Hi Ryan,
I think it might be worth thinking about (if you haven't) what kind of
lifecycle / niche the book is intended to have, because I suspect that's a
good way to make decisions about which things to include or expand on, and
which to ignore - especially in the ruby world, where things move so
oh and one actual idea, obvious though it may be: you could wait and see how
the votes at http://rails3book.uservoice.com/forums/52219-general pan out,
and then try to draw together a bunch of the most requested (or coolest)
topics into an unifying theme.
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On 20 April 2010 17:01, David Lee wrote:
> Hi Ryan,
>
> Greetings David,
> I think it might be worth thinking about (if you haven't) what kind of
> lifecycle / niche the book is intended to have, because I suspect that's a
> good way to make decisions about which things to include or expand on,
On 20 April 2010 17:17, Ryan Bigg wrote:
> The book will touch on some useful
> gems such as the afore mentioned cucumber and rspec, as well as factory girl
> for generating test data, aasm for a state machine and delayed_job for...
> delayed jobs.
*coughmachinistcough*
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On 20 April 2010 17:38, Pete Yandell wrote:
> On 20 April 2010 17:17, Ryan Bigg wrote:
> > The book will touch on some useful
> > gems such as the afore mentioned cucumber and rspec, as well as factory
> girl
> > for generating test data, aasm for a state machine and delayed_job for...
> > delay
Thanks, it seems you've got a pretty clear plan. Dealing with just one
application for an entire book is a cool idea - good opportunity there for
dealing with some of the issues which come up as an application gets larger,
and they should build pretty naturally on one another towards the advanced
s
> If you want to delve deep into the core of Rails and present a coherent
> picture of how it fits together, it'll likely have more currency in a year
> or three than, say, if you conducted a broad survey of the best gems and
> plugins around for particular tasks. Do you want this to be something y
On 20 April 2010 17:46, Dave Bolton wrote:
> > If you want to delve deep into the core of Rails and present a coherent
> > picture of how it fits together, it'll likely have more currency in a
> year
> > or three than, say, if you conducted a broad survey of the best gems and
> > plugins around f
sidebar narrative: chronicle the series of (fictional) plugins which do
@feature that the programmers go through as they adopt, patch, adapt, swap
out, rewrite, and finally re-implement completely, as the requirements
around @feature change and grow, until finally, triumphant, they release
their ow
An opportunity to build a facebook app for a prestigious client here in
Australia (I'd work for them anyhow) has come up for a dev shop in Sydney or
Melbourne.
You need to have *at least* one serious facebook app under your belt and it
does involve some OpenSocial work. Seems like an interesting p
Hi,
I've got a mate who owns a fancy pub with a wide range of beers on tap so
sure to appeal to this crowd :-)
The pub makes really good pizzas which they have started delivering. They'd
like a quote on an iPhone app (and associated kitchen backend) for people to
order the pizzas - and given how
Hi Ben.
You may also want to try posting on the cocoaheads group.
It might be a bit more of an appropriate audience.
http://groups.google.com/group/cocoaheadsau?hl=en_US
On Apr 20, 9:45 pm, Ben Sand wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've got a mate who owns a fancy pub with a wide range of beers on tap so
> su
Thanks Ben, much appreciated.
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Ben Schwarz wrote:
> Hi Ben.
>
> You may also want to try posting on the cocoaheads group.
> It might be a bit more of an appropriate audience.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/cocoaheadsau?hl=en_US
>
>
> On Apr 20, 9:45 pm, Ben Sa
Hello all,
One of the services we use is recaptcha... and without it, potentially no
new user can sign up among other parts of the site. (Last night we couldn't
reach the recaptcha service or 50% of the net for that matter as a pipe was
down!)
So if the recaptcha service (or any other service tha
Just had an idea pop up in the CLEAR office for some of the next ruby meet ups.
Let's have a debate, using a real debate format.
No-SQL vs. SQL
Haml vs. Erb
Etc.
Let's get smart people voicing their opinions or those forced upon them by the
team they are in.
A refreshing change from talks? T
I think this is an awesome idea. Sledging for 2 minutes with a 30 second
rebuttal :)
-glen.
Sent from my computer, but I also have an iPad and would like to tell you
about it in my email signature.
