0 pop3 /usr/sbin/qmail-popup
> diavolos.oberberg-online.de /bin/checkpassword /usr/sbin/qmail-pop3d
> Maildir &
Here is definitely an error - if you use vpopmail you cannot use the
checkpassword provided by DJB.
Regarding the delivery you should first try to use th
Brett Randall wrote:
> One other thing is that each of the home directories must have a .qmail file
> which contains ./Maildir/ as well (exactly as I have typed it), and make
> sure that it contains a Maildir naturally with the owner and group being the
> same as who will be accessing it.
>
Allr
Frank Tegtmeyer wrote:
> > /usr/bin/tcpserver 0 pop3 /usr/sbin/qmail-popup
> > diavolos.oberberg-online.de /bin/checkpassword /usr/sbin/qmail-pop3d
> > Maildir &
>
> Here is definitely an error - if you use vpopmail you cannot use the
> checkpassword provided by DJB.
I found this in the
/
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Philipp Steinkrüger
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 7:32 PM
> To: Brett Randall; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: MailDir
>
>
> Brett Randall wrote:
>
> > One other thing
Brett Randall wrote:
> OK, try changing the ownership of the Maildir and the .qmail file to the
> actual person that the mail is being delivered to...When qmail-local tries
> delivering there, it relies on those permissions to be able to write to the
> Maildir
>
Hmm, i cannot do this, because th
tions
http://ipsware.com/
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Philipp Steinkrüger
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 7:51 PM
> To: Brett Randall; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: MailDir
>
>
> Brett Randall wrote:
&g
> I found this in the qmail-FAQ, Question 5.3: how do i set up qmail-pop3d.
> So there is a problem with my startup script ?
Definitely. You will not be able to get mails by POP3 for virtual
domains.
> created and i can log on the virtual pop account using sqwebmail.
That would surprise me. Are
Brett Randall wrote:
> OK...I didn't know virtual users actually existed. Somewhere along the line
> qmail has to know where to deliver the mail to, and this is pulled
> (eventually, no matter how many virtualhosts and aliases you have) from the
> passwd file or NIS map. It will go to the home di
Philipp Steinkrüger wrote:
> > Here is definitely an error - if you use vpopmail you cannot use the
> > checkpassword provided by DJB.
>
> I found this in the qmail-FAQ, Question 5.3: how do i set up qmail-pop3d.
> So there is a problem with my startup script ?
Just a poor assumption -- qmail-po
On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 11:10:10AM -0800, Mark Zugsmith wrote:
> Sorry folks, I am brand new to qmail and I am just getting it up and
> running on a test box. I setup Maildir for my home directory and I am just
> wondering if root in fact is the owner for the users Maildir/ directory..
>
>
> ---
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:25:19 -0500,
Chris Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 11:10:10AM -0800, Mark Zugsmith wrote:
> > Sorry folks, I am brand new to qmail and I am just getting it up and
> > running on a test box. I setup Maildir for my home directory and I am just
> >
On Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 12:48:11AM +0100, Peter van Dijk wrote:
> Who invented maildir?
DJB.
--
See complete headers for address, homepage and phone numbers
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 10:02:12PM -0500, cyberruz wrote:
> Interesting...especially when the scripts in /var/qmail/boot don't
> have a trailing '/' after ./Maildir
> (ie. that's how they come with qmail)
#pwd
/var/qmail/boot/
#grep Maildir *
#
There is no file in boot containing a Maildir del
>#pwd
>/var/qmail/boot/
>#grep Maildir *
>#
>There is no file in boot containing a Maildir delivery instruction.
There
>are ./Mailbox examples, and this is correct, but MailBOX and not
MailDIR
>format.
My mistake..sorry...no wonder I can't get the Maildir to work :-)
Rob..
"Attila Csosz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Is there any program that can convert my maildirs( folders containing the
| cur,tmp,new directorys ) to html pages?
How about "cat"?
On Sat, Apr 24, 1999 at 10:16:23PM +0200,
Attila Csosz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there any program that can convert my maildirs( folders containing the
> cur,tmp,new directorys ) to html pages?
