[RBW] Re: All-Rounder Deal - Anyone dig 26 here?

2010-01-05 Thread Marty
Good discussion all! Almost makes me think I should have bid higher on that AR...Maybe it's not too late for Riv to consider a 559/59+cm version of the new Atlantis? (I'll take a 62 please) I recall an earlier Reader that had a nice article about cycle aesthetics, and I pretty much agreed with all

Re: [RBW] Re: All-Rounder Deal - Anyone dig 26 here?

2010-01-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 19:12 -0800, Justin August wrote: Well, Matthew Grimm recently pushed the 650b version of the Kogswell P/ R to Anthony @ Longleaf so MG could focus on a 26 wheeled version for the foreseeable future. Yes, as I recall what he said, he's concentrating on a market that has

[RBW] Re: Anyone dig 26 here?

2010-01-05 Thread Bruce
My Ram (52cm) came with 26 wheels so that the frame geometry would be better than with 700s, per GP's notes when the bike was still for sale on the RBW site. Since then, I purchased a second set of 26 wheels which can carry bigger tires than the stock Arrayas or go on another bike. Just for

[RBW] Re: the long road to my first Rivendell

2010-01-05 Thread jpp
That is a really nice looking sam, probably one of the nicer builds I have seen! Just when I thought I was over getting a sam! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: the long road to my first Rivendell

2010-01-05 Thread doc
What front derailleur are you using? I have a similar setup, but have issues with the tire clearance. thx. On Jan 4, 11:22 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I bought a Hillborne a couple of months ago, built it up for commuting and mixed road/off-road riding, and have been loving

[RBW] Re: the long road to my first Rivendell

2010-01-05 Thread Earl Grey
It's an IRD compact I had lying around. I am actually not that happy with it. It requires severe overshifting to go from granny to the middle ring (ramped, brand-new Sugino rings) regardless of which gear I am in in the back. Anyone know if I can tweak the setup to improve it? Pretty much followed

[RBW] OT But Fun - How Riv Customers are Made

2010-01-05 Thread JoelMatthews
Was on Spectrum looking for pictures of my bike. None there, but did find this: http://www.spectrumpowderworks.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4t=101 What is not to love? Lugs, double crown plate, King headset, can't make out the front hub, but it looks like the real deal. Kid is definitely going

[RBW] Re: the long road to my first Rivendell

2010-01-05 Thread doug peterson
Earl: What ring sizes are you using? dougP On Jan 5, 7:39 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: It's an IRD compact I had lying around. I am actually not that happy with it. It requires severe overshifting to go from granny to the middle ring (ramped, brand-new Sugino rings) regardless of

Re: [RBW] OT But Fun - How Riv Customers are Made

2010-01-05 Thread Jon Grant
Oh my. Ohmy. I was just thinking about the logistics of learning to make bike frames so I could keep my kids in bikes throughout their lives. Seeing this makes me so envious. What power. What intensity. What talent. Oh my. OT or not, thank you for posting, Joel. Happy New Year! -- Jon ³Papa²

[RBW] Re: Now: IT Band Was: Goals for 2010

2010-01-05 Thread Patrick in VT
On Jan 4, 9:50 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I meant this: is standing on steep climbs, or, IOW, standing and doing low cadence, high torque pedalling, bad for you knees? Is it any different from stair stepping? I don't see how stair stepping is comparable unless you're taking a

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone dig 26 here?

2010-01-05 Thread cyclotourist
A 26 wheeled Ram with two sets of wheels (light go fast/heavy trail use) sounds like an awesome bike! Rivendell has been so invested in 650B I forget they have 26 bikes also. On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: My Ram (52cm) came with 26 wheels so that the frame

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone dig 26 here?

2010-01-05 Thread Jon Grant
cyclotourist wrote: A 26 wheeled Ram with two sets of wheels (light go fast/heavy trail use) sounds like an awesome bike!  Rivendell has been so invested in 650B I forget they have 26 bikes also. --- I rode with an RBW listmember a couple of weeks ago, Sean O¹Bryan. He rode a

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadeo or Other

2010-01-05 Thread Patrick in VT
On Jan 4, 4:54 pm, sjauch sja...@gmail.com wrote: They have 2 55cm's built up and I'm a 52 or 53, so even though It's not my size I can hopefully still get an idea of how it rides. you might find that a 55 is exactly what rivendell recommends. have a look at riv's sizing/fit philosophy and be

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadeo or Other

2010-01-05 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
There is always some risk in a custom bike because every custom is one- of-a-kind, and there are no prototypes, etc to work out the bugs before the customer pays the bill and takes the frame/bike. And if you don't like it, a custom can be tough to sell. Rivendell has the advantage of having

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone dig 26 here?

2010-01-05 Thread cyclotourist
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote: cyclotourist wrote: A 26 wheeled Ram with two sets of wheels (light go fast/heavy trail use) sounds like an awesome bike! Rivendell has been so invested in 650B I forget they have 26 bikes also. --- I rode with

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone dig 26 here?

2010-01-05 Thread Bruce
Yeah, something about the motor making more of a difference From: cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com Also, he had no problem wielding it to wax my ass on every uphill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] WTB:or Trade Saluki frame

2010-01-05 Thread hobie
Looking to trade or buy a 58cm Saluki frame.I currently ride a 56cm Saluki school bus yellow paint scheme and since purchasing a 58cm Rambouillet have found that the 56cm is to small for me.Anyone out there who has a similar dilema please contact me. Thanks james -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: All-Rounder Deal - Anyone dig 26 here?

2010-01-05 Thread Swashbuckling Dandy
Go Beth! You nailed it. Thank you for reminding me that when I bought my first mountain bike 18 years ago, I sold my Raleigh Team USA for $100 in order to make it happen. After years of fussing about this brake or that tire or what saddle works best for under $200, it's easy to forget what reality

Re: [RBW] WTB:or Trade Saluki frame

2010-01-05 Thread Timothy Whalen
Hobie, How are you liking the Rambouillet? Tim On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:23 AM, hobie moho1...@yahoo.com wrote: Looking to trade or buy a 58cm Saluki frame.I currently ride a 56cm Saluki school bus yellow paint scheme and since purchasing a 58cm Rambouillet have found that the 56cm is to

[RBW] Re: the long road to my first Rivendell

2010-01-05 Thread JGS
Congrats on the new bike. I have one question though. Isn't the Hillborne just as heavy as the Atlantis? I thought it was made out of the same gauge tubing and the which bike for what .pdf on the riv site says it's just as tourable. Just curious as to whether this is true or not. Thanks! On

[RBW] Re: All-Rounder Deal - Anyone dig 26 here?

2010-01-05 Thread JoelMatthews
Even at that price, a good many of the folks for whom it would be an ideal bike consider it beyond their reach or even outrageously expensive. Perhaps unfortunately so beyond the reach of some, but not outrageously. There is nothing outrageous about paying a fair price for quality built by

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadeo or Other

2010-01-05 Thread JoelMatthews
Good points, Jim. I am 50/50 on customs. One worked great for me (until a blasted truck ran over it) the other not so well. I keep coming back, but I am in a position where maybe that is not so hard for me. A Riv is a pretty good candidate for someone's first good bike (or second, third, or

Re: [RBW] Re: All-Rounder Deal - Anyone dig 26 here?

2010-01-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 12:08 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Even at that price, a good many of the folks for whom it would be an ideal bike consider it beyond their reach or even outrageously expensive. Perhaps unfortunately so beyond the reach of some, but not outrageously.

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadeo or Other

2010-01-05 Thread sjauch
Thanks all for the for the input, keep it coming. I am leaning towards the Roadeo (digging the white blue) and will see what the Riv crew says when I pay them a visit. I've visited them before and appreciate their honesty. Jim: Grant's knowledge and experience is another comforting factor as

[RBW] Re: January Calendar

2010-01-05 Thread RoadieRyan
Thanks Eric - very cool pic of the QB by the way thanks for sharing On Jan 4, 1:30 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Here it is: https://rcpt.yousendit.com/798181952/ac2521f0bae5b412eab7c1e305d4cbb8 On Jan 4, 2010, at 1:27 PM, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: the long road to my first Rivendell

2010-01-05 Thread CycloFiend
on 1/5/10 11:05 AM, JGS at jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote: Congrats on the new bike. I have one question though. Isn't the Hillborne just as heavy as the Atlantis? I thought it was made out of the same gauge tubing and the which bike for what .pdf on the riv site says it's just as tourable.

Re: [RBW] Re: Now: IT Band Was: Goals for 2010

2010-01-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks, Patrick; I do appreciate your reply. I should have been more clear about what I meant by stair stepping: I have in mind those machines that people use in gyms, and the real thrust of my question was that, although sitting and shoving a pedal over in too high a gear is by all accounts, and

[RBW] FW: It's here

2010-01-05 Thread Frederick, Steve
The last of the 52cm, 650b Quickbeams is mine, all mine! The color really suits the name: http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738...@n08/4248168665/sizes/l/ (don't worry, that's not where my seat will be when I ride it) Steve woohoo! Frederick, East Lansing, MI -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: the long road to my first Rivendell

2010-01-05 Thread EricP
Not as far as I can tell. Haven't weighed the two bikes (and that would be meaningless due to totally different builds). But my Hillborne definitely feels lighter. Not only in picking it up but also while riding. And, in theory if