Re: [R-sig-Geo] kriging

2008-07-03 Thread Dave Depew
Hi All, I had a look at the paper suggested by Edzer. Some of my data is of similar nature (% cover rather than direct counts; but many zeroes in the data set). It is difficult to assess the presence of trends with this variable due to 1) a limited number of covariates (i.e x,y, and depth) but

Re: [R-sig-Geo] Impact of ArcGIS 8.3 beta's new spatial statistical functions in its Spatial Analyst Extension

2008-07-03 Thread David Hugh-Jones
Maybe this would be an appropriate time to mention http://wiki.r-project.org/rwiki/doku.php?id=tips:spatial-data:when_to_use How would list members answer this question? David Hugh-Jones PhD Candidate Essex University Department of Government http://davidhughjones.googlepages.com 2008/7/3 John

Re: [R-sig-Geo] Impact of ArcGIS 8.3 beta's new spatial statistical functions in its Spatial Analyst Extension

2008-07-03 Thread John Callahan
I agree. It's difficult to see any reason that someone who currently uses R/GRASS would go to ESRI for spatial statistics. I come from a long history as an ESRI user with an interest in spatial stats. As others have said, ArcGIS may give you the basics quickly and easily, but it is limited a

Re: [R-sig-Geo] Impact of ArcGIS 8.3 beta's new spatial statistical functions in its Spatial Analyst Extension

2008-07-03 Thread Thomas . Adams
Paul, Not to mention the huge cost of ESRI products and the fact that they run only on the MS-Windows platform. R also integrates well with GRASS GIS. Personally, I can not see any compelling reasons to go the ESRI route vs R/GRASS… I feel a great debt of gratitude to the selfless developers of

Re: [R-sig-Geo] Impact of ArcGIS 8.3 beta's new spatial statistical functions in its Spatial Analyst Extension

2008-07-03 Thread Paul Hiemstra
Dear Hisaji, I think that the choice of people for R is not only based on the fact that a certain method is only available in R. R is much more flexible in working with data, allows scripting, allows you to see exactly how a method works, allows you to extend or develop methods and if you writ

Re: [R-sig-Geo] Impact of ArcGIS 8.3 beta's new spatial statistical functions in its Spatial Analyst Extension

2008-07-03 Thread Edzer Pebesma
Of course ESRI is trying to cover a wider field, as it has always done. Quite a few versions ago they started with a geostatistical analyst, which is used by many, but hasn't led to a decrease of interest in using R for geostatistical purposes, is my impression. It has some very nice features,

Re: [R-sig-Geo] kriging

2008-07-03 Thread Edzer Pebesma
Hengl, T. wrote: > I agree with Paulo - gstat can work with any linear model including the > transforms of the original predictors e.g.: > > Z ~ X + X^2 + Y + Y^2etc. > > The problem is that gstat implements the so-called > Kriging-with-external-trend algorithm to make predictions (see sectio

Re: [R-sig-Geo] Impact of ArcGIS 8.3 beta's new spatial statistical functions in its Spatial Analyst Extension

2008-07-03 Thread Dimitris
Hi list (first post) This new spatial analyst extension from ESRI looks promising and interesting. Nice stuff. I believe we use R and it's geographical abilities not only because it is robust and programmaticaly efficient as well as an investment on ourself, but also because we do support open

[R-sig-Geo] Impact of ArcGIS 8.3 beta's new spatial statistical functions in its Spatial Analyst Extension

2008-07-03 Thread Hisaji ONO
Hi. What do you think about ArcGIS 8.3's new statistical functions(Calculation of spatial or network, GWR, Global/Local Moran, Gi etc.) in its Spatial Analyst Extension described in http://webhelp.esri.com/arcgisdesktop/9.3/pdf/Whats_New_In_ArcGIS_93.pdf? Current R's spdep's and spgwr's and oth