>
mhonarc will do reasonable html markup of email messages. It uses its own
database so you wo
Stephane Morand wrote/schrieb/scribsit:
> I am using Maildir with qmail. Before I used pine(with Mailbox)
> I don't know what mailer I can use with Maildir.(forget netscape or this
> kind of stuff)
http://www.mutt.org/
Stefan
Murat Arslan writes:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I use vchkpw-3.4.5 and imap-4.5.vchkpw, with maildir. I added
> 300 (3mb) into the control/databytes file. But I want more.
>
> How can I put quota on the system that calculates the sizes of the
> folders of the user, and if quota exceeded how can I fo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> I'm implementing maildir support for the GNOME's messaging library
> Camel. Camel uses a provider abstraction for mail stores. A store
> provider object allows a MUA to access mail folders and messages through
> a simple storage-independent AP
On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm implementing maildir support for the GNOME's messaging library
> Camel. Camel uses a provider abstraction for mail stores. A store
> provider object allows a MUA to access mail folders and messages through
> a simple storage-independen
On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Here's a bunch of specific questions for which I'd like to have answers.
>
> 1) Should the maildir format be extended to support subfolders?
> The official documentation only mentions the three subdirectories and a
> couple of meta files
Just a performance comment. Qmail is IO bound. Adding additional
subdirectories force additional stat'ing of inode/vnode structures. ...
Typically these are NOT in your cache as you get closer to the
user-directory. With access time (atime) enabled, adding a single
additional directory immediate
On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Daemeon Reiydelle wrote:
> Just a performance comment. Qmail is IO bound. Adding additional
> subdirectories force additional stat'ing of inode/vnode structures. ...
Only if you're actually delivering to the subdirectory, and if the
filesystem does not cache pathnames versus
Sam wrote:
>
> On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Daemeon Reiydelle wrote:
>
> > Just a performance comment. Qmail is IO bound. Adding additional
> > subdirectories force additional stat'ing of inode/vnode structures. ...
>
> Only if you're actually delivering to the subdirectory, and if the
> filesystem does
On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 12:56:45AM +0200, LRiva wrote:
> What are the function of the /tmp and /cur maildir subdirectories ?
Use the following command:
man maildir
and read the maildir manpage.
If 'man maildir' doesn't work, add /var/qmail/man to your MANPATH in
/etc/profile:
On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 12:56:45AM +0200, LRiva wrote:
Hi Lorenzo,
> I have two rather stupid questions as I'm a newbie with Qmail.
> I've just installed Qmail and set it to use maildir-like mailboxes.
> The question is:
> Mutt ask me to specify a file to use as spool mailbox: how should I set
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 09:15:07PM -0400, Michael T. Babcock wrote:
> I'm looking for an easy way to archive old messages in a Maildir (by
> compressing them, like the gzip patch does, perhaps) for users who don't
> believe in deleting old mail (especially their sent mail folder).
> Incidentally,
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 08:30:00PM -0500, Ben Beuchler wrote:
> find /Maildir/ -mtime 90 -print |xargs mv /somewhere/else
> tar czvf mail.tgz /somewhere/else
Oops. Of course, there should be a "+" in front of that 90...
find /Maildir/ -mtime +90 -print |xargs mv /somewhere/else
tar czvf mail.
On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 01:42:21PM +0100, Slider wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am trying to create a small Sun Solaris 5.7 development server! I am
> having trouble creating the Maildir for the user when I am adding him!
>
> Command thus #> useradd -s /bin/true -d /usr/home/user -m user
>
> Unfo
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Maildir Creation
On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 01:42:21PM +0100, Slider wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am trying to create a small Sun Solaris 5.7 development server! I am
> having trouble creating the Maildir for the user when I am adding him!
>
> Co
"Slider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am trying to create a small Sun Solaris 5.7 development server!
You've got your work cut out, then, because there's no such thing as
"Solaris 5.7". There's SunOS 5.7, and there's Solaris 7, but no
Solaris 5.7.
Yes, this is confusing...that's why I'm bother
Slider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks for that! Please excuse my inexperience but how would I just create
> the Maildir manually?
>
> I have tried /var/qmail/bin/maildirmake but it still does not seem to work!
Did you give it any arguments? Try `man maildirmake`.
