Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-11 Thread Chris
I used to run this, but I moved to qmailtoaster as Matt got more Linus-like in his interactions with users. On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 6:05 AM Remo Mattei wrote: > here is one that I had on my watch list in git > > https://github.com/msimerson/Mail-Toaster-6 > > > > On Dec 11, 2020, at 8:36 AM,

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-11 Thread Chris
You can build nearly anything you want and deploy to AWS. I use VMWare on my mac, build my own local VMs, export to OVA, and convert to AMI. Not point-and-click but certainly do-able. I had to build my own CentOS 8 AMI because CentOS didn't have an official one, and I didn't trust any of the

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-11 Thread Eric Broch
One system I'd not thought of is openSUSE...RPM based and all. I'll give that a try. FWIW, CentOS 5 (last *-toaster designation) supported QMT Fedora installs. I think people are wondering if CentOS is going away altogether. On 12/11/2020 1:13 PM, CarlC Internet Services Service Desk wrote:

RE: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-11 Thread CarlC Internet Services Service Desk
That's why I went in business for myself... Except I don't really advertise, I pick who I want for clients. This way, I can setup ANY type of VM I want, with ANY Linux distro I want to support. And as to going out of business in 3 days, that's the old tactic of "I got your money, now what ya

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-11 Thread Jaime Lerner
Have to agree with this! Mine is on a Digital Ocean droplet. :)  No problems whatsoever. From: Gary Bowling Organization: GBCO Reply-To: Date: Friday, December 11, 2020 at 10:16 AM To: Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS? Yes, they give you an OS

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-11 Thread Angus McIntyre
Ditto. $20 for a basic server, $5 for backup. I might have chosen a smaller server (I don't have as many users as Gary) but someone here observed -- and I have found -- that ClamAV tends to crash periodically if you have less than about 4GB. The 4GB Linode is therefore probably the minimum 

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-11 Thread Gary Bowling
I'm almost embarrassed to say that I'm running mine on a $25/month server. I have about 1000 users over 7 domains. Here's a price list from Linode, but you can also customize it. https://www.linode.com/pricing/ gary

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-11 Thread Remo Mattei
here is one that I had on my watch list in git https://github.com/msimerson/Mail-Toaster-6 > On Dec 11, 2020, at 8:36 AM, Tahnan Al Anas wrote: > > Hi Eric, > > I am not sure what this thread is about, but I heard FreeBSD, have you > checked

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-11 Thread qmail
Hi Remo / all Found this : https://www.cyberciti.biz/linux-news/centos-linux-reborn-as-rocky-linux-enterprise-operating-system/ /Finn Den 10-12-2020 kl. 21:08 skrev Remo Mattei: what link did you use to get the Rocky Linux ISO? I just did a quick search didn’t see much of an ISO. Thanks

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-11 Thread Tahnan Al Anas
Hi Eric, I am not sure what this thread is about, but I heard FreeBSD, have you checked https://www.xfiles.dk/guide-on-how-to-install-qmail-on-freebsd/? I once used that and it did work. And the guy is also my friend. -- -- Best Regards Muhammad Tahnan Al Anas On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 10:24

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-11 Thread Eric Broch
And, some humor... https://centos.rip On 12/11/2020 6:52 AM, Eric Broch wrote: This looks like good news: https://github.com/rocky-linux On another note: IBM bought/acquired

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-11 Thread Jeff Koch
Perhaps, as long as nothing related to the kernel or basic OS changed. And the updating would need to be tested. It would be bad if the server instance wouldn't boot. Then you'd be dead in the water.  I'd feel a little more confident using an OS/distribution supported by the cloud provider. We

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-11 Thread Eric Broch
What's the cost? On 12/11/2020 8:14 AM, Gary Bowling wrote: Yes, they give you an OS, with the amount of MEM/disk/processors/etc that you configure and purchase. Once you get that, you can log in with SSH and set up anything you like. There is also a console app from your account in case

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-11 Thread Eric Broch
From what the Rocky Linux developers say, that distro should be out by CentOS 8 end-of-life, 12/31/2021. It should be elementary to change repos, right? On 12/11/2020 8:10 AM, Jeff Koch wrote: We have a similar situation with AWS.   Jeff On 12/11/2020 9:45 AM, Gary Bowling wrote: One

