[ntp:questions] almost decided which new PPS GPS to buy

2012-03-04 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
Hi all, Some of you know from my prior threads that I've been debating what GPS to buy to upgrade from my USB based BU-353. I think I've just about nailed it down, based on a number of conflicting factors. I'm getting + / - 6 ms accuracy now with the BU-353. My goals for the new device are

Re: [ntp:questions] almost decided which new PPS GPS to buy

2012-03-04 Thread David J Taylor
Hi all, [] From my reading, it appears that I need to add the following to the Sure Electronics package of parts: 1) DB-9 Male - DB-9 Female serial cable Correct. I got mine from Amazon. Search for "2m 9 Pin Serial / RS-232 Extension Cable M-F". 2) Motherboard header - DB-9 port adapte

Re: [ntp:questions] almost decided which new PPS GPS to buy

2012-03-04 Thread unruh
On 2012-03-04, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: > Hi all, > > Some of you know from my prior threads that I've been debating what GPS > to buy to upgrade from my USB based BU-353. I think I've just about > nailed it down, based on a number of conflicting factors. > > I'm getting + / - 6 ms accuracy now

Re: [ntp:questions] almost decided which new PPS GPS to buy

2012-03-04 Thread unruh
On 2012-03-04, David J Taylor wrote: >> Hi all, > [] >> From my reading, it appears that I need to add the following to the Sure >> Electronics package of parts: >> >> 1) DB-9 Male - DB-9 Female serial cable > > Correct. I got mine from Amazon. Search for "2m 9 Pin Serial / RS-232 > Extension

Re: [ntp:questions] almost decided which new PPS GPS to buy

2012-03-04 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
Thanks for the info. Comments inline. On 3/4/2012 1:51 PM, David J Taylor wrote: Hi all, [] From my reading, it appears that I need to add the following to the Sure Electronics package of parts: 1) DB-9 Male - DB-9 Female serial cable Correct. I got mine from Amazon. Search for "2m 9 Pi

Re: [ntp:questions] almost decided which new PPS GPS to buy

2012-03-04 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
On 3/4/2012 3:18 PM, unruh wrote: On 2012-03-04, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: Hi all, Some of you know from my prior threads that I've been debating what GPS to buy to upgrade from my USB based BU-353. I think I've just about nailed it down, based on a number of conflicting factors. I'm gett

Re: [ntp:questions] almost decided which new PPS GPS to buy

2012-03-04 Thread David Lord
Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: Hi all, Some of you know from my prior threads that I've been debating what GPS to buy to upgrade from my USB based BU-353. I think I've just about nailed it down, based on a number of conflicting factors. I'm getting + / - 6 ms accuracy now with the BU-353. My goa

Re: [ntp:questions] almost decided which new PPS GPS to buy

2012-03-04 Thread Bruce Lilly
On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 22:37:35 +, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: > I > want to see what the max performance I can get with USB with handshaking > is possible. I think I can break the + / - 1 ms barrier. See http://gpsd.berlios.de/faq.html#time ___ que

Re: [ntp:questions] almost decided which new PPS GPS to buy

2012-03-04 Thread David Lord
Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: .. I may try pulling the signal directly from the PPS directly to DCD as you describe. If it works, the procedure might be a bit simpler. By the way, are the data lines on the serial port of the Sure board running at standard RS-232 levels? The TxD and RxD d

Re: [ntp:questions] almost decided which new PPS GPS to buy

2012-03-04 Thread Dave Hart
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 01:26, David Lord wrote: > You need to use PPS to get lower offsets. I've no idea if > PPS will work via a serial to usb adapter but I'd guess > that it will and you will get an improvement. In general, it won't. The problem is the PPSAPI DCD timestamping needs to be part

Re: [ntp:questions] almost decided which new PPS GPS to buy

2012-03-04 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
On 3/4/2012 6:10 PM, Bruce Lilly wrote: On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 22:37:35 +, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: I want to see what the max performance I can get with USB with handshaking is possible. I think I can break the + / - 1 ms barrier. See http://gpsd.berlios.de/faq.html#time

Re: [ntp:questions] almost decided which new PPS GPS to buy

2012-03-05 Thread David J Taylor
"unruh" wrote in message news:jaQ4r.26824$vr6.8...@newsfe14.iad... [] Again, almost no serial ports need this. They work fine off TTL level. While it is true that the standards say -5 to 5 V almost all accept 0-5V. Now you can try it, and if it does not work, then go for the two wire solution.

Re: [ntp:questions] almost decided which new PPS GPS to buy

2012-03-05 Thread David J Taylor
"Ron Frazier (NTP)" wrote in message news:4f53eeaf.9050...@c3energy.com... [] Interesting that you used a metal box. I guess it doesn't matter since the antenna is external. I think a clear lid might be cool to see the lights. The blue LED is so bright you will want to hide it! A metal

Re: [ntp:questions] almost decided which new PPS GPS to buy

2012-03-05 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Ron Frazier (NTP) said: >2) Motherboard header - DB-9 port adapter Note that there are two different pinouts common for this. IIRC they all have the same mapping of motherboard header pin number to serial port pin number, but one numbers the header pins in rows and the other in

Re: [ntp:questions] almost decided which new PPS GPS to buy

2012-03-05 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
On 3/5/2012 9:45 AM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Ron Frazier (NTP) said: 2) Motherboard header - DB-9 port adapter Note that there are two different pinouts common for this. IIRC they all have the same mapping of motherboard header pin number to serial port pin number, but

Re: [ntp:questions] almost decided which new PPS GPS to buy

2012-03-05 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
On 3/4/2012 5:51 PM, David Lord wrote: Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: Hi all, Some of you know from my prior threads that I've been debating what GPS to buy to upgrade from my USB based BU-353. I think I've just about nailed it down, based on a number of conflicting factors. I'm getting + / - 6

Re: [ntp:questions] almost decided which new PPS GPS to buy

2012-03-05 Thread David Lord
Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: On 3/4/2012 5:51 PM, David Lord wrote: Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: Hi all, Some of you know from my prior threads that I've been debating what GPS to buy to upgrade from my USB based BU-353. I think I've just about nailed it down, based on a number of conflicting facto

Re: [ntp:questions] almost decided which new PPS GPS to buy

2012-03-05 Thread David Lord
Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: On 3/5/2012 9:45 AM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Ron Frazier (NTP) said: 2) Motherboard header - DB-9 port adapter Note that there are two different pinouts common for this. IIRC they all have the same mapping of motherboard header pin number to ser

Re: [ntp:questions] almost decided which new PPS GPS to buy

2012-03-05 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: > C) Get the unit working with NMEA data from the RS-232 port, going to a real > serial port.  I have to tinker with the motherboard on another computer to > do that. You can buy a serial port adaptor card are that fits in a PCI slot. But

Re: [ntp:questions] almost decided which new PPS GPS to buy

2012-03-05 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
On 3/5/2012 12:30 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: C) Get the unit working with NMEA data from the RS-232 port, going to a real serial port. I have to tinker with the motherboard on another computer to do that. You can buy a seria

Re: [ntp:questions] almost decided which new PPS GPS to buy

2012-03-05 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
On 3/5/2012 11:52 AM, David Lord wrote: Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: On 3/5/2012 9:45 AM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Ron Frazier (NTP) said: 2) Motherboard header - DB-9 port adapter Note that there are two different pinouts common for this. IIRC they all have the same mapping of moth