Re: [ntp:questions] Experimental ntpd for Windows

2009-01-29 Thread Terje Mathisen
Dave Hart wrote: > Are you using ntpd on Windows and dissatisfied with its timekeeping? > I have a patched ntpd with changes intended to improve its accuracy > that could use some wider testing. Source and binaries are linked to > below. > > Two changes are particularly noteworthy: > > 1. Code

Re: [ntp:questions] Increase maximum frequency offset to deal with really bad clock

2009-01-29 Thread Terje Mathisen
Richard B. Gilbert wrote: > j...@sailorfej.net wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> I have a some FreeBSD systems running as guests in Microsoft Virtual >> Server. There is a known problem with these were the clocks run very >> fast. I am trying to use ntpd to keep their clocks in sync, but the >> frequency

Re: [ntp:questions] Experimental ntpd for Windows

2009-01-29 Thread Dave Hart
Take 2: On Jan 28, 11:52 pm, Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> wrote: > > I've installed your version, and included -M in my startup parameters: > > I get Event Log (Application) messages about stuff like: > > System time quantum 1.000 msec, min. slew 6.410 ppm/s Notice the observed qu

Re: [ntp:questions] Experimental ntpd for Windows

2009-01-29 Thread Dave Hart
On Jan 28, 11:52 pm, Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> wrote: > > I've installed your version, and included -M in my startup parameters: > > I get Event Log (Application) messages about stuff like: > > System time quantum 1.000 msec, min. slew 6.410 ppm/s > Clock interrupt period 15.600

Re: [ntp:questions] Experimental ntpd for Windows

2009-01-29 Thread Danny Mayer
Dave Hart wrote: > Take 2: > > On Jan 28, 11:52 pm, Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> > wrote: >> I've installed your version, and included -M in my startup parameters: >> >> I get Event Log (Application) messages about stuff like: >> >> System time quantum 1.000 msec, min. slew 6.410 p

Re: [ntp:questions] Experimental ntpd for Windows

2009-01-29 Thread Martin Burnicki
Danny Mayer wrote: > Dave Hart wrote: >> Take 2: >> >> On Jan 28, 11:52 pm, Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> >> wrote: >>> I've installed your version, and included -M in my startup parameters: >>> >>> I get Event Log (Application) messages about stuff like: >>> >>> System time quantum

Re: [ntp:questions] Experimental ntpd for Windows

2009-01-29 Thread Dave Hart
On Jan 29, 4:52 am, ma...@ntp.isc.org (Danny Mayer) wrote: > Dave Hart wrote: > > Take 2: > > > On Jan 28, 11:52 pm, Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> > > wrote: > >> I've installed your version, and included -M in my startup parameters: > > >> I get Event Log (Application) messages abou

Re: [ntp:questions] Experimental ntpd for Windows

2009-01-29 Thread Terje Mathisen
Dave Hart wrote: > On Jan 28, 11:52 pm, Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> > wrote: >> I've installed your version, and included -M in my startup parameters: >> >> I get Event Log (Application) messages about stuff like: >> >> System time quantum 1.000 msec, min. slew 6.410 ppm/s >> Clock

Re: [ntp:questions] Experimental ntpd for Windows

2009-01-29 Thread Harlan Stenn
Just my $.02, and y'all know Im not a windows guy. Yes, it would be ideal to have the timekeeping be as good as possible under all circumstances. And along the way we will continue to find situations that just mess us up, and other places where we learn that doing better under X causes us to do w

Re: [ntp:questions] Experimental ntpd for Windows

2009-01-29 Thread Unruh
ma...@ntp.isc.org (Danny Mayer) writes: >Dave Hart wrote: >> Take 2: >> >> On Jan 28, 11:52 pm, Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> >> wrote: >>> I've installed your version, and included -M in my startup parameters: >>> >>> I get Event Log (Application) messages about stuff like: >>> >>

Re: [ntp:questions] Experimental ntpd for Windows

2009-01-29 Thread Danny Mayer
Dave Hart wrote: > On Jan 29, 4:52 am, ma...@ntp.isc.org (Danny Mayer) wrote: >> Dave Hart wrote: >>> Take 2: >>> On Jan 28, 11:52 pm, Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> >>> wrote: I've installed your version, and included -M in my startup parameters: I get Event Log (Applicatio

Re: [ntp:questions] Experimental ntpd for Windows

2009-01-29 Thread Dave Hart
On Jan 29, 11:38 am, Harlan Stenn wrote: > > If we can automatically detect when a "behavior shift" is needed and effect > that change, great. > > If we cannot automatically detect these situations but we have a mechanism > that would allow folks to select the behavior that is best for them, that'

[ntp:questions] Learnings: FC8 Linux ntpd syncs to NMEA message but not PPS

2009-01-29 Thread Phil . Newlon
I have now managed, with the patient help from Bill U., to get my Linux NTP system running using the PPS signal from a Garmin 18x LVC. I thought I would share what I had to do to make it all work. * References: http://time.qnan.org/ http://time.qnan.org/shmpps.tar http://www.david-taylor.myb

Re: [ntp:questions] Experimental ntpd for Windows

2009-01-29 Thread Dave Hart
On Jan 29, 12:54 pm, ma...@ntp.isc.org (Danny Mayer) wrote: > Dave Hart wrote: > > Most likely, Windows > > Server 2008 has exactly the same behavior as Vista.  It's entirely > > reasonable on a server to know that you won't run Flash, Quicktime, or > > Java. > > Actually that's untrue. We run Tomc

Re: [ntp:questions] Learnings: FC8 Linux ntpd syncs to NMEA message but not PPS

2009-01-29 Thread Bill Unruh
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, phil.new...@wendysarbys.com wrote: > - If you have NMEA output from the GPS in your ntp.conf file > (127.127.20.0), expect it to have "reach 0" reported when you finally get > PPS (127.127.28.0) working. You can have NMEA or PPS from your serial > input, you just can't have b

Re: [ntp:questions] Learnings: FC8 Linux ntpd syncs to NMEA message but not PPS

2009-01-29 Thread Folkert van Heusden
> > PPS (127.127.28.0) working. You can have NMEA or PPS from your serial > > input, you just can't have both at the same time from the same GPS on the > > same port. > > There is no reason why you could not have both, except that the programs (eg > shmpps) has not been written to use both. It is

Re: [ntp:questions] Learnings: FC8 Linux ntpd syncs to NMEA messagebut not PPS

2009-01-29 Thread Chris Stankevitz
Folkert van Heusden wrote: > I use the pps patch by rodolpho giometti together with udo van den > heuvel's patch to ntpd. Now my ntp syncs to both the nmea and the pps > part of my garmin: > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter > ===

Re: [ntp:questions] Experimental ntpd for Windows

2009-01-29 Thread Danny Mayer
Dave Hart wrote: > On Jan 29, 11:38 am, Harlan Stenn wrote: >> If we can automatically detect when a "behavior shift" is needed and effect >> that change, great. >> >> If we cannot automatically detect these situations but we have a mechanism >> that would allow folks to select the behavior that i