On 21 April 2010 12:10, Gareth Townsend wrote:
> Just had an idea pop up in the CLEAR office for
How about a festival of dangerous ideas?
Andrew
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Glen Maddern wrote:
> I think this is an awesome idea. Sledging for 2 minutes with a 30 second
> rebuttal :)
> -glen.
>
> Sent from my computer, but I also have an iPad and would like to tell you
> about it in my e
It would be a good thought if it wasn't composed on an ipad ;)
- luke
On 21 Apr 2010 12:10, "Gareth Townsend" wrote:
Just had an idea pop up in the CLEAR office for some of the next ruby meet
ups.
Let's have a debate, using a real debate format.
No-SQL vs. SQL
Haml vs. Erb
Etc.
Let's get sm
"festival of dangerous ideas" - sounds brilliant as a theme/premise for an
entire conference
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Andrew Grimm wrote:
> How about a festival of dangerous ideas?
>
> Andrew
>
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Glen Maddern
> wrote:
> > I think this is an awesome idea
The MySQL vs Postgres debate popped-up a few months ago. It would be
interesting to talk about that too.
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On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Gareth Townsend
wrote:
> Just had an idea pop up in the CLEAR office for some of the next ruby meet
> ups.
>
> Let's have a d
Not a bad idea Gareth. I'd think the key to success would be to pick a
few topics and have either a panel for each view or just *some method*
of knowing that there would be a strong, organised, pre-conceptualised
opinion for the rebuttal.
It could be very interesting, but given no prior-thought, i
2010/4/21 Gareth Townsend
> Just had an idea pop up in the CLEAR office for some of the next ruby meet
> ups.
>
> Let's have a debate, using a real debate format.
>
> No-SQL vs. SQL
> Haml vs. Erb
>
Really awesome idea. I look forward to referring to Schwarz as "my esteemed
opponent" during a HA
Oh my god. This idea rocks and the "Festival of Dangerous Ideas" is just
perfect as a title.
On 21 April 2010 12:23, Ben Schwarz wrote:
> Not a bad idea Gareth. I'd think the key to success would be to pick a
> few topics and have either a panel for each view or just *some method*
> of knowing
Is there going to be an April one? Or are youse all hacked out?
Andrew
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I'm stealing that name.
Not sent from my iPad
On 21/04/2010, at 12:20 PM, Dr Nic Williams wrote:
> "festival of dangerous ideas" - sounds brilliant as a theme/premise for an
> entire conference
>
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Andrew Grimm
> wrote:
> How about a festival of dangerous i
Hi there!
I'm in the process of deciding between various libraries for test data
generation. The obvious popular ones that have popped up are factory
girl and machinist.
I found this post in the intertoobs:
http://toolmantim.com/thoughts/fixtureless_datas_with_machinist_and_sham
Which has brough
Hey Jono,
My only feedback is to use the various ones and see what you think.
I use Machinist, but you might like FG.
It's up to you!
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On 21/04/2010, at 12:33 PM, Jono wrote:
Hi there!
I'm in the process of deciding between various libraries for test data
generation. The obvious popu
On 21/04/2010, at 12:51 PM, Tim Lucas wrote:
Hey Jono,
My only feedback is to use the various ones and see what you think.
I use Machinist, but you might like FG.
It's up to you!
Apologies, I saw the link to the article and assumed it was addressed
to me.
Rant away :)
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Jono wrote:
> Does anyone know if there any significant differences between the two
> libraries apart from syntax that make one stand out from the other?
There's at least one significant difference, Machinist is by Pete
Yandell ('our Pete').
Piffle at technical merits, buy Australian! :)
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At Railscamp I think he mentioned that he was working on Machinist 2,
looking forward to checking it out!
Jonathan
On 21 April 2010 12:55, James Healy wrote:
> Jono wrote:
> > Does anyone know if there any significant differences between the two
> > libraries apart from syntax that make one sta
Using machinist for a few projects at the moment (mainly because it's pretty
useful, not just cause Pete Yandell would give me a disapproving sneer if I
didn't :P )
On 21 April 2010 12:59, Jonathan Clarke wrote:
> At Railscamp I think he mentioned that he was working on Machinist 2,
> looking fo
Another +1 to Machinist, use it everywhere. Not because Pete is awesome, but
I prefer the syntax for defining named blueprints over named factories.
