Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-09 Thread Stephen Alexander
I actually did remove the card completely when I tested it on the onboard video (and reseated it after) but I will look into rasterops configuration, thanks for the tip! Cheers, Stephen On Sunday 09 May 2004 20:22, Tina Holm wrote: > At 19:09 -0500 09/05/04, Stephen Alexander wrote: > >I think

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-09 Thread Tina Holm
At 19:09 -0500 09/05/04, Stephen Alexander wrote: I think I am going to give up on this one... You should at least try reseating the graphics card. Had an old Radius card way back, that required holding the "t" key down to configure to the monitor and the Mac. Don't know if there's an obscure ke

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-09 Thread Stephen Alexander
I think I am going to give up on this one... I'm betting on the last one at this point. I'm going to see about trying it with my trusty old 12" monochrome, but beyond that I think it's a lost cause. I didn't try reseating RAM but I am going to guess that it's a dead logic board based on the fact

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-09 Thread John Kamimura
You're not off base. The reason I suggested the different Apple monitor is because some 3rd party monitor had special extensions that were needed for the monitor to display an image If you have another Apple monitor handy or the store has one then plug it into the built in video. Boot from the

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-09 Thread Stephen Alexander
Again, I'm rusty, but should I not at least get a blinking question mark icon if the OS/Drive is bad? And if the monitor is bad I would have expected a BIOS boot chime. Pls let me know if I'm off base. Cheers, Stephen On Sunday 09 May 2004 12:33, John Kamimura wrote: > I'm guessing that it is

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-09 Thread John Kamimura
I'm guessing that it is hard drive/OS problem if everything has checked out OK. Do you have a spare SCSI drive with a universal MacOS installed to take with you to try with the 840AV? Or better yet a bootable CD-ROM? Maybe an old copy of Norton Utilities... Since the SuperMac(? - can't remember

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-09 Thread Scott Holder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i run one as a server i am actually typing this on it it is my main web/email server as well as for ssh connections. anyways i just leave a keyboard plugged into it with a penny and a dime on the power key to make it turn on in case of power outages. it works marvelously

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-09 Thread Stephen Alexander
And then he read the email that said the KB's not an issue... On Sunday 09 May 2004 07:03, Stephen Alexander wrote: > Cables are all connected, the HD and PS fan spin no problem. There is no > boot noise and no video. I am going to follow up the previous suggestion > when I get a chance and attach

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-09 Thread Stephen Alexander
Cables are all connected, the HD and PS fan spin no problem. There is no boot noise and no video. I am going to follow up the previous suggestion when I get a chance and attach an ADB keyboard with the power button. Stephen PS it's almost definitely a good buy since it's labeled at $35 and I kn

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-08 Thread setient
it. On Sun, 9 May 2004, Scott Holder wrote: > Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 02:53:34 -0400 > From: Scott Holder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Quadlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Quadlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions > >

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-08 Thread Scott Holder
Ken wrote: - I believe the machine is one of those that "needs" the power switch on the keyboard to start it up. Ken It's not. I run one as a server without a keyboard or mouse attached, it starts up fine from the front button. Although I've about broken my button off the logic boar

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-08 Thread John Kamimura
Sounds like you were able to get the 840 started with the button on the front panel. Can you feel air being pushed out of the power supply fan? Can you hear the hard drive spin up? Yes - possibly the OS is hosed or the disk is damaged. No - HD could be unplugged or dead. Might want to poke arou

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-08 Thread macsonly
slaps hi s head that the 950 that needs a key. better get to bed before checking mouth for shoe size some more tonight. :>( charles Stephen Alexander wrote: > > Thanks for the tip, I will try again. I'm just dying to give my wife the > opportunity to kill me for bringing home another obsolete com

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-08 Thread macsonly
is the in the machine? iirc i believe the key has to be turned right position. Ken wrote: > > My Reply follows quote. On 08/05/2004 17:56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > >Hi y'all, new to the list. > > > >I have a quick question regarding a Q840AV I ran across in a local goodwill > >store. I haven't