Charles
--
--
On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 01:42:21PM +0100, Slider wrote:
> I am trying to create a small Sun Solaris 5.7 development server! I am
> having trouble creating the Maildir for the user when I am adding him!
>
> Command thus #> useradd -s /bin/true -d /usr/home/user -m user
>
> Unfortunately this is n
On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:27:17 -0300, Luis Bezerra wrote:
> Unable to open local messages
>
> I verified in my server that the messages are located in in the
> Maildir/cur directory.
What MUA (mail reader) are you using? Most likely it doesn't
understand the Maildir method for storing emails.
I notice that your next message is requesting instructions on how to
un-subscribe to the list. Kind of weird to ask detailed questions
like this and then disappear. Makes me wonder what motivated you to
ask the questions. However, just in case you're serious
> Here's the skinny:
>
> I wan
On Wednesday 11 October 2000 02:13, Al Sparks wrote:
> > A: Created a nifty program so that when I try to access a mailbox
> > file, it's actually interfaced so that I'm accessing my maildir
> > B: Written a converter that I can run on the fly.
> > C: Figured out some other solution to this prob
--- Casey Allen Shobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 October 2000 02:13, Al Sparks wrote:
> > A POP3 and IMAP server will play nice with each other in the sense
> > that they will mostly ignore each other. Since Courier IMAP also uses
> > some sort of index file for each folder inc
> Al Sparks writes:
AS> I notice that your next message is requesting instructions on how
AS> to un-subscribe to the list. Kind of weird to ask detailed
AS> questions like this and then disappear. Makes me wonder what
AS> motivated you to ask the questions.
Why don't you shelve you
--- Sten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Al Sparks writes:
>
> AS> I notice that your next message is requesting instructions on how
> AS> to un-subscribe to the list. Kind of weird to ask detailed
> AS> questions like this and then disappear. Makes me wonder what
> AS> motivated you to ask
At 9:41 PM +0200 4/17/00, quanta wrote:
>Sorry I have one more question, I am using The Maildir format to make it
>works with qmail-pop3d
>but I can't find any client like pine or elm to work with it, do I have to
>patch something??
Try mutt. http://www.mutt.org.
>
>THX
>Mikael
--
--
Paul J.
> >Sorry I have one more question, I am using The Maildir format to make it
> >works with qmail-pop3d
> >but I can't find any client like pine or elm to work with it, do I have
to
> >patch something??
>
> Try mutt. http://www.mutt.org.
Any pop3 mail client should work fine with the qmail-pop3
"quanta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Sorry I have one more question, I am using The Maildir format to make it
>works with qmail-pop3d
>but I can't find any client like pine or elm to work with it, do I have to
>patch something??
Accessed via POP, the native mailbox format is tranparent and
irrel
quanta wrote:
> Sorry I have one more question, I am using The Maildir format to make it
> works with qmail-pop3d
> but I can't find any client like pine or elm to work with it, do I have to
pop3 clients don't have to know anything about maildir. I use netscape pop3
client and it just work fine.
Z <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> how do io make sure that the messages are going to the correct place.
> i keep getting errors like:
>
> starting delivery 52: msg 869324 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] status:
> local 4/10 remote 0/20 delivery 49: deferral:
> Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._(#4.2.1)/
> s
Manfred Bartz wrote:
>
> Z <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I want it send to ~/Mailbox
>
> your ~/.qmail file must contain ``./Mailbox'' (relative to the user's
> home directory, or the full path, e.g. ``/home/username/Mailbox''.
I think it's
./Mailbox/
(i.e. with the trailing slash)
Eri
On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 04:24:47PM -0700, Eric Cox wrote:
> > your ~/.qmail file must contain ``./Mailbox'' (relative to the user's
> > home directory, or the full path, e.g. ``/home/username/Mailbox''.
>
> I think it's
>
> ./Mailbox/
>
> (i.e. with the trailing slash)
I believe if you incl
On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 04:24:47PM -0700, Eric Cox wrote:
> Manfred Bartz wrote:
> >
> > Z <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > I want it send to ~/Mailbox
> >
> > your ~/.qmail file must contain ``./Mailbox'' (relative to the user's
> > home directory, or the full path, e.g. ``/home/username/Ma
Ben Beuchler wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 04:24:47PM -0700, Eric Cox wrote:
>
> > > your ~/.qmail file must contain ``./Mailbox'' (relative to the user's
> > > home directory, or the full path, e.g. ``/home/username/Mailbox''.
