Re: [rails-oceania] MVC Architecture for JavaScript Applications

2011-02-27 Thread Gareth Townsend
Everyone heading down this path should read up on why Hash Bang URL's suck: http://isolani.co.uk/blog/javascript/BreakingTheWebWithHashBangs On 26/02/2011, at 6:20 PM, Korny Sietsma wrote: > I saw this - it ties in with a lot of thinking I've had lately. > > I have a talk half planned on the f

Re: [rails-oceania] MVC Architecture for JavaScript Applications

2011-02-27 Thread Julio Cesar Ody
What sucks is when the difference between a web application and a web page isn't clear, and people throw a technique out on the account of that. And for the record: were Gawker they using pushState instead, the problem would've happened anyway. Except we don't see this API getting criticism becaus

Re: [rails-oceania] MVC Architecture for JavaScript Applications

2011-02-27 Thread Julio Cesar Ody
Ah, and before anyone says that pushState means the server will get actual URLs on request, and thus it can render content regardless of JS, I get that. What I'm saying is that the single point of failure they introduced by having their web app/page hybrid sort of thing rely on hashbangs can also

Re: [rails-oceania] MVC Architecture for JavaScript Applications

2011-02-27 Thread Ivan Vanderbyl
Hi Korny, Adding to your list of libraries, I came across http://www.javascriptmvc.com yesterday. – Ivan On 26/02/2011, at 6:20 PM, Korny Sietsma wrote: > I saw this - it ties in with a lot of thinking I've had lately. > > I have a talk half planned on the future of web development - my perso

Re: [rails-oceania] MVC Architecture for JavaScript Applications

2011-02-27 Thread Samuel Richardson
I want to throw my two cents in for Backbone.js. It's not strictly MVC (Model - View - "Collection") but I've used it with some really great results in my applications. I don't have anything online just yet that's using it but I will soon if you want to see examples. The greatest benefit I've had

Re: [rails-oceania] MVC Architecture for JavaScript Applications

2011-02-27 Thread Korny Sietsma
... and also the rather more sensible (and linked from the below) pages at: http://blog.benward.me/post/3231388630 and http://www.adequatelygood.com/2011/2/Thoughts-on-the-Hashbang from folks at