David L. Mills wrote:
David,

I'm not making myself absolutely crystal clear and you are obscuring the point.

Windows has an awesome protocol that sets the time. It happens to use the NTP packet header format, but is not otherwise compliant with the NTPv4 specification, especially the 36-h poll interval limitation, which is an engineering parameter based on the expected wander of a commodity crystal oscillator. All that doesn't matter at all, other than Windows servers are compatible with Windows clients. What does matter is that Windows servers are NOT compatible with NTPv4 clients, which SHOULD NOT BE USED. Use one of the SNTP variants instead.

To a large extent I would agree with you, but the net effect of this is to say "if you work for a marketing led company (probably true of most of the Fortune 500), do not use NTP as it is almost certain that your IT department has a strict Microsoft policy for their core systems, and are not time synchronisation experts".

As a diehard workaround, use the tos maxdist command to set the distance threshold to something really high, like ten seconds. There is nothing whatsoever to be gained by this, as the expected error with update intervals of a week will be as bad or worse than with SNTP..

Dave

David Woolley wrote:

David L. Mills wrote:

BlackList,

I say again with considerable emphasis: this is a Microsoft product, not the NTPv4 distribution that leaves here. What you see is what you get,


But it is often NTPv4 reference version that is used as the client and fails to synchronize because the root dispersion is too high.

Corporate politics are such that it is difficult to get a Unix system, or even Windows running the reference version, near the root of the time distribution tree. People deeper in the tree then see the effects, even if they are using the reference implementation.

warts and all. I doubt it has anything to do with root distance, or any other public specification, but that doesn't make any difference if the customer is satisfied with the performance. Just don't compare it with anything in the NTP distribution, documentation or specification.

Dave

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David L. Mills wrote:
I had no idea somebody would try to configure current
NTPv4 with a poll interval of a week.
The current maximum allowed is 36 h.


<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc773263%28WS.10%29.aspx>
<BlockQuote>
SpecialPollInterval
This entry specifies the special poll interval in seconds
 for manual peers. ...
The default value on stand-alone clients and servers is 604,800.
</BlockQuote>

{7 days}



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