Re: [qubes-users] Switch of DMA altogether..?

2016-10-07 Thread neilhardley
OK. This is getting confusing. So you are now saying that you can't do a DMA attack over the web..? If I had one computer connected to another via Ethernet crossover, could one computer infect the other via DMA by sending the DMA attack over the crossover cable..? Or can a computer only

Re: [qubes-users] Switch of DMA altogether..?

2016-10-07 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 01:31:56PM -0700, neilhard...@gmail.com wrote: > Another question... > > Are DMA attacks on Ethernet are even plausible? > > WiFi seems much more vulnerable than Ethernet, due to more complexity. I think there is

[qubes-users] HCL - HP EliteBook 8560w

2016-10-07 Thread dylen
Qubes-HCL-Hewlett_Packard-HP_EliteBook_8560w-20161007-224417.cpio.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data --- layout: 'hcl' type: 'notebook' hvm: 'yes' iommu: 'no' slat: 'yes' tpm: '' brand: | Hewlett-Packard model: | HP EliteBook 8560w bios: | 68SVD Ver. F.50 cpu: | Intel(R

Re: [qubes-users] Switch of DMA altogether..?

2016-10-07 Thread neilhardley
Another question... Are DMA attacks on Ethernet are even plausible? WiFi seems much more vulnerable than Ethernet, due to more complexity. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [qubes-users] Cannot start qubes-guid!

2016-10-07 Thread illixite
The first thing that I have done On 10/7/2016 at 7:53 PM, "Andrew David Wong" wrote:On 2016-10-07 04:12, illix...@hushmail.com wrote: > Hello > I was updating my whonix-ws but maybe it was reboot and I closed it. > Now I can't start more it and shows up this message > > "Error starting vm:

Re: [qubes-users] Switch of DMA altogether..?

2016-10-07 Thread neilhardley
" The original cards, the NE1000 (8-bit ISA; announced as "E-Net adapter" in February 1987 for 495 USD) and NE2000 (16-bit ISA), and the corresponding use of limited 8-bit and later 16-bit DMA in the NE2000 " That seems to say that DMA is in fact used in the NE2000. By the way, will these

Re: [qubes-users] mounting a qemu-img'd file error?

2016-10-07 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 11:30:58AM -0700, gaikokujinkyofu...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 11:11:47 PM UTC-4, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki > wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > On Mon, Oct 03,

Re: [qubes-users] Switch of DMA altogether..?

2016-10-07 Thread Achim Patzner
Am 07.10.2016 um 20:40 schrieb neilhard...@gmail.com: > On Friday, 7 October 2016 19:37:50 UTC+1, Achim Patzner wrote: >> I think I’ve still got a bunch of NE2000 and early RealTekNICs somewhere in >> the cellar – how much do you want to offer? > > Are you saying that these devices are

[qubes-users] Installing Windows 7 freeze Qubes dom0

2016-10-07 Thread dede
Everytime i try to install windows 7 my qubes gui (dom0) freeze while win7 installing. Also listen to music in another vm is impossible. I have a fast i5 cpu and 24gb ram. Windows HVM with 8 GB ram and 4vcores. I installed qubes 3.2 on ssd. So how i can prevent that? Is it qubes creates the

Re: [qubes-users] Switch of DMA altogether..?

2016-10-07 Thread neilhardley
On Friday, 7 October 2016 19:37:50 UTC+1, Achim Patzner wrote: > I think I’ve still got a bunch of NE2000 and early RealTekNICs somewhere in > the cellar – how much do you want to offer? Are you saying that these devices are non-DMA...? -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [qubes-users] Switch of DMA altogether..?

2016-10-07 Thread Achim Patzner
Am 07.10.2016 um 16:57 schrieb neilhard...@gmail.com: > > Presumably through the CPU. I think I’ve still got a bunch of NE2000 and early RealTekNICs somewhere in the cellar – how much do you want to offer? > So I see no reason you couldn’t get Ethernet + WiFi chips without DMA. I do; those

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Switch of DMA altogether..?

2016-10-07 Thread neilhardley
So are you saying that VT-D does not actually depend on Xen...? With a Xen bug, couldn't a hacked WiFi device just break out of sys-net..? Or not..? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [qubes-users] mounting a qemu-img'd file error?

2016-10-07 Thread gaikokujinkyofusho
On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 11:11:47 PM UTC-4, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Mon, Oct 03, 2016 at 06:51:39PM -0700, gaikokujinkyofu...@gmail.com wrote: > > I converted a vdi file over to a raw file which seemed to go fine but >

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Switch of DMA altogether..?