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-08 Thread Ken
My Reply follows quote. On 08/05/2004 19:02 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >Thanks for the tip, I will try again. I'm just dying to give my wife the >opportunity to kill me for bringing home another obsolete computer (at least >it's better than the NetBSD-IIsi). > >Anyone got a particular resource wi

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-08 Thread Stephen Alexander
Thanks for the tip, I will try again. I'm just dying to give my wife the opportunity to kill me for bringing home another obsolete computer (at least it's better than the NetBSD-IIsi). Anyone got a particular resource with a collection of this kind of info that I should know about? Cheers, St

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-08 Thread Ken
My Reply follows quote. On 08/05/2004 17:56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >Hi y'all, new to the list. > >I have a quick question regarding a Q840AV I ran across in a local goodwill >store. I haven't bought it yet because of the following: I plugged it and >the >monitor (a rasterops w/rasterops nubu

[q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-08 Thread Stephen Alexander
Hi y'all, new to the list. I have a quick question regarding a Q840AV I ran across in a local goodwill store. I haven't bought it yet because of the following: I plugged it and the monitor (a rasterops w/rasterops nubus card) and turned everything on. It didn't boot, just gave me LEDs on monito

Re Quadra 840av

2003-08-14 Thread Adam Dunn
Hello there, Sounds like three possibilities. In order of probability : - (1) No system software othe hard drives. Try launching from CD and then load MacOS on one of the drives IF there is none present. (2) The PRAM battery is Caput! Get a new one (preferably NOT by ebay, they tend to be t

Re: Quadra 840AV

2003-08-12 Thread Sque
Ken wrote: Picked one of these today and brought it home to play with (for $5.00, why not?!). $5.00, why not indeed? :) Opened it up and found two hard drives, both unplugged. One has an Apple sticker, the other does not. The Apple drive is a Quantum ProDrive, 230MB. The other is a Seagate

Re: Quadra 840AV

2003-08-11 Thread Sque
Sque wrote: Ken wrote: Pulled logic board and reseated all RAM. Pulled dead PRAM battery, waited 15 min and installed good battery. Pulling the battery while the unit has a mains connection is a self defeating test. In some cases (ppc is my only experience so far) the mains and battery shoul

Quadra 840AV

2003-08-10 Thread Ken
Picked one of these today and brought it home to play with (for $5.00, why not?!). Opened it up and found two hard drives, both unplugged. One has an Apple sticker, the other does not. The Apple drive is a Quantum ProDrive, 230MB. The other is a Seagate Lightning of unknown capacity. Plugged th

Re: Quadra 840AV startup problem

2003-02-05 Thread Dan Palka
I've noticed that my G3 has begun to take a very long time to start as well. 5 minutes, even if I do a restart from the pull down menu. 5 minutes no matter what. and 5 minutes of just a gray screen, with nothing. Then it comes to a folder with a blinking question mark for about 20 seconds,

Re: Quadra 840AV startup problem

2003-02-05 Thread E McCann
No updates or anything lately? Has it been moved? I had (have) an 840 that did the same thing (sort of) - except it would sit for about 15-20 minutes, give a "crash" chime o' doom, then restart / start up normally after that. I recall replacing the PRAM, giving the cables a good re-attaching, a

Re: Quadra 840AV startup problem

2003-02-05 Thread Clark Martin
At 1:13 PM -0600 2/5/2003, debkmaillist wrote: >[cross-posted to the MacAV list] >Hi, >My mom has had a Quadra 840AV for about 4 years. It has worked fine >for her basic needs -- mostly email and AppleWorks, some Photoshop 3. >It has 56mb RAM, a 2gb HD, runs OSv8.1 >During t

Quadra 840AV startup problem

2003-02-05 Thread debkmaillist
[cross-posted to the MacAV list] Hi, My mom has had a Quadra 840AV for about 4 years. It has worked fine for her basic needs -- mostly email and AppleWorks, some Photoshop 3. It has 56mb RAM, a 2gb HD, runs OSv8.1 During the past few months, it has begun taking longer and longer to boot

Re: Quadra 840AV???

