Re: [ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-03-02 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
On 3/1/2012 7:43 PM, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: On 2/29/2012 6:12 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Bruce Lillybruce.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:16:23 +, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: Other than the Sure board which has been mentioned, are there any

Re: [ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-03-01 Thread unruh
On 2012-03-01, David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid wrote: Teh standard is the Gamin GPS 18x (make sure to get a newer unit or you will have to upload a patch to it to fix the problem that it sometimes sends teh nmea sentences too late). The Sure I am getting worried about-- I

[ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-03-01 Thread Chris Albertson
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:59 PM, unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: Whilst the Oncore UT+ which Chris mentions may have better ultimate performance, I don't think you will see the difference in an NTP application on the great majority of PCs. It doesn't come with an Persuading a PC to

Re: [ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-03-01 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
On 2/29/2012 6:12 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Bruce Lillybruce.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:16:23 +, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: Other than the Sure board which has been mentioned, are there any other modern, hi sensitivity, timing

Re: [ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-03-01 Thread unruh
On 2012-03-01, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:59 PM, unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: Whilst the Oncore UT+ which Chris mentions may have better ultimate performance, I don't think you will see the difference in an NTP application on the great

Re: [ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-03-01 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Ron Frazier (NTP) timekeepingntpl...@c3energy.com wrote: A) You said it has to be a timing GPS.  How do you tell?  I haven't seen that term in any of the data sheets. You down load the user manual and read it BEFORE you place an order on the GPS receiver. Also

Re: [ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-03-01 Thread Chris Albertson
Left off the biggest and best source of information. read the source code files for the GPS reference clock drivers that comes with NTP. If there is no ref clock driver you can't use the GPS. But there are liley drivers for every GPS, but do check. How to program the GPS? The NTP ref clock

Re: [ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-03-01 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
OH! There it is. Now I see it. Sincerely, Ron On 3/1/2012 9:15 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: You did not see timing on the data sheet because it was not a timing GPS. Here is the data sheet for the current in-production version of the Oncore (it sells for about $60)

Re: [ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-03-01 Thread unruh
On 2012-03-02, Ron Frazier (NTP) timekeepingntpl...@c3energy.com wrote: On 2/29/2012 6:12 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Bruce Lillybruce.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:16:23 +, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: Other than the Sure board

Re: [ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-02-29 Thread Terje Mathisen
Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: Hi all, Is anyone using the Trimble Resolution T GPS for timing? I was looking at an ad for one on ebay. For my purposes, any accuracy under 1 ms is great. I don't have to have 15 ns. Of course, smaller numbers are always better. Is this device hard to setup and program

Re: [ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-02-29 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
Hi Terje, Thanks for the info. I really want to run my antenna indoors if possible, so this unit might not be for me. It's good to know about the sawtooth correction stuff though. I forgot to post the original link to the Ebay auction. It's item # 260769578277. The link below should

Re: [ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-02-29 Thread unruh
On 2012-02-29, Ron Frazier (NTP) timekeepingntpl...@c3energy.com wrote: Hi all, Is anyone using the Trimble Resolution T GPS for timing? I was looking at an ad for one on ebay. For my purposes, any accuracy under 1 ms is great. I don't have to have 15 ns. Of course, smaller numbers are

Re: [ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-02-29 Thread unruh
On 2012-02-29, Ron Frazier (NTP) timekeepingntpl...@c3energy.com wrote: Hi Terje, Thanks for the info. I really want to run my antenna indoors if possible, so this unit might not be for me. It's good to know about the sawtooth correction stuff though. I forgot to post the original link

Re: [ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-02-29 Thread Chris Albertson
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:56 AM, unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: Timing gpss like the Oncore UT+ sends the known PPS offset as part of the serial timestream, telling NTPD (or any other recipient) how early/late

Re: [ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-02-29 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
On 2/29/2012 12:45 AM, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: Hi all, Is anyone using the Trimble Resolution T GPS for timing? I was looking at an ad for one on ebay. For my purposes, any accuracy under 1 ms is great. I don't have to have 15 ns. Of course, smaller numbers are always better. Is this device

Re: [ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-02-29 Thread John Hasler
Richard B. Gilbert writes: ISTR that only three satellites are required to determine the location of your antenna. Only if you already know either one of your three space cooordinates or the time. Four equations, four unknowns. Once this position is accurately known, you can live with a

Re: [ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-02-29 Thread Bruce Lilly
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:16:23 +, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: Other than the Sure board which has been mentioned, are there any other modern, hi sensitivity, timing GPS's which cost less than $ 100. Many of the ones mentioned seem to be older technology like this Trimble. I use a Garmin 17x

Re: [ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-02-29 Thread Chris Albertson
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Bruce Lilly bruce.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:16:23 +, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: Other than the Sure board which has been mentioned, are there any other modern, hi sensitivity, timing GPS's which cost less than $ 100.  Many of the ones

Re: [ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-02-29 Thread unruh
On 2012-02-29, Richard B. Gilbert rgilber...@comcast.net wrote: On 2/29/2012 12:45 AM, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: Hi all, Is anyone using the Trimble Resolution T GPS for timing? I was looking at an ad for one on ebay. For my purposes, any accuracy under 1 ms is great. I don't have to have 15

Re: [ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-02-29 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
unruh wrote: I have records from about 38 satellites all of which were tracked at one time or another by my system. IIRC, there have been something like 63 GPS SVs; some never made it into orbit, others decommissioned, failed, testing, ... 31 GPs SVs currently in use, although one of

Re: [ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-02-29 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
BlackList wrote: unruh wrote: I have records from about 38 satellites all of which were tracked at one time or another by my system. IIRC, there have been something like 63 GPS SVs; -^ NAVSTAR some never made it into orbit, others decommissioned,

Re: [ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-02-29 Thread David J Taylor
unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote in message news:EOy3r.7458$_63.7...@newsfe19.iad... On 2012-02-29, Richard B. Gilbert rgilber...@comcast.net wrote: [] The last time I heard there were something like 27 GPS satellites in service. There are usually something like 8 satellites above the horizon.

Re: [ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-02-29 Thread David J Taylor
Teh standard is the Gamin GPS 18x (make sure to get a newer unit or you will have to upload a patch to it to fix the problem that it sometimes sends teh nmea sentences too late). The Sure I am getting worried about-- I thin kthe antenna they send with it is defective sometimes. Bill, Yours is

[ntp:questions] how do you like the Trimble Resolution T

2012-02-28 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
Hi all, Is anyone using the Trimble Resolution T GPS for timing? I was looking at an ad for one on ebay. For my purposes, any accuracy under 1 ms is great. I don't have to have 15 ns. Of course, smaller numbers are always better. Is this device hard to setup and program for PPS and use