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-11 Thread Gary Bowling
Yes, they give you an OS, with the amount of MEM/disk/processors/etc that you configure and purchase. Once you get that, you can log in with SSH and set up anything you like. There is also a console app from your account in case you have trouble getting

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-11 Thread Jeff Koch
We have a similar situation with AWS.   Jeff On 12/11/2020 9:45 AM, Gary Bowling wrote: One issue I have is that my toaster is hosted on a virtual machine at Linode. Others may use virtual solutions as well. These services offer virtual machines of several popular flavors, but you have

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-11 Thread Eric Broch
Do they allow you to control the repos from which you update? If so there should not be problem if Rocky is done by then. On 12/11/2020 7:45 AM, Gary Bowling wrote: One issue I have is that my toaster is hosted on a virtual machine at Linode. Others may use virtual solutions as well.

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-11 Thread Gary Bowling
One issue I have is that my toaster is hosted on a virtual machine at Linode. Others may use virtual solutions as well. These services offer virtual machines of several popular flavors, but you have to use whatever they offer. Linode offers

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-11 Thread Eric Broch
This looks like good news: https://github.com/rocky-linux On another note: IBM bought/acquired Red Hat. On 12/10/2020 8:35 AM, Eric Broch wrote: /Fellow QMT

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-10 Thread Tony White
Hi Eric,   Not fully operational yet. Still working from a page I found last week. Everything seems to install but I want to compare it to QMT after it is operational. Again, I will keep the list updated. best wishes Tony White On 11/12/20 8:42 am, Eric Broch wrote: Do you have a

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-10 Thread Tony White
Hi Eric,   I am also going to try devuan this weekend with the alien conversion of your .rpm to .deb. I will keep the list updated. Again no systemd. best wishes Tony White On 11/12/20 2:35 am, Eric Broch wrote: /Fellow QMT enthusiasts: / /I became concerned about the future of CentOS a

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-10 Thread Eric Broch
Do you have a qmailtoaster version installed on FreeBSD? On 12/10/2020 2:41 PM, Tony White wrote: Hi Eric,   As to debian you can install the software called alien. This will convert .rpm to .deb at the command line. I have used alien and it does convert your packages properly. Thee only items

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-10 Thread Tony White
Hi Eric,   As to debian you can install the software called alien. This will convert .rpm to .deb at the command line. I have used alien and it does convert your packages properly. Thee only items to check would be scripting.   I will keep plodding on with my FreeBSD as it appears to stable and

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-10 Thread Remo Mattei
what link did you use to get the Rocky Linux ISO? I just did a quick search didn’t see much of an ISO. Thanks > On Dec 10, 2020, at 8:29 AM, Havrla wrote: > > Helooo, > > no panic, no Titanic.Wait, no fast > > Yesterday flood, today sun. > > Yesterday CentOS, today Rocky Linux.

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-10 Thread Craig McLaughlin
Hi Eric, I think the announcement caught a lot of us by surprise - maybe I/we don't have the same paranoia you do.  From where I sit, I see more and more orgs moving toward Ubuntu for services vs FreeBSD / etc.  I'd be happy to try to scrape some rust off my brain and assist with package

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-10 Thread Havrla
Helooo, no panic, no Titanic.    Wait, no fast Yesterday flood, today sun. Yesterday CentOS, today Rocky Linux. What will happen tomorrow? We will wait and be wiser. Havrla Dne 9.12.2020 v 12:50 Angus McIntyre napsal(a): Does anyone have any thoughts on the likely future of

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-10 Thread Leonardo
Doesn't FreebsdBrasil ProApps suite use Qmail Toaster at FreeBSD? I haven't use it so I'm not sure but seems like that is Qmail Toaster: https://proapps.com.br/apps/qmt Em 2020-12-10 12:35, Eric Broch escreveu: > Fellow QMT enthusiasts: > > _I became concerned about the future of CentOS a

