[qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-10 Thread Mike Canty
First of all, thanks to those who assisted me in installing the correct Perl modules for Spamassasin to operate correctly. I can now run "tail -f /var/log/qmail/spamd/current | tai64nlocal" and not see any errors. However, this just takes me back to my initial problem I presented to Jake Vickers

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-10 Thread Jake Vickers
Mike Canty wrote: First of all, thanks to those who assisted me in installing the correct Perl modules for Spamassasin to operate correctly. I can now run "tail -f /var/log/qmail/spamd/current | tai64nlocal" and not see any errors. However, this just takes me back to my initial problem I prese

RE: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-10 Thread Mike Canty
or is the "spambox1" part of the rebuild script to manage this? Any assistance would be appreciated. Cheers -Original Message- From: Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com] Sent: Monday, 10 August 2009 8:19 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoas

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-10 Thread Maxwell Smart
to > manage this? > > Any assistance would be appreciated. > > Cheers > > -Original Message- > From: Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com] > Sent: Monday, 10 August 2009 8:19 PM > To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com > Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster]

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-10 Thread Eric Shubert
o manage this? Any assistance would be appreciated. Cheers -Original Message- From: Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com] Sent: Monday, 10 August 2009 8:19 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still Mike Canty wrote: First of all, tha

RE: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-10 Thread Mike Canty
-lc simscan smtp qmlog - pattern simscan not found in any smtp logs I gather the last one is a real problem. Cheers -Original Message- From: news [mailto:n...@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Eric Shubert Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2009 10:59 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qm

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-10 Thread Maxwell Smart
n all users. Do I need to >> manually "tick" each, or is the "spambox1" part of the rebuild script to >> manage this? >> >> Any assistance would be appreciated. >> >> Cheers >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Jake

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-10 Thread Eric Shubert
t of the rebuild script to manage this? Any assistance would be appreciated. Cheers -Original Message- From: Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com] Sent: Monday, 10 August 2009 8:19 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still Mike Canty

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-10 Thread Eric Shubert
Mike Canty wrote: Eric, More than happy to provide the information you asked for. Please see below. [r...@myserv spamassassin]# cat /etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",DKSIGN="/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private" :allow,BADMIMETYPE="",BADLOADERTYPE="M",CHKUSER_RCPTLIM

RE: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-10 Thread Mike Canty
little while, until I worked it out. Thanks for your assistance and the others for their input. Cheers -Original Message- From: news [mailto:n...@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Eric Shubert Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2009 11:42 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailt

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Jake Vickers
Maxwell Smart wrote: OK, now I'm confused. Does this mean that if the box is not "ticked" that SPAM mail will make it to your POP3 inbox marked as SPAM? CJ All mail is scanned unless you create an exclusion in your tcp.smtp or other similar method to turn off spam scanning. The only thin

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Eric Shubert
Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: OK, now I'm confused. Does this mean that if the box is not "ticked" that SPAM mail will make it to your POP3 inbox marked as SPAM? CJ All mail is scanned unless you create an exclusion in your tcp.smtp or other similar method to turn off spam sc

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Maxwell Smart
So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: OK, now I'm confused. Does this mean that if the box is not "ticked" that SPAM mail will make it to your POP3 inbox marked as SPAM? CJ All mail is scanned unless you create an exclusion in you

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Jake Vickers
Maxwell Smart wrote: So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? If it scores above your threshold in simscan, then it goes to /dev/null Otherwise it goes to the user's Inbox. - Qmailtoaster is sponsore

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Jake Vickers
Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: OK, now I'm confused. Does this mean that if the box is not "ticked" that SPAM mail will make it to your POP3 inbox marked as SPAM? CJ All mail is scanned unless you create an exclusion in your tcp.smtp or other similar metho

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Maxwell Smart
I think just the clarification that it goes /dev/null whether it's checked or not. The pertinent information for me is it's not going to make it to the POP3 client regardless if it's ticked or not. CJ Jake Vickers wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: OK, now

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Eric Shubert
Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? If it scores above your threshold in simscan, then it goes to /dev/null I hate to nit pick, but to be more accurate I believe it's rejected as spam. In any case, the recipient can never see it.

