[ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-06 Thread Mark C. Stephens
Hi All, I am about to build a new NTP server for testing refclocks. I believe that BSD is recommended over Linux, which is recommended over Windows? Which is the *best* OS for an NTP server? Secondly, I picked up a server out of the Junk pile today, it an HP Dl145G2. Please advise What I should

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-06 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 4:38 AM, Mark C. Stephens wrote: > Hi All, I am about to build a new NTP server for testing refclocks. > > I believe that BSD is recommended over Linux, which is recommended over > Windows? > > Which is the *best* OS for an NTP server? Windows is so bad for this job, I'd a

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-06 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2011-12-06, Chris Albertson wrote: > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 4:38 AM, Mark C. Stephens > wrote: > >> Hi All, I am about to build a new NTP server for testing refclocks. >> >> I believe that BSD is recommended over Linux, which is recommended >> over Windows? >> >> Which is the *best* OS for an

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-06 Thread unruh
On 2011-12-06, Mark C. Stephens wrote: > Hi All, I am about to build a new NTP server for testing refclocks. > > I believe that BSD is recommended over Linux, which is recommended over > Windows? Between Linux and BSD I do not think there is much difference. But both are far better than windows.

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-06 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
unruh wrote: > Mark C. Stephens wrote: >> Secondly, I picked up a server out of the Junk pile today, it an HP Dl145G2. > > That is a computer?

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-07 Thread Mischanko, Edward T
> unruh wrote: > > Mark C. Stephens wrote: > >> Secondly, I picked up a server out of the Junk pile today, it > an HP Dl145G2. > > > > That is a computer? > > ison-g2.html> >

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-07 Thread unruh
On 2011-12-07, Mischanko, Edward T wrote: >> unruh wrote: >> > Mark C. Stephens wrote: >> >> Secondly, I picked up a server out of the Junk pile today, it >> an HP Dl145G2. >> > >> > That is a computer? >> >> > ison-g2.html> >>

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-07 Thread Rick Jones
unruh wrote: > Nothing except that he wrote down an incomprehensible line of numbers > and expected people to know that was a computer, rather than a > printer, or an atomic clock. You were expecting maybe an HP 4972A?-) (10 Mbit/s Ethernet network analyzer from *many* years ago) or perhaps an H

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-07 Thread unruh
On 2011-12-08, Rick Jones wrote: > unruh wrote: >> Nothing except that he wrote down an incomprehensible line of numbers >> and expected people to know that was a computer, rather than a >> printer, or an atomic clock. > > You were expecting maybe an HP 4972A?-) (10 Mbit/s Ethernet network > ana

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-07 Thread Rick Jones
unruh wrote: > On 2011-12-08, Rick Jones wrote: > > unruh wrote: > >> Nothing except that he wrote down an incomprehensible line of numbers > >> and expected people to know that was a computer, rather than a > >> printer, or an atomic clock. > > > > You were expecting maybe an HP 4972A?-) (10 M

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-07 Thread Mark C. Stephens
es! Mark -Original Message- From: Rick Jones [mailto:rick.jon...@hp.com] Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2011 12:16 PM To: questions@lists.ntp.org Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server unruh wrote: > Nothing except that he wrote down an incomprehensible line of numbers > and ex

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-07 Thread unruh
On 2011-12-08, Mark C. Stephens wrote: > Oh no I am quite happy with my hp3325A ;) > > > Well Okay, after a slight detour trying to get ilo100 to work, I loaded > centos 6.0 x64 on the DL165 G2 (computer) and found it has 3.3V PCI slots. So > none of my Serial I/O cards fit, being 5V. I have see

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-07 Thread Mark C. Stephens
Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server On 2011-12-08, Mark C. Stephens wrote: > Oh no I am quite happy with my hp3325A ;) > > > Well Okay, after a slight detour trying to get ilo100 to work, I loaded > centos 6.0 x64 on the DL165 G2 (computer) and found it has 3.3V PCI slots. So >

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-08 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 03:55:50AM +, Mark C. Stephens wrote: > Oh no I am quite happy with my hp3325A ;) > > > Well Okay, after a slight detour trying to get ilo100 to work, I loaded > centos 6.0 x64 on the DL165 G2 (computer) and found it has 3.3V PCI slots. So > none of my Serial I/O car