> >
> > I think it's
> >
> > ./Mailbox/
> >
> > (i.e. with the
On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 09:59:55AM -0500, Tony Campisi wrote:
> At 16:21 00/06/17 -0600, you wrote:
> > > can u help me setting up Maildir
> > > here iam not able to setup Maildir
> > Easy, correct method:
> > /var/qmail/bin/maildirmake {username}
>
> Don't forget to "su" to the user before you
: Try
: su - al.koch
: instead of
: su al.koch
---
That worked for me Peter. Thank you. One more question. My users folders (on the
backup machine I'm testing this on) are located under /usr/home. Is this correct or
should they be under /home? I seem to have read this somewhere. I initially crea
On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 09:59:55AM -0500, Tony Campisi wrote:
> At 16:21 00/06/17 -0600, you wrote:
> > > can u help me setting up Maildir
> > > here iam not able to setup Maildir
> > Easy, correct method:
> > /var/qmail/bin/maildirmake {username}
>
> Don't forget to "su" to the user before you
: The name of the maildir should not be {username}; it should be Maildir.
-
Please forgive my ignorance but I've only been using Linux for 3 months and qmail for
just a few days..
After I "su - username"
do I "/var/qmail/bin/maildirmake {username}"
or "/var/qmail/bin/maildirmake maildir" ?
On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 01:59:53PM -0500, Tony Campisi wrote:
> : The name of the maildir should not be {username}; it should be Maildir.
> -
> Please forgive my ignorance but I've only been using Linux for 3 months and
> qmail for just a few days..
> After I "su - username"
> do I "/var/qma
"Tony Campisi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: The name of the maildir should not be {username}; it should be Maildir.
>-
>Please forgive my ignorance but I've only been using Linux for 3
>months and qmail for just a few days..
>After I "su - username"
>do I "/var/qmail/bin/maildirmake {usern
>
> I did maildirmake $HOME/Maildir and echo ./Maildir > ~.qmail
>
Your mistake is right here... "./Maildir", as far as qmail is concerned, is a _file_
named "Maildir". You need to add a slash to the end... like:
echo ./Maildir/ > ~.qmail
RC
> When testing sending mail to this account qmai
Ricardo Cerqueira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I did maildirmake $HOME/Maildir and echo ./Maildir > ~.qmail
>
>Your mistake is right here... "./Maildir", as far as qmail is
>concerned, is a _file_ named "Maildir". You need to add a slash to
>the end... like:
>
>echo ./Maildir/ > ~.qmail
Except,
Subba Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Sat, 27 Nov 1999:
> I have opted to use Maildir format over mbox. The MDA in use is maildrop.
> Except for the inbox/spool directory, all the folders that maildrop uses
> are mbox format. The folders maildrop uses are in ~/Mail while the incoming
> spool is ~
Kristina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Do I need a .qmail file to configure the maildir format.
No. If you make "./Maildir/" the default delivery instruction, then
it will work even if nobody has a .qmail file.
BUT! qmail can _deliver to_ a maildir. It can't _create_ a maildir.
For existing us
On Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 05:54:51PM +1100, Kevin Waterson wrote:
> In the qmail/doc/INSTALL.maildir it says to edit /var/qmail/rc
> and replace ./Mailbox with ./Maildir/
> and "by creating a maildir in the new-user template directory"
> Where is this directory?
It's usually /usr/share/skel or /et
On Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 05:54:51PM +1100, Kevin Waterson wrote:
I noticed something weird in your headers:
> Received: (qmail 7501 invoked by uid 1002); 14 Jan 2000 07:47:54 -
> Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm
> Precedence: bulk
> Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTE
Anand Buddhdev writes:
> > Received: from unknown (HELO oceania.net) (@203.41.132.67)
>
>
> Normally, qmail-smtpd records the IP address of the client in that
> field. Why does yours have an '@' in it?