On 21 April 2010 13:13, Julian Doherty wrote:
> Using machinist for a few projects at the moment (mainly because it's
> pretty useful, not just cau
Agreed - I find the syntax of Machinist to be far nicer than Factory Girl. And
there are some *awesome* improvements coming in Machinist v2.
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On 21/04/2010, at 1:30 PM, Ryan Bigg wrote:
> Another +1 to Machinist, use it everywhere. Not because Pete is awesome, but
> I prefer the syntax
I should clarify what I mean by syntax, sorry. By syntax I mean that in
factory_girl you can do this to define a named factory:
Factory.define :admin, :class => User do |u|
u.admin true
end
This gives you access to Factory(:admin). But now think about it like this:
say you want to
Our next hack night will be April 27; next Tuesday. I'm just sorting
out the details with Agency Rainford, who have graciously offered to
host on Tuesday. Stay tuned.
-g
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Andrew Grimm wrote:
> Is there going to be an April one? Or are youse all hacked out?
>
>
E.g.:
Factory.define :user do |user|
user.name { Faker::Name.name }
user.admin false
end
Example specs:
it 'something that has to do with an admin' do
admin = Factory :user, :admin => true
admin.should foobar
end
it 'something to do with a regular user'
user = Factory :user
user.sh
It's handled identically: User.make(:admin => true)
On 21 April 2010 13:56, Julio Cesar Ody wrote:
> E.g.:
>
> Factory.define :user do |user|
> user.name { Faker::Name.name }
> user.admin false
> end
>
> Example specs:
>
> it 'something that has to do with an admin' do
> admin = Factory :use
Ok thanks for the tips!
I actually realised that it was aussi made when I saw RORO in Tim's
post and looked into it a little further :-) But I'm a kiwi! So I'll
have to wait till the next big sports event to apply a weighting
either way :-P
Although I admit that secretly on the inside we might be
@Ryan
have you used FG with the machinist syntax?
i.e. take a look at the "Alternate Syntaxes" section in here:
http://github.com/thoughtbot/factory_girl
Do you know if FG still suffers from the same issues under the hood
once you switch syntaxes? I'll probably spike this anyway but I'm just
cur
On 21 April 2010 14:04, Jono wrote:
> @Ryan
>
> have you used FG with the machinist syntax?
>
>
No I haven't, as I mentioned previously I use Machinist everywhere so I'm
more familiar with that than Factory Girl. But now that you've mentioned it
I do recall it does have that kind of syntax, but w
Hi Jono
No blog posts yet - it's something that Pete's been working on, especially at
Rails Camp this past weekend. If you have a look at an older thread, at the
last email, you'll get some idea - Ben and Xavier's work has been an influence
in Machinist's current development.
http://groups.goo
Hi all,
I know many #rorosyd peeps were at the first Lean Startup Circle event
at Bar 333 in March, so just a quick FYI on an upcoming event (Lean
Startup conference), that is likely to be of interest to RoRO peeps...
The conference itself is being held in San Francisco on Sat 24th,
however there
On 21/04/2010, at 12:40 PM, Gareth Townsend wrote:
I'm stealing that name.
The Sydney Opera House already has a Festival of Dangerous Ideas, so
consider it stolen.
Cheers,
Nathan
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Awesome.
Two other people added their names while I was adding mine. Let's see
if we can get it booked out in one hour!
Andrew
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Gabe Hollombe wrote:
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A big thanks to Agency Rainford for hosting and to Gabe for organising in my
absence.
So far we've been lucky enough to have some wonderfully generous hosts for the
first few Hack Nights:
- ThoughtWorks
- Snepo Research
- Plus2
- Tutoring Australasia
- Agency Rainford
Swapping location each mo
Yup I'll be there to help out with Rails lighthouse tickets!
On 21 April 2010 14:56, Gabe Hollombe wrote:
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> I plan on spending my time looking at tickets in the Rails Lighthouse
Ryan,
How about you put together a list of a few tickets that we might make
a reasonable stab at fixing during hack night? You'd probably have a
better idea of what's achievable than most of us. I'm guessing that
most of us at hack night haven't yet contributed to Rails (I speak for
myself) and
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