2003-01-15 Thread SimPanda
I've had in a long time. I was certain I'd irreparably damaged the motherboard somehow. > The problem of Nancy I guess is > getting a copy of a bootable CD or a diskette. > Luckily, I was able to get a set of original Quadra 840AV system disks on eBay, both the CD and the

Re: Quadra 840AV???

2003-01-15 Thread SimPanda
> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 00:45:13 -0800 > Subject: Re: Quadra 840AV > From: James S Jones > In-Reply-To: > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Itchy send finger syndrome strikes again. > > Since you're not getting a start up chime, but were when you found

Re: Quadra 840AV ???

2003-01-15 Thread SimPanda
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 07:17:41 -0800 (PST) > From: Mauricio Santana > Subject: Re: Quadra 840 AV??? > In-Reply-To: > > >There is no ROM or cache card on the board. I have > >tried starting up > >using only one piece of RAM. I must have tried about > >eight diffe

Re: Quadra 840AV????

2003-01-14 Thread Mark Benson
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 08:45AM, James S Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Itchy send finger syndrome strikes again. > >Since you're not getting a start up chime, but were when you found this >machine, I'd say your problems are in one (or more) of five areas: RAM, >VRAM, NuBus cards,

Re: Quadra 840AV????

2003-01-14 Thread Derek Morton
Nancy, What general area do you live in? Perhaps there is a list member near you who can render some hands-on assistance. Derek Chicago, IL area. -- Quadlist is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon Powe

Re: Quadra 840AV????

2003-01-14 Thread James S Jones
Itchy send finger syndrome strikes again. Since you're not getting a start up chime, but were when you found this machine, I'd say your problems are in one (or more) of five areas: RAM, VRAM, NuBus cards, the monitor you have attached to your 840, or the logic board settings. You can use any 7

Re: Quadra 840AV????

2003-01-14 Thread James S Jones
reliable. Recently I have been sticking with the Apple > monitor since I figure it would most likely have less potential for > "issues" with the Quadra 840AV. -- Quadlist is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter

Re: Quadra 840AV????

2003-01-13 Thread SimPanda
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 20:49:23 -0800 > Subject: Re: Quadra 840AV > From: James S Jones > In-Reply-To: > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > What sort of monitor to you have attached to it? > I have been working on it using two different monitors - a Nanao

Re: Quadra 840AV????

2003-01-13 Thread SimPanda
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 09:16:10 -0600 > Subject: Re: Quadra 840AV > From: "R.A. Cantrell" > Message-ID: > In-Reply-To: > > on 1/13/03 8:52 AM, Mark Benson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > We have already established that the problem does nhot go aw

Re: Quadra 840AV????

2003-01-13 Thread SimPanda
> From: "zhmmy harper" > Subject: Re: Quadra 840AV > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 08:18:49 -0600 > Message-ID: > > Nancy, > Two things to try. > > 1. Drives usually require a teeny "jumper" on the back to be plugged in in a > particular way.

Re: Quadra 840AV????

2003-01-13 Thread zhmmy harper
Yes, I know. But maybe she didn't try it. Original Message Follows From: Mark Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) Subject: Re: Quadra 840AV Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 14:52:07 + On Monda

Re: Quadra 840AV????

2003-01-13 Thread R.A. Cantrell
on 1/13/03 8:52 AM, Mark Benson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > We have already established that the problem does nhot go away if she > completely disconnects all the internal SCSI devices. The above is, although > accurate, totally academic. Try this with only one ramstick firmly seated and no scs

Re: Quadra 840AV????

2003-01-13 Thread zhmmy harper
TED]> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) Subject: Re: Quadra 840AV Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 23:26:02 + I tried disconnecting the scsi cable from the motherboard, but still got the same blank gray screen with the cursor up in the corner.

