When converting my 2+2 from cv to silvertop, I used a PSA cranckpulley to
make the waterpomp Vbelt driven.
A friend of mine turned the centre bagger on a lathe to fit perfectly on
the waterpomp boss with the four holes.
Cranckpulley was cvh, as Jim shows, but turned off 2mm to get in line as
cl
No worries John, hope I can assist.
I did have an auxiliary pulley to drive the water pump the right way on the
blacktop in the 2+2. But have just this winter installed the reverse
impeller, still need to sort the ribbed pulley.
Its not possible to put the CVH water pump on the blacktop as the wa
Hi Jim
I have seen cvh pump adaption methods on your website (excellent btw) and a
couple of others (slightly different) . It may well be an option to
consider as an alternative to reverse impeller.
John
On Sunday, May 10, 2020 at 1:47:27 PM UTC+1, Jim Hearne wrote:
>
> Another option that migh
Another option that might be looking at is converting the water pump to
a CVH one so it's driven off the timing belt.
Look for details on the ZVH conversion as this uses the CVH pump on a
Zetec block with an adaptor plate.
I know at least one silver top Zetec was fitted into a saloon with this
Hi Mark
Thanks for your input.
As you say when using the BC/IB5 box (as I plan to) the problem area is the
crank pulley end. The blacktop water pump runs in opposite direction to
silvertop (anti clockwise instead of clockwise) so a simple triangular belt
drive config (crank water pump alternator
Hello John,
I've fitted a silvertop to a saloon & a blacktop to a 2+2 both using the
standard XR2 BC gearbox (front starter motor) Neither I noticed seems to
move the gearbox over to the inner wing area.
I had spoken to someone who started to fit a complete Focus Zetec & 6 speed
box to a 2+2 and
Sorry, i don't know.
I would think it's fairly likely, Ford don't tend to change things
unless they have to.
Jim
On 09/05/2020 13:24, 'JR' via Quantum Owners Group wrote:
Jim do you know if the cvh crank pulley also fits the zetec blacktop
crank or are the crank noses different?
John
On
Jim do you know if the cvh crank pulley also fits the zetec blacktop crank
or are the crank noses different?
John
On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 9:42:16 AM UTC+1, Jim Hearne wrote:
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> On the silver top Zetec the CVH pulley fits straight on, just needing a
> spacer to align it with the alternator.
That rings a bell, i'm sure it's Vibra tech mount that came with and are
now fitted to the saloon, certainly an improvement.
On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 8:52:53 AM UTC+1, Nigel Plant wrote:
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> If it's of any use, I had a lot of movement in my engine mounts on the
> black top zetec turbo on my
On the silver top Zetec the CVH pulley fits straight on, just needing a
spacer to align it with the alternator.
Jim
On 08/05/2020 23:44, 'JR' via Quantum Owners Group wrote:
Thanks for the info Jim. Sounds like V belt drive is worthy exploring.
What did you do for crankshaft pulley?
John
O
The 6 speed box is narrower as it has twin output shafts (internally)
with 3 gears on each rather than one shaft with 5 (or 6) gears on.
6th is about the same ratio as 5th on a 5 speed box so unless you like
changing gear or have an engine with a narrow power band i don't think
it's worth it.
Thanks for the pics Russ - very nice - looks like a super neat conversion.
>From your info the it sounds like there is about 6.5mm total clearance with
a zetec blacktop + BC/IB5 gerabox (3mm each side). I am expecting to have
to fabricate some mounting hardware (never seen any advertised for Mk
Thanks for the info Jim. Sounds like V belt drive is worthy exploring. What
did you do for crankshaft pulley?
John
On Friday, 8 May 2020 10:23:50 UTC+1, Jim Hearne wrote:
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> I would think the 1mm clearance on the gearbox end is because the engine
> and gearbox has been moved across that way to
If it's of any use, I had a lot of movement in my engine mounts on the black
top zetec turbo on my xtreme. I had up to 20mm movement on the track.
Eventually I bit the bullet and bought the vibra technical mounts. Cannot speak
highly enough of them. Virtually no movement and great damping. Howe
Looks like the engine/gearbox has moved fractionaly to the n/s, clearance
is now less than 1/2 mm on gearbox end and 6mm at the other. The engine
mounts now fitted came with car, offhand i can't remember the make but they
aren't Ford, i'm pretty sure i saw receipt for £50+ for just one. A numbe
I would think the 1mm clearance on the gearbox end is because the engine
and gearbox has been moved across that way to give enough clearance on
the crank pulleys and belts.
The Zetec cylinder blocks are the same width as the CVH, it's just them
having flat belts for the auxiliarys instead of V b
1mm clearance sounds super tight! - you must have some really good engine
mounts to stop that hitting. Do you have a 6 speed box or BC/IB5? Front or
rear starter motor? On my cvh + BC 5 spd there is better clearance than 1mm
on gearbox end. Maybe fiitting a zetec blacktop needs the whole of the
oblem was with the old engine ?
> I would still be interested in that as a mock up for my H4x4 rather than
> using my good engine.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> *From:* russ price
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 7, 2020 10:24 AM
> *To:* Quantum Owners Group
> *Subject:* [Quan
into Saloon -anyone got
info/advice?
In that case it is the same size as the ST engine fitted in mine. I didn't do
the conversion but i had to change the engine so have some idea of how it's
done. The clearance at the crankpulley end is quite tight but it is possible
without cuttin
In that case it is the same size as the ST engine fitted in mine. I didn't
do the conversion but i had to change the engine so have some idea of how
it's done. The clearance at the crankpulley end is quite tight but it is
possible without cutting anything, clearance at the gearbox end is even
Hi Russ
Yes the immediate successor to silvertop - as per mondeo , mk1 focus etc
John
On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 10:42:17 AM UTC+1, russ price wrote:
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>
>
> Hi John
>>
> Just to be clear is this the Blacktop which is a
> derivative of the Silvertop or the Sigma/Yamaha/Mazda
Hi John
>
Just to be clear is this the Blacktop which is a derivative
of the Silvertop or the Sigma/Yamaha/Mazda engine? If the former I maybe
able to help, i have a saloon with a ST170 engine fitted; if the latter
sorry haven't a clue.
Russ
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