Re: [ntp:questions] synchronization distance

2010-12-04 Thread David Woolley
David L. Mills wrote: BlackList, I say again with considerable emphasis: this is a Microsoft product, not the NTPv4 distribution that leaves here. What you see is what you get, But it is often NTPv4 reference version that is used as the client and fails to synchronize because the root

Re: [ntp:questions] synchronization distance

2010-12-04 Thread David L. Mills
David, I'm not making myself absolutely crystal clear and you are obscuring the point. Windows has an awesome protocol that sets the time. It happens to use the NTP packet header format, but is not otherwise compliant with the NTPv4 specification, especially the 36-h poll interval

Re: [ntp:questions] synchronization distance

2010-12-04 Thread David Woolley
David L. Mills wrote: David, I'm not making myself absolutely crystal clear and you are obscuring the point. Windows has an awesome protocol that sets the time. It happens to use the NTP packet header format, but is not otherwise compliant with the NTPv4 specification, especially the 36-h

Re: [ntp:questions] synchronization distance

2010-12-04 Thread David Woolley
David Woolley wrote: To a large extent I would agree with you, but the net effect of this is to say if you work for a marketing led company (probably true of most Also, all I was saying in the beginning is that a likely cause of this symptom is trying to operate a real implementation of

Re: [ntp:questions] synchronization distance

2010-12-04 Thread David J Taylor
David Woolley da...@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid wrote in message news:ide3nn$6j...@news.eternal-september.org... [] To a large extent I would agree with you, but the net effect of this is to say if you work for a marketing led company (probably true of most of the Fortune 500), do not use NTP as

Re: [ntp:questions] synchronization distance

2010-12-04 Thread David Woolley
David J Taylor wrote: of the application. Many of the electronics designers used UNIX systems That makes you unusual for a modern Western company. Most are in financial services or distribution these days. However, even engineering companies can be marketing led, i.e. have senior

Re: [ntp:questions] synchronization distance

2010-12-04 Thread David L. Mills
David, I'm not learning anything at all in our exchange, and that is a real disappointment. Apparently, there are complaints NTPv4 does not play nicely with Microsoft. Microsoft is not about to change. NTPv4 is not about to change; however, there is a minor configuration option that makes

Re: [ntp:questions] synchronization distance

2010-12-04 Thread David J Taylor
David Woolley da...@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid wrote in message news:idefp2$se...@news.eternal-september.org... David J Taylor wrote: of the application. Many of the electronics designers used UNIX systems That makes you unusual for a modern Western company. Most are in financial services