[ntp:questions] Slow convergence loopstats (but nice results)

2013-11-22 Thread schmidt . rich
I have just written a PHC driver for NTP and tested it on this system: Supermicro SYS-50150EHF-D525 which has a pair of Intel 82574L NICs which have IEEE 1588 hardware-based timestamping. I'm using NTP dev 4.2.7p397 on Linux kernel 3.12 with linuxptp. One of the PHCs is sync'd via PTP to an FEI

Re: [ntp:questions] Slow convergence loopstats (but nice results)

2013-11-22 Thread unruh
On 2013-11-22, schmidt.r...@gmail.com wrote: > I have just written a PHC driver for NTP and tested it on this system: > Supermicro SYS-50150EHF-D525 which has a pair of Intel 82574L NICs which > have IEEE 1588 hardware-based timestamping. I'm using NTP dev 4.2.7p397 on > Linux kernel 3.12 with l

Re: [ntp:questions] Slow convergence loopstats (but nice results)

2013-11-22 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2013-11-22 09:19, schmidt.r...@gmail.com wrote: I have just written a PHC driver for NTP and tested it on this system: Supermicro SYS-50150EHF-D525 which has a pair of Intel 82574L NICs which have IEEE 1588 hardware-based timestamping. I'm using NTP dev 4.2.7p397 onLinux kernel 3.12 with lin

Re: [ntp:questions] Slow convergence loopstats (but nice results)

2013-11-22 Thread schmidt . rich
On Friday, November 22, 2013 12:38:36 PM UTC-5, unruh wrote: > On 2013-11-22, schmidt.r...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I have just written a PHC driver for NTP and tested it on this system: > > > Supermicro SYS-50150EHF-D525 which has a pair of Intel 82574L NICs which > > > have IEEE 1588 hardware-

Re: [ntp:questions] Slow convergence loopstats (but nice results)

2013-11-22 Thread unruh
On 2013-11-22, Brian Inglis wrote: > On 2013-11-22 09:19, schmidt.r...@gmail.com wrote: >> I have just written a PHC driver for NTP and tested it on this system: >> Supermicro SYS-50150EHF-D525 which has a pair of Intel 82574L NICs which >> have >> IEEE 1588 hardware-based timestamping. I'm usi

Re: [ntp:questions] Slow convergence loopstats (but nice results)

2013-11-22 Thread Harlan Stenn
Rich, Improving convergence time is important to the NTP Project. If there's a bug in the code or in the algorithms let's identify and fix it. If there is a known "offset to true time" then let's increase support for http://nwtime.org/projects/timestamp-api/ so it can start being deployed and ap

Re: [ntp:questions] Slow convergence loopstats (but nice results)

2013-11-22 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2013-11-22 14:12, unruh wrote: On 2013-11-22, Brian Inglis wrote: On 2013-11-22 09:19, schmidt.r...@gmail.com wrote: I have just written a PHC driver for NTP and tested it on this system: Supermicro SYS-50150EHF-D525 which has a pair of Intel 82574L NICs which have IEEE 1588 hardware-base

Re: [ntp:questions] Slow convergence loopstats (but nice results)

2013-12-09 Thread schmidt . rich
On Saturday, November 23, 2013 1:20:37 AM UTC-5, Brian Inglis wrote: > On 2013-11-22 14:12, unruh wrote: > My point is that without other indicators, these are just another bunch of > ref clock > > timestamps being delivered into the discipline control loop. > > When these are known to be high q

Re: [ntp:questions] Slow convergence loopstats (but nice results)

2013-12-09 Thread Terje Mathisen
schmidt.r...@gmail.com wrote: My new prototype driver refclock_phc() uses as its clock the PTP Hardware Clock (PHC) found on one of the newer LAN NICs which are PTP (IEEE 1588) aware. This driver is producing phenomenal results (under LINUX 3.12 with linuxPTP): the overlapping Allan deviation com

Re: [ntp:questions] Slow convergence loopstats (but nice results)

2013-12-11 Thread schmidt . rich
I do the latter. To use PTP to timestamp one would have to modify NTP source outside of refclock_phc(), which we would not presume to do. However the PHC loopstats has a standard deviation of 0.58 microseconds, so we are not far off in using standard NTP timestamping. Rich Schmidt > Do you

Re: [ntp:questions] Slow convergence loopstats (but nice results)

2013-12-11 Thread Terje Mathisen
schmidt.r...@gmail.com wrote: I do the latter. To use PTP to timestamp one would have to modify NTP source outside of refclock_phc(), which we would not presume to do. However the PHC loopstats has a standard deviation of 0.58 microseconds, so we are not far off in using standard NTP timestamping

Re: [ntp:questions] Slow convergence loopstats (but nice results)

2013-12-12 Thread Martin Burnicki
schmidt.r...@gmail.com wrote: My new prototype driver refclock_phc() uses as its clock the PTP Hardware Clock (PHC) found on one of the newer LAN NICs which are PTP (IEEE 1588) aware. This driver is producing phenomenal results (under LINUX 3.12 with linuxPTP): the overlapping Allan deviation com

Re: [ntp:questions] Slow convergence loopstats (but nice results)

2013-12-12 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 09:59:03AM +0100, Martin Burnicki wrote: > A major problem was that the standard NTP protocol doesn't support a > way to send the captured time stamp of a previously sent packet to > its client, as done by the so-called followup message in PTP. ntpd has the peer and broadca

Re: [ntp:questions] Slow convergence loopstats (but nice results)

2013-12-12 Thread Harlan Stenn
What about NTP's interleave mode (xleave)? H ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] Slow convergence loopstats (but nice results)

2013-12-12 Thread Martin Burnicki
Harlan Stenn wrote: What about NTP's interleave mode (xleave)? Please see my reply to Miroslav. Martin -- Martin Burnicki Meinberg Funkuhren Bad Pyrmont Germany ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questi

Re: [ntp:questions] Slow convergence loopstats (but nice results)

2013-12-12 Thread Martin Burnicki
Miroslav Lichvar wrote: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 09:59:03AM +0100, Martin Burnicki wrote: A major problem was that the standard NTP protocol doesn't support a way to send the captured time stamp of a previously sent packet to its client, as done by the so-called followup message in PTP. ntpd ha

Re: [ntp:questions] Slow convergence loopstats (but nice results)

2013-12-14 Thread Uwe Klein
Martin Burnicki wrote: There are network switches out there which are PTP-aware and also timestamp incoming and outgoing PTP packets to compensate the introduced packet delay in some way, but there are no switches (AFAIK) which can do this with NTP packets, so even if you used hardware time sta

Re: [ntp:questions] Slow convergence loopstats (but nice results)

2013-12-22 Thread Martin Burnicki
Uwe Klein wrote: Martin Burnicki wrote: There are network switches out there which are PTP-aware and also timestamp incoming and outgoing PTP packets to compensate the introduced packet delay in some way, but there are no switches (AFAIK) which can do this with NTP packets, so even if you used h