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2009-08-11 Thread Maxwell Smart
So, if I am understanding this correctly. There is no way to filter it and have it make it to the POP3 Inbox marked as SPAM? Eric Shubert wrote: > Jake Vickers wrote: >> Maxwell Smart wrote: >>> So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? >>> >> >> If it scores above your threshold in si

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Eric Shubert
The spambox option simply moves stuff marked as spam to the spam folder. This option is really only appropriate for Imap/Squirrelmail, because once it's moved, POP3 can no longer see it. If you need to filter POP3 email, that has to be done by the client. Maxwell Smart wrote: So, if I am unde

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Jake Vickers
Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? If it scores above your threshold in simscan, then it goes to /dev/null I hate to nit pick, but to be more accurate I believe it's rejected as spam. In any case, the recipien

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Jake Vickers
Maxwell Smart wrote: So, if I am understanding this correctly. There is no way to filter it and have it make it to the POP3 Inbox marked as SPAM? What are you trying to accomplish? Email that comes in is scanned by Spamassassin. If it scores above the score you defined in /etc/mail/spamass

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Eric Shubert
Jake Vickers wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? If it scores above your threshold in simscan, then it goes to /dev/null I hate to nit pick, but to be more accurate I believe it's rejected as spam. In a

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Jake Vickers
Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? If it scores above your threshold in simscan, then it goes to /dev/null I hate to nit pick, but to be more accurate I believe it's r

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Aleksander Podsiadly
W dniu 11.08.2009 20:49, Eric Shubert pisze: Jake Vickers wrote: I'd really like to be clear on this, so I understand the inner workings. My understanding is that yes, the SMTP session remains open during the simscan phase. If the score is over the threshold in the simcontrol file (spam_hits=

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Maxwell Smart
Yes, but it gets moved to a "Spambox" that can only be accessed via webmail. I am asking if a "Spambox" can be created in your POP3 client (Thunderbird) instead of having to access it via webmail to see if anything of importance has been marked as SPAM and doesn't make it to my POP3 client. I und

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Maxwell Smart
OK, That's how I understood it works. This is what I was trying to clarify. Eric Shubert wrote: > The spambox option simply moves stuff marked as spam to the spam folder. > This option is really only appropriate for Imap/Squirrelmail, because > once it's moved, POP3 can no longer see it. > > If

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Jake Vickers
Maxwell Smart wrote: Yes, but it gets moved to a "Spambox" that can only be accessed via webmail. I am asking if a "Spambox" can be created in your POP3 client (Thunderbird) instead of having to access it via webmail to see if anything of importance has been marked as SPAM and doesn't make it to

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Maxwell Smart
Got it. I was able to set up Thunderbird as an IMAP client and it works perfectly including the Sent and SPAM folders. Are there advantages to one over the other? CJ Jake Vickers wrote: > Maxwell Smart wrote: >> Yes, but it gets moved to a "Spambox" that can only be accessed via >> webmail. I

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Eric Shubert
Jake Vickers wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? If it scores above your threshold in simscan, then it goes to /dev/null I hate to nit pick, but to be more accu

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2009-08-11 Thread Eric Shubert
IMAP is the future, POP3 is the past. ;) When you have your email on an IMAP-accessible server, you can access it with any IMAP-capable client from virtually anywhere. Do you need to share your email account between your desktop and notebook? No problem. Would you like to pull up your email on

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2009-08-11 Thread Maxwell Smart
After installing an IMAP account and a POP3 in Thunderbird for the same account I can totally see the benefits and how it works. CJ Eric Shubert wrote: > IMAP is the future, POP3 is the past. ;) > > When you have your email on an IMAP-accessible server, you can access it > with any IMAP-capable

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2009-08-11 Thread Maxwell Smart
Hey thanks for all your help. I have a much better understanding of the setup and the difference between IMAP and POP3. Using Thunderbird for IMAP was a snap and I can now view all folders on the server in my client including the SPAM folder. --

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Eric Shubert
Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: Hey thanks for all your help. I have a much better understanding of the setup and the difference between IMAP and POP3. Using Thunderbird for IMAP was a snap and I can now view all folders on the server in my client including the SPAM folder. Just

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Maxwell Smart
Thanks for the heads up on Outlook. I can see where it can be resource intensive on the server. I don't have enough clients for it to be an issue at the moment, other than I would have to increase their quota. Only one of my customers has requested it. I am certain the others don't even kno

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Jake Vickers
Eric Shubert wrote: It has to get a copy of the message to scan. It does not return a successful delivery command to the sending server until the scanning process is complete (the remote server thinks the receiving server it still receiving the message). If it fails any of the tests, a SM

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Jake Vickers
Maxwell Smart wrote: Hey thanks for all your help. I have a much better understanding of the setup and the difference between IMAP and POP3. Using Thunderbird for IMAP was a snap and I can now view all folders on the server in my client including the SPAM folder. Just remember that IMAP d