Re: [ntp:questions] Ruh, roh. Leap Second?

2008-07-04 Thread David L. Mills
Martin, Yes. Dave Martin Burnicki wrote: > Dave, > > David L. Mills wrote: > >>Martin, >> >>There can be a disconnect of serveral months between some gimmick in the >>development branch and when it appears on supermarket shelves; > > > Of course. > > >>however, >>the current version does

Re: [ntp:questions] Ruh, roh. Leap Second?

2008-07-04 Thread David L. Mills
Nero, I think it pretty clear what "overridden" means. Additional information on leap seconds is in the ntpd documentation on the web. Dave Nero Imhard wrote: > David L. Mills schreef: > >> the current version [...] does take a vote among the sources on >> whether to mark the calendar for a le

Re: [ntp:questions] Ruh, roh. Leap Second?

2008-07-04 Thread Nero Imhard
David L. Mills schreef: > the current version [...] does take a vote among the sources on > whether to mark the calendar for a leap. All this is overridden if > the NIST leapseconds file is present. How interesting. I had a question about this in another thread. Can I take this to mean that *if*

Re: [ntp:questions] Ruh, roh. Leap Second?

2008-07-03 Thread Martin Burnicki
Peter, Peter Laws wrote: > Peter Laws wrote: > > >> All are running RHEL 4 or 5 and are reasonably current on patches. None >> use anything but the NTP version distributed with RHEL. > > Looks like my brand new, not-yet-in-service DNS/DHCP appliances recorded > the leap second as well, so that

Re: [ntp:questions] Ruh, roh. Leap Second?

2008-07-03 Thread Peter Laws
Peter Laws wrote: All are running RHEL 4 or 5 and are reasonably current on patches. None use anything but the NTP version distributed with RHEL. Looks like my brand new, not-yet-in-service DNS/DHCP appliances recorded the leap second as well, so that effectively eliminates RHEL, since none

Re: [ntp:questions] Ruh, roh. Leap Second?

2008-07-03 Thread Peter Laws
Martin Burnicki wrote: If ntpd had logged the source from which it had received the leap second announcement then we would have a clue ... Which would be helpful. Looks like I had at least 14 systems report a leap second insertion. All of them get time from either of two sets of peered syste

Re: [ntp:questions] Ruh, roh. Leap Second?

2008-07-03 Thread Martin Burnicki
Hal, Hal Murray wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Laws) writes: >>1 Time(s): Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC >> >>RHEL 5.2 system running ntpq [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 17 18:14:14 UTC 2008 >>(1) which is the default for that distribution. Grepping aro

Re: [ntp:questions] Ruh, roh. Leap Second?

2008-07-03 Thread Martin Burnicki
Dave, David L. Mills wrote: > Martin, > > There can be a disconnect of serveral months between some gimmick in the > development branch and when it appears on supermarket shelves; Of course. > however, > the current version does explicitly announce impending leaps in the > protostats file and

Re: [ntp:questions] Ruh, roh. Leap Second?

2008-07-02 Thread Hal Murray
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Laws) writes: >1 Time(s): Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC > >RHEL 5.2 system running ntpq [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 17 18:14:14 UTC 2008 >(1) which is the default for that distribution. Grepping around in the >logs it appears that

Re: [ntp:questions] Ruh, roh. Leap Second?

2008-07-02 Thread David L. Mills
Martin, There can be a disconnect of serveral months between some gimmick in the development branch and when it appears on supermarket shelves; however, the current version does explicitly announce impending leaps in the protostats file and does take a vote among the sources on whether to mark

Re: [ntp:questions] Ruh, roh. Leap Second?

2008-07-02 Thread Martin Burnicki
Dave, David L. Mills wrote: > Peter, > > I head the same comment over the jungle telegraph. However, in the > distributions that leave here there is no such comment, so it would have > to come from somewhere else or from a modified distribution. The message: Clock: inserting leap second 23:5

Re: [ntp:questions] Ruh, roh. Leap Second?

2008-07-01 Thread David L. Mills
Peter, I head the same comment over the jungle telegraph. However, in the distributions that leave here there is no such comment, so it would have to come from somewhere else or from a modified distribution. To help spot feckless fingers, recent versions have a protostats file in the statistic

Re: [ntp:questions] Ruh, roh. Leap Second?

2008-07-01 Thread Peter Laws
Martin Burnicki wrote: Unless there is a bug in that specific version of ntpd you are running, ntpd only propagates leap second announcements if it has received such an announcement from either an upstream NTP server or reference clock, or from a leap seconds file. Which upstream servers are yo

Re: [ntp:questions] Ruh, roh. Leap Second?

2008-07-01 Thread Martin Burnicki
Peter, Peter Laws wrote: > 1 Time(s): Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC > > RHEL 5.2 system running ntpq [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 17 18:14:14 UTC 2008 > (1) which is the default for that distribution. Grepping around in the > logs it appears that most or all of my RHEL systems did it. >

Re: [ntp:questions] Ruh, roh. Leap Second?

2008-07-01 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Peter Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >1 Time(s): Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC > >RHEL 5.2 system running ntpq [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 17 18:14:14 UTC 2008 >(1) which is the default for that distribution. Grepping around in the >logs it appears that most or all of

[ntp:questions] Ruh, roh. Leap Second?

2008-07-01 Thread Peter Laws
1 Time(s): Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC RHEL 5.2 system running ntpq [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 17 18:14:14 UTC 2008 (1) which is the default for that distribution. Grepping around in the logs it appears that most or all of my RHEL systems did it. I got this, too, on at least one