They probably have an ident
On Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 08:27:12AM -0500, Russell Nelson wrote:
> > > Received: from unknown (HELO oceania.net) (@203.41.132.67)
> >
> > Normally, qmail-smtpd records the IP address of the client in that
> > field. Why does yours have an '@' in it?
>
> They probably have an ident server whi
> In the qmail/doc/INSTALL.maildir it says to edit /var/qmail/rc
Apparently, you did not believe me when in an earlier message I told
you that /var/qmail/rc is *not* used by the qmail-run scripts. Please
take a look at
ftp://moni.msci.memphis.edu/pub/qmail-run/README.qmail-run
You will see, a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>From libc-client4.7 documentation:
>--strip--
> The Maildir format used by qmail has all of the performance
>disadvantages of mh noted above, with the additional problem that the
>files are renamed in order to change their status so you end up
>having to rescan the
Ondrej Surý <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Fri, 14 Jan 2000:
> From libc-client4.7 documentation:
> --strip--
> The Maildir format used by qmail has all of the performance
> disadvantages of mh noted above, with the additional problem
> Could someone comment this?
Well, I can say something
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Kristina wrote:
> [...]
> Do I need a .qmail file to configure the maildir format. If so, how do I
> configure it. Please let me know.
Yes. Just tell qmail where to put incoming mail's (echo "./Maildir/" >
.qmail).
Anyway, to create Maildir/new, Maildir/cur, Maildir/tmp fil
=?iso-8859-2?Q?Ond=F8ej=20Sur=FD?= writes:
> Could someone comment this?
Yeah. Mark Crispin doesn't like Dan Bernstein; therefore anything Dan
Bernstein does has technical problems which "don't scale" and are "a
support nightmare." Mark doesn't want to hear what I have to say
about IMAP (whic
Mikko Hänninen writes:
> But, the commentary completely misses the good points and the purpose
> of Maildirs: that they're ideal for incoming mail delivery, especially
> when the folder is accesses over NFS (whether "access" delivery or
> reading or both). Maildir format is not something you
Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Right, and any scalable email system is going to use NFS. Therefore
> the question in my mind is not "What should be used for large folders
> instead of Maildirs?" but instead "What must be done to make Maildirs
> more efficient"? One way to do that
Anand Buddhdev wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 05:54:51PM +1100, Kevin Waterson wrote:
>
> I noticed something weird in your headers:
>
>
> --
> See complete headers for more infl
I am moving our mail behind a firewall and our local network.
The IP of the machine I am sending from is 192.168.0.
On Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 02:21:47PM -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote:
> Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Right, and any scalable email system is going to use NFS. Therefore
> > the question in my mind is not "What should be used for large folders
> > instead of Maildirs?" but instead
Mate Wierdl wrote:
>
>This is so important that I repeat it: if you want to change where
>and how qmail delivers local mail, you need to change
>/var/qmail/defaultdelivery/rc, and not /var/qmail/rc. In this
>respect, qmail-run's setup is different from the default; the
>scrip
Charles Cazabon writes:
> Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Right, and any scalable email system is going to use NFS. Therefore
> > the question in my mind is not "What should be used for large folders
> > instead of Maildirs?" but instead "What must be done to make Maildirs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Note that I don't really see the benefit in multiple cur-directories, apart
> from the performance advantages on sub-optimal [most] filesystems, for which
> same reason the queue directories are split up.
Right, me neither.
> | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself i
Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Right, and any scalable email system is going to use NFS.
Why do you think that?
My experience is quite the contrary, namely that delivering to *any*
shared file system, whether it be NFS or AFS, is fundamentally less
reliable and harder to maintain
Russ Allbery writes:
> Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Right, and any scalable email system is going to use NFS.
>
> Why do you think that?
Because every such installation I've ever seen has used NFS. I'm not
talking about what's good, or what's right. I'm talking about
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Ondøej Surý wrote:
> >From libc-client4.7 documentation:
> --strip--
> The Maildir format used by qmail has all of the performance
> disadvantages of mh noted above, with the additional problem that
> the
> files are renamed in order to change their status so you end up
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Russell Nelson wrote:
> =?iso-8859-2?Q?Ond=F8ej=20Sur=FD?= writes:
>
> > Could someone comment this?