Re: Quadra 840AV????

2003-01-13 Thread Mark Benson
On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 02:18PM, zhmmy harper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Nancy, >Two things to try. > >1. Drives usually require a teeny "jumper" on the back to be plugged in in a >particular way. Check with the mfr for proper configuration. > >2. After that is correct, start up your

Re: Quadra 840AV????

2003-01-13 Thread zhmmy harper
TED]> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) Subject: Re: Quadra 840AV Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 23:26:02 + I tried disconnecting the scsi cable from the motherboard, but still got the same blank gray screen with the cursor up in the corner.

Re: Quadra 840AV????

2003-01-12 Thread James S Jones
What sort of monitor to you have attached to it? Has it ever had a NuBus video card in it? Have you tried starting it up with a TV monitor connected to the RCA or S-Video jacks? How about toggling from TV to monitor (, I think). Did you replace the PRAM battery? On Sunday, January 12, 2003, at

Re: Quadra 840AV????

2003-01-12 Thread SimPanda
I tried disconnecting the scsi cable from the motherboard, but still got the same blank gray screen with the cursor up in the corner. No flashing question mark, I'm sad to say. I really thought this may have been the problem since this began when I tried installing a 9 gig Barracuda. At this point,

Re: Quadra 840AV????

2003-01-12 Thread Mark Benson
On Sunday, Jan 12, 2003, at 00:34 Europe/London, SimPanda wrote: > Hi, it's me again - the one with the Quadra 840AV that has the gray > screen with nothing but the cursor up in the left upper corner. My 840av has been to hell and back a few times,. It's had more hard disks

Re: Quadra 840AV????

2003-01-11 Thread Scott Holder
At 12:34 AM 1/12/2003 +, you wrote: >Hi, it's me again - the one with the Quadra 840AV that has the gray >screen with nothing but the cursor up in the left upper corner. I've had a couple Macs do this when I accidently plug the SCSI cable into the mobo or HD upside down. Fir

Re: Quadra 840AV????

2003-01-11 Thread Sque
SimPanda wrote: >Hi, it's me again - the one with the Quadra 840AV that has the gray >screen with nothing but the cursor up in the left upper corner. > Probably a real long shot but have you tried disconnecting the scsi cable from the mother board and then trying to boot f

Quadra 840AV????

2003-01-11 Thread SimPanda
Hi, it's me again - the one with the Quadra 840AV that has the gray screen with nothing but the cursor up in the left upper corner. When I've had the chance, I've taken the experienced advice of the people on this forum, and have been trying various RAM cards in one slot at a tim

Re: Is my poor Quadra 840AV dead?

2002-12-29 Thread E McCann
Sounds like something I had going on with one of mine... even tried it with one "known good" memory module that turned out to be not-so-good, and was causing the problem (though it would sit there for half an hour, finally give the not-quite-chimes-crash, and I could reboot and use it...) Try o

Re: Is my poor Quadra 840AV dead?

2002-12-29 Thread Clark Martin
At 11:52 PM + 12/28/2002, SimPanda wrote: >I have a Quadra 840AV that I found one day on my way home from work. I >brought it home, hooked it up to my monitor and keyboard, and found it >worked just fine. I decided to do a few upgrades on it by adding memory >and filling the vram

Is my poor Quadra 840AV dead?