2016-10-07 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 07:57:35AM -0700, neilhard...@gmail.com wrote: > Presumably through the CPU. > > We know this option exists for hard drives for a facts. > > So I see no reason you couldn't get Ethernet + WiFi chips without DMA. > > Not

Re: [qubes-users] Cannot start qubes-guid!

2016-10-07 Thread Andrew David Wong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-10-07 04:12, illix...@hushmail.com wrote: > Hello > I was updating my whonix-ws but maybe it was reboot and I closed it. > Now I can't start more it and shows up this message > > "Error starting vm: cannot start qubes-guid!" > > Reading

Re: [qubes-users] Kali screen problems

2016-10-07 Thread Andrew David Wong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-10-07 10:50, Andrew David Wong wrote: > On 2016-10-07 00:37, petor...@gmail.com wrote: >> I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing problems with installing Kali >> on a HVM in Qubes. When I boot the fresh installed Kali HVM i see the

Re: [qubes-users] Kali screen problems

2016-10-07 Thread Andrew David Wong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-10-07 00:37, petor...@gmail.com wrote: > I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing problems with installing Kali > on a HVM in Qubes. When I boot the fresh installed Kali HVM i see the logon > screen fine, but after that I see the top

Re: [qubes-users] How do i get installed software to persist?

2016-10-07 Thread Franz
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:45 PM, wrote: > Using 'sudo aptitude update' > 'sudo aptitude install libreoffice' > > in whonix-ws template terminal, libreoffice does not show up in whonix-ws > vm's when started afterwards. Installing libreoffice directly into vm's > works

[qubes-users] How do i get installed software to persist?

2016-10-07 Thread boromirsbeard
Using 'sudo aptitude update' 'sudo aptitude install libreoffice' in whonix-ws template terminal, libreoffice does not show up in whonix-ws vm's when started afterwards. Installing libreoffice directly into vm's works but does not persist between reboots. Is this qubes normal behavior? How do i

[qubes-users] Re: Switch of DMA altogether..?

2016-10-07 Thread neilhardley
Presumably through the CPU. We know this option exists for hard drives for a facts. So I see no reason you couldn't get Ethernet + WiFi chips without DMA. Not all devices support switching off DMA, so I can see why Qubes decided to use VT-D + Xen instead. But certainly, I think there are

[qubes-users] Re: Switch of DMA altogether..?

2016-10-07 Thread Grzesiek Chodzicki
W dniu piątek, 7 października 2016 13:14:41 UTC+2 użytkownik neilh...@gmail.com napisał: > Qubes uses VT-D and a Net VM to attempt to isolate buggy WiFi adapters from > the rest of the Qubes system. > > But this isolation still depends on Xen not having bugs... And we know that > Xen has bugs,

[qubes-users] Switch of DMA altogether..?

2016-10-07 Thread neilhardley
Qubes uses VT-D and a Net VM to attempt to isolate buggy WiFi adapters from the rest of the Qubes system. But this isolation still depends on Xen not having bugs... And we know that Xen has bugs, and will likely continue to have more going forward. So, instead of VT-D, why not just switch off

[qubes-users] Cannot start qubes-guid!

2016-10-07 Thread illixite
Hello I was updating my whonix-ws but maybe it was reboot and I closed it. Now I can't start more it and shows up this message "Error starting vm: cannot start qubes-guid!" Reading some post I run this command qvm-run whonix-ws --nogui --pass-io -u root "journalctl -xb | grep -i -E

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Unable to get right X display for kali on HVM

2016-10-07 Thread 'Gabriel' via qubes-users
Had the same issue on my Dell. Both the xfce and lxde editions work fine though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [qubes-users] Major problems with 3.2, devs must address

2016-10-07 Thread Achim Patzner
Am 07.10.2016 um 06:44 schrieb boromirsbe...@sigaint.org: > Ok my concern mostly is because its my windows disk and i dont trust it, If you're not using a dedicated machine for Qubes instead of booting multiple operating systems with definitely lower security standards anyway I don't see your

[qubes-users] Re: Unable to get right X display for kali on HVM

2016-10-07 Thread petorian
I have the same issue on a Lenovo T440s -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[qubes-users] Kali screen problems

2016-10-07 Thread petorian
I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing problems with installing Kali on a HVM in Qubes. When I boot the fresh installed Kali HVM i see the logon screen fine, but after that I see the top op the screen in the lower 10% of the window -- You received this message because you are