>
> Yeah. Mark Crispin doesn't like Dan Bernstein; therefore anything Dan
> Bernstein does has technical problems which "don't scale" and are "a
> support nightmare." Mar
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Russell Nelson wrote:
> Mikko Hänninen writes:
> > But, the commentary completely misses the good points and the purpose
> > of Maildirs: that they're ideal for incoming mail delivery, especially
> > when the folder is accesses over NFS (whether "access" delivery or
> > r
On Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 09:36:03PM -0500, Sam wrote:
> caches the headers by itself. It seems that the original IMAP
> implementation by uwimap was so piss-poor performance-wise, that pretty
> much all IMAP clients either do some form of caching themselves, or are
> very carefull not to issue any
Bruce Guenter writes:
> - message state storage (read, replied to, forwarded, flagged, etc.)
> seperate from content delivery (a "Status:" header line)
I wonder if that couldn't be handled by the Maildir code writing
Status: XXX as the very first line in each message? Then, you
could cha
On Sat, Jan 15, 2000 at 10:57:00PM -0500, Russell Nelson wrote:
> I wonder if that couldn't be handled by the Maildir code writing
> Status: XXX as the very first line in each message? Then, you
> could change the status by opening the message file, read in the first
> N bytes, modify one o
On Sat, Jan 15, 2000 at 10:57:00PM -0500, Russell Nelson wrote:
> Bruce Guenter writes:
> > - message state storage (read, replied to, forwarded, flagged, etc.)
> > seperate from content delivery (a "Status:" header line)
>
> I wonder if that couldn't be handled by the Maildir code writing
>
Actually, using ssh would obviate the need for an ftp-like second connection
protocol-mess for async notification. I think you could just forward 2
connections over the already-established link. So all connections from a
particular client would be guranteed to land on the same server, despite an
On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 12:09:13AM -0600, Bruce Guenter wrote:
> Good thought, especially with the tunneling options, but unless things
> have changed, SSH still requires shell access -- something that should
> not be required for mailbox access.
Not really. It only spawns a shell because sshd'
On Sat, Jan 15, 2000 at 10:26:22PM -0800, Peter C. Norton wrote:
> Not really. It only spawns a shell because sshd's usual procedure is to
> invoke /bin/login as it's last action (step 10 in the sshd(8) version 1 man
Sorry, I meant "emulate /bin/login" and asit's last step start a shell.
> pag
On Sat, Jan 15, 2000 at 10:26:22PM -0800, Peter C. Norton wrote:
> > Good thought, especially with the tunneling options, but unless things
> > have changed, SSH still requires shell access -- something that should
> > not be required for mailbox access.
>
> Not really. It only spawns a shell be
On Sat, Jan 15, 2000 at 09:41:48AM -0600, Tim Tsai wrote:
> Russ, what is your definition of a "large" installation? 10k, 100k, 1m
> users? Just exactly how many lighter-weight servers is practical to
> manage and upkeep before it's cheaper to buy NetApp's?
As someone who has purchased and ma
Bruce Guenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote:
> First place to start is to figure out what is actually necessary. In a
> lot of cases, POP3 with a few extensions should be perfectly adequate,
> but it is necessary to know what the needs actually are.
I don't think it's a good idea to overload
What do you guys do for backup's? Do you put two NIC cards in each
server and maintain a separate network for that?
Thanks, from a guy that's about to take that big plunge into a scalable
mail design.
Tim
On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 02:56:59AM -0800, Tracy R Reed wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 15, 200
> > What do you guys do for backup's? Do you put two NIC cards in each
> > server and maintain a separate network for that?
>
> Do you have *a lot* of pc-hardware around? What failed, last time? And
> before that?
No, that wasn't why I asked. The main reason for two NIC's is to keep
the ba
On Sat, 15 Jan 2000, Bruce Guenter wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2000 at 01:20:05AM -0500, Russell Nelson wrote:
> > What about asynchronous commands and
> > notifications? I'd nuke 'em, myself.
>
> Which of course begs the question about what kinds of events are really
> necessary for a mailbox a
1 - 100 of 365 matches
Mail list logo