2002-12-28 Thread SimPanda
I have a Quadra 840AV that I found one day on my way home from work. I brought it home, hooked it up to my monitor and keyboard, and found it worked just fine. I decided to do a few upgrades on it by adding memory and filling the vram slots. Since then I can not get it to start up again. When I

Re: Quadra 840av problems

2002-11-20 Thread Megalonyx
<< Forgot I left one 840 on while I surfed for info. All of a sudden... eight "note" set, ending with a raspberry(ish) sound... Turn off, on, and it boots. RAM? (this is the one I *didn't* take completely apart.) >> I was having similar problems with my 840AV. On a cold boot, the same unique

Re: Quadra 840av Movies

2002-08-16 Thread the pickle
At 14:29 -0700 on 16/08/02, John Kocijanski wrote: >Hello. I've been using my Quadra 840av to capture >some video clips with the Apple Video Player. It >works well. I transferred the clips to an iMac >ruinning OS 9.2.2 and a beige G3 running OS 8.6. The >clips pl

Re: Quadra 840av Movies

2002-08-16 Thread Ed Murphy
--- John Kocijanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello. I've been using my Quadra 840av to capture > some video clips with the Apple Video Player. It > works well. I transferred the clips to an iMac > ruinning OS 9.2.2 and a beige G3 running OS 8.6. The > cl

Re: Quadra 840av Movies

2002-08-16 Thread Kyle Kinsey
>Hello. I've been using my Quadra 840av to capture >some video clips with the Apple Video Player. It >works well. I transferred the clips to an iMac >ruinning OS 9.2.2 and a beige G3 running OS 8.6. The >clips play well on the newer Quicktime player. I >tried to use

Re: Quadra 840av Movies

2002-08-16 Thread Kyle Kinsey
>Hello. I've been using my Quadra 840av to capture >some video clips with the Apple Video Player. It >works well. I transferred the clips to an iMac >ruinning OS 9.2.2 and a beige G3 running OS 8.6. The >clips play well on the newer Quicktime player. I >tried to use

Quadra 840av Movies

2002-08-16 Thread John Kocijanski
Hello. I've been using my Quadra 840av to capture some video clips with the Apple Video Player. It works well. I transferred the clips to an iMac ruinning OS 9.2.2 and a beige G3 running OS 8.6. The clips play well on the newer Quicktime player. I tried to use them on a PC running XP

Re: 64 MB SIMMs in a Quadra 840av

2002-05-12 Thread Mark Benson
>I looked through the old messages and saw that Mark Benson was going to be >trying this out, but I don't see if we ever learned the answer, so here >goes: > >Has anyone successfully used 64 MB SIMMs in a Quadra 840av? If so, what were >the specs. > >Sorry if this i

64 MB SIMMs in a Quadra 840av

2002-05-11 Thread affirmed
I looked through the old messages and saw that Mark Benson was going to be trying this out, but I don't see if we ever learned the answer, so here goes: Has anyone successfully used 64 MB SIMMs in a Quadra 840av? If so, what were the specs. Sorry if this is redundant, but I looked for any

Quadra 840AV S-Video out

2002-04-15 Thread Scott Holder
Well, I finally got around to using my Quadra for some home video work, but I can't seem to figure out how to make the S-Video out actually do anything. There doesn't seem to be any cpl or other, though I'm probably missing something obvious ;) I recently lost my mailing list archives so I don

Re: Strange Boot Behavior Quadra 840AV

2001-07-06 Thread Bruce Guthrie
Very simple, until you had it fully energized it would still think you had the same problem. I can tell all there are codes in the August issue of Macaddit that if I can remember I'll post them later. Of the codes only one means you have a pos mac. So give me time to refind it and I will post.

Re: Strange Boot Behavior Quadra 840AV

2001-07-06 Thread Clark Martin
>Okay. I dismantled the 840, popped out all the RAM memory and cleaned >the tin contacts with alcohol; did the same for the VRAM, and replaced >the PRAM battery. Checked and double checked all connections on the mobo >and HDD while I was in there. > >On startup, I initially got the "sad Mac" "

Strange Boot Behavior Quadra 840AV

2001-07-06 Thread William Hatchell
Okay. I dismantled the 840, popped out all the RAM memory and cleaned the tin contacts with alcohol; did the same for the VRAM, and replaced the PRAM battery. Checked and double checked all connections on the mobo and HDD while I was in there. On startup, I initially got the "sad Mac" "au