Introducing zombies and a reaper.
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On Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 15:17:51 -0700, Matt Simerson wrote:
> Introducing zombies and a reaper.
Cute names..
> Notice the bolded lines. Instead of rejecting the message early,
> plugins like dnsbl and karma can zombify it. To increase efficiency,
> other plugins detect the zombie state and sk
On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Steve Kemp wrote:
> On Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 15:17:51 -0700, Matt Simerson wrote:
>
>> Introducing zombies and a reaper.
>
> Cute names..
Thanks.
>> Notice the bolded lines. Instead of rejecting the message early,
>> plugins like dnsbl and karma can zombify it. To
On Fri Jun 01, 2012 at 18:40:04 -0700, Matt Simerson wrote:
> But reducing code and simplifying plugins is just as important. This
> implementation adds more control and flexibility to plugins without
> additional code. For example, now it's possible (without writing code)
> to configure all plugi
> Yup. Part of the motivation for this plugin was to short circuit all the
> intermediate plugins and handlers so I can feed the message to sa-learn
> and dspam. Until dspam is trained, that's a very important step in
> training it. But there's no gain in validating the HELO name, SPF, or
> Domain
> Yup. Part of the motivation for this plugin was to short circuit all the
> intermediate plugins and handlers so I can feed the message to sa-learn
> and dspam. Until dspam is trained, that's a very important step in
> training it. But there's no gain in validating the HELO name, SPF, or
> Domain
>> Why hasn't your rejected idea been worked into qpsmtpd yet?
>
> Because I came to view qpsmtpd in a different way than many
> do (many view it as a service with useful plugins which they
> can deploy, use, and enjoy). Instead I view it more as a
> framework for rejecting/processing/handlin
On Jun 2, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Jared Johnson wrote:
>> Yup. Part of the motivation for this plugin was to short circuit all the
>> intermediate plugins and handlers so I can feed the message to sa-learn
>> and dspam. Until dspam is trained, that's a very important step in
>> training it. But there'
On Jun 2, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Jared Johnson wrote:
>>> Why hasn't your rejected idea been worked into qpsmtpd yet?
>>
>> Because I came to view qpsmtpd in a different way than many
>> do (many view it as a service with useful plugins which they
>> can deploy, use, and enjoy). Instead I view it
https://github.com/smtpd/qpsmtpd/pull/24
Instead of zombies, undead, and a reaper, the plugin has been renamed
'naughty'.
NAME
naughty - dispose of naughty connections
BACKGROUND
Rather than immediately terminating naughty connections, plugins often
mark the connection
On 02.06.2012 23:23, Matt Simerson wrote:
On Jun 2, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Jared Johnson wrote:
Yup. Part of the motivation for this plugin was to short circuit all the
intermediate plugins and handlers so I can feed the message to sa-learn
and dspam. Until dspam is trained, that's a very important
On Jun 4, 2012, at 6:40 AM, Stevan Bajić wrote:
> On 02.06.2012 23:23, Matt Simerson wrote:
>> On Jun 2, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Jared Johnson wrote:
>>
Yup. Part of the motivation for this plugin was to short circuit all the
intermediate plugins and handlers so I can feed the message to sa
Bayes is a little bit of a black box to me, so I can't really quantify
just how useful this is, but I'd say it's greater than zero. Dspam even
treats headers in a special way to ensure that their usefulness is
maximized.
>>> Usefulness != gain. There may be some gain, but I'm
On 04.06.2012 21:09, Matt Simerson wrote:
On Jun 4, 2012, at 6:40 AM, Stevan Bajić wrote:
On 02.06.2012 23:23, Matt Simerson wrote:
On Jun 2, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Jared Johnson wrote:
Yup. Part of the motivation for this plugin was to short circuit all the
intermediate plugins and handlers so
On Jun 4, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Stevan Bajić wrote:
> On 04.06.2012 21:09, Matt Simerson wrote:
>> On Jun 4, 2012, at 6:40 AM, Stevan Bajić wrote:
>>>
>>> Care to explain little more to me what this is all about?
>
>> 49237 (data_post) dspam: training naughty as spam
>>
>> Overnight, dpsam's spam
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