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-10 Thread remo
Wow this is not a great news about CentOS. I was at Red Hat when it was acquired and all my servers are running CentOS. Well for qmailtoater is to look at what Roberto has done since his site uses source and builds on Ubuntu but I am not that trilled to build that way even though I had one

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-10 Thread Eric Broch
/Fellow QMT enthusiasts: / /I became concerned about the future of CentOS a week or so ago ///(not a premonition just my natural paranoia) /prior to their announcement two days back and visited centos.org to relieve my fears. I was confident at that point that having gotten QMT/CentOS 8 ready

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-09 Thread Tony White
Hi all,   Anyone interested in BSD either Free or Open? I am starting to work on building a FreeBSD version of this for myself. Would like to know if anyone else is interested. best wishes Tony White On 10/12/20 6:49 am, Unai Rodriguez wrote: Debian! -- unai On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, at 8:20

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-09 Thread Unai Rodriguez
Debian! -- unai On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, at 8:20 PM, Boheme wrote: > I’ve been meaning to learn to compile all the source for Ubuntu for a > while. This may be the kick in the pants I needed. > > -Sent from my Pip-Boy 3000 > > > On 10/12/2020, at 12:50 AM, Angus McIntyre wrote: > > > > Does

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-09 Thread Boheme
I’ve been meaning to learn to compile all the source for Ubuntu for a while. This may be the kick in the pants I needed. -Sent from my Pip-Boy 3000 > On 10/12/2020, at 12:50 AM, Angus McIntyre wrote: > > Does anyone have any thoughts on the likely future of qmailtoaster given the > new

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-09 Thread Gary Bowling
Maybe it's time to move to a new distribution, looks like we have at least until 2024 to do it. Maybe arch linux? Or is there something similar to the original CentOS project? Gary On 12/9/2020 11:29 AM,

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-09 Thread Jeff Koch
Sorry - I was looking at the RHEL life-cycle dates - but looking at the correct dates perhaps it's better to stay with CentOS 7 Jeff On 12/9/2020 11:07 AM, Eric Broch wrote: I thought that it said that CentOS 7 would be support through 2024 and 8 through 2021? On 12/9/2020 8:11 AM, Jeff

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-09 Thread Angus McIntyre
According to https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/faq-centos-stream-updates, "Updates for the CentOS Linux 8 distribution continue until December 31, 2021." Having just finally got a toaster working on CentOS 8, I'm not too happy about this. Angus Eric Broch wrote on 12/9/20 11:07 AM: I thought

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-09 Thread Eric Broch
I thought that it said that CentOS 7 would be support through 2024 and 8 through 2021? On 12/9/2020 8:11 AM, Jeff Koch wrote: It appears CentOS 8 will continue to be support through 2024 - but this is concerning news - Jeff On 12/9/2020 7:20 AM, Eric Broch wrote:

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-09 Thread Jeff Koch
It appears CentOS 8 will continue to be support through 2024 - but this is concerning news - Jeff On 12/9/2020 7:20 AM, Eric Broch wrote: https://www.change.org/p/centos-governing-board-do-not-destroy-centos-by-using-it-as-a-rhel-upstream On 12/9/2020 4:50 AM, Angus McIntyre wrote: Does

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-09 Thread Eric Broch
https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-and-centos-stream/ On 12/9/2020 4:50 AM, Angus McIntyre wrote: Does anyone have any thoughts on the likely future of qmailtoaster given the new plans for CentOS? (See https://centos.org/distro-faq/ for more details) I'd never actually heard of CentOS Stream

Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-09 Thread Eric Broch
https://www.change.org/p/centos-governing-board-do-not-destroy-centos-by-using-it-as-a-rhel-upstream On 12/9/2020 4:50 AM, Angus McIntyre wrote: Does anyone have any thoughts on the likely future of qmailtoaster given the new plans for CentOS? (See https://centos.org/distro-faq/ for more

[qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS?

2020-12-09 Thread Angus McIntyre
Does anyone have any thoughts on the likely future of qmailtoaster given the new plans for CentOS? (See https://centos.org/distro-faq/ for more details) I'd never actually heard of CentOS Stream before today, but having just painfully built a working toaster on top of CentOS 8, I'm a little