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-08 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 07:53:15AM +, Mark C. Stephens wrote: > Hello Sir Unrah, > > > I just use ntpq -p. I am using Dave Harts rather excellent port to windows: > > C:\Program Files\NTP\bin>ntpq -p > remote refid st t when > pollr

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-08 Thread Dave Hart
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 11:50, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: > They are milliseconds. If ntpd on Windows can really keep the clock > stable to to ~10 microseconds, the recent suggestion posted here to > never use Windows for serious timekeeping might need to be revisited. It can, with the stars aligned

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-08 Thread David J Taylor
They are milliseconds. If ntpd on Windows can really keep the clock stable to to ~10 microseconds, the recent suggestion posted here to never use Windows for serious timekeeping might need to be revisited. -- Miroslav Lichvar Here's what I see on my Windows PCs: http://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/p

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-08 Thread Mark C. Stephens
] Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2011 10:50 PM To: questions@lists.ntp.org Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 07:53:15AM +, Mark C. Stephens wrote: > Hello Sir Unrah, > > > I just use ntpq -p. I am using Dave Harts rather excellent port to windows: >

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-08 Thread David J Taylor
Unfortunately windows update restarted the machine last night so I have to wait for things to stabilise again before posting stats :\ Mark Have you not set Windows Update to inform but not automatically install? Cheers, David ___ questions mailin

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-09 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 12:50:12PM +, Dave Hart wrote: > The results are worse than FreeBSD or Linux I suspect the difference > is mostly due to the interpolation code having to guess at when, on > the counter timescale, the system clock ticked up to the present > value. Some ugly busy-loopin

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-09 Thread Dave Hart
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 17:27, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: > What resolution has the clock frequency adjustment? I'm reading > about the SetSystemTimeAdjustment function and the adjustment is in > 100-ns units applied over an lpTimeIncrement interval. If the interval > is too short I suspect this could

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-13 Thread Mark C. Stephens
like slackware because it doesn't go off the beaten path like the RH based distros. Amazing Thanks Anyway, Mark. -Original Message- From: Miroslav Lichvar [mailto:mlich...@redhat.com] Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2011 10:41 PM To: questions@lists.ntp.org Subject: Re: [ntp:questions

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-13 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
stros. > > > Amazing > > Thanks Anyway, Mark. > > > -Original Message- > From: Miroslav Lichvar [mailto:mlich...@redhat.com] > Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2011 10:41 PM > To: questions@lists.ntp.org > Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server > > On Thu, De

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-14 Thread Mark C. Stephens
e to the rescue :) Many thanks, Mark -Original Message- From: Miguel Gonçalves [mailto:m...@miguelgoncalves.com] Sent: Wednesday, 14 December 2011 12:53 AM To: Mark C. Stephens Cc: questions@lists.ntp.org Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server This is exactly why I prefer FreeBSD.

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-14 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
tephens Cc: questions@lists.ntp.org Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server This is exactly why I prefer FreeBSD. Isn't this an option for you? Cheers, Miguel On 13/12/2011, at 10:14, "Mark C. Stephens" wrote: > I just tried Fedora 16, its quite full of bugs from Anaconda t

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-14 Thread Chris Albertson
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Mark C. Stephens wrote: > I wouldn't have a clue with regards to BSD I am afraid. > > So I downloaded the latest slackware and installed it. OK, here is a "clue". BSD is enough like Slackware that you will do just fine.When Slackware came out (I remember w

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-14 Thread Mark C. Stephens
.ntp.org Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Mark C. Stephens wrote: > I wouldn't have a clue with regards to BSD I am afraid. > > So I downloaded the latest slackware and installed it. OK, here is a "clue". BSD is enough l

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-17 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2011-12-14, Mark C. Stephens wrote: > BSD sounds too good to be true! When something sounds too good to be true then it generally isn't. BTW ... what does this have to do with "New ntp server"? -- Steve Kostecke NTP Public Services Project - http://support.ntp.org/ __

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-18 Thread Mark C. Stephens
[mailto:koste...@ntp.org] Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 9:03 AM To: questions@lists.ntp.org Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server On 2011-12-14, Mark C. Stephens wrote: > BSD sounds too good to be true! When something sounds too good to be true then it generally isn't. BTW ... what does t

[ntp:questions] New NTP server to add in the pool

2012-01-02 Thread Elia S.
Hello I am the owner of an Italian small ISP, and I would like to donate a little of my bandwidth and horsepower (!!!) to the NTP Pool of servers, adding an NTP pool to the public pool. I have written email at webmaster AT ntp.org and also I joined the #ntp channel on freenet, but I got no an

Re: [ntp:questions] New NTP server to add in the pool

2012-01-02 Thread David J Taylor
Hello I am the owner of an Italian small ISP, and I would like to donate a little of my bandwidth and horsepower (!!!) to the NTP Pool of servers, adding an NTP pool to the public pool. I have written email at webmaster AT ntp.org and also I joined the #ntp channel on freenet, but I got no an

Re: [ntp:questions] New NTP server to add in the pool

2012-01-02 Thread Rob
Elia S. wrote: > Hello > I am the owner of an Italian small ISP, and I would like to donate a little > of my bandwidth and horsepower (!!!) to the NTP Pool of servers, adding an > NTP pool to the public pool. > > I have written email at webmaster AT ntp.org and also I joined the #ntp > channel

Re: [ntp:questions] New NTP server to add in the pool

2012-01-02 Thread Elia S.
I have added the server to the pool I entered in a page where it asked me to write to the webmaster... no problems. all resolved now. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] New NTP server to add in the pool

2012-01-02 Thread Dave Hart
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 16:46, Elia S. wrote: > I have added the server to the pool > > I entered in a page where it asked me to write to the webmaster... > no problems. all resolved now. Thanks for helping to provide pool.ntp.org service -- we can always use more pool servers to spread the lo

Re: [ntp:questions] New NTP server to add in the pool

2012-01-03 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2012-01-02, Dave Hart wrote: > For future reference, adding a server to pool.ntp.org is a > self-service operation via http://www.pool.ntp.org/ (don't omit > "www."). Servers may also be added to the Pool by setting "PoolMember" to "Yes" in an NTP Public Time Server list entry. This is a self

Re: [ntp:questions] New NTP server to add in the pool

2012-01-03 Thread Elia S.
Hello the server is added in the website of the pool. http://www.pool.ntp.org/scores/109.168.118.249 But why on this page http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/SubmittingYourListEntriesViaEmail It tells to send the entries via email??? I have sent mails there with no answer, and I am not on

Re: [ntp:questions] New NTP server to add in the pool

2012-01-04 Thread Rob
Elia S. wrote: > Hello > the server is added in the website of the pool. > http://www.pool.ntp.org/scores/109.168.118.249 > > > But why on this page > > http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/SubmittingYourListEntriesViaEmail > > It tells to send the entries via email??? > > I have sent mails the

Re: [ntp:questions] New NTP server to add in the pool

2012-01-04 Thread Rob
Elia S. wrote: > Hello > I have already registered in the list and my server is graphed and > activated. > > I would like to enter in the browsable list of NTP server of IT, where I > think that the email is needed to be sent. Then be patient. It clearly says there may be a delay in processing

Re: [ntp:questions] New NTP server to add in the pool

2012-01-04 Thread Elia S.
Hello I have already registered in the list and my server is graphed and activated. I would like to enter in the browsable list of NTP server of IT, where I think that the email is needed to be sent. "Rob" ha scritto nel messaggio news:slrnjg82nu.ofi.nom...@xs8.xs4all.nl... Elia S. wrot

Re: [ntp:questions] New NTP server to add in the pool

2012-01-04 Thread Elia S.
Ok !!! :) ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] New NTP server to add in the pool

2012-01-04 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2012-01-04, Rob wrote: > You are confused between two different lists of NTP servers. > > When you want to enter the ntp server pool you must use the website > www.pool.ntp.org not support.ntp.org. That is not true. The Pool has code to retrieve the PoolMembers from http://support.ntp.org/s1

Re: [ntp:questions] New NTP server to add in the pool

2012-01-04 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2012-01-04, Elia S. wrote: > I have already registered in the list and my server is graphed and > activated. > > I would like to enter in the browsable list of NTP server of IT, where I > think that the email is needed to be sent. Please follow the instructions at http://support.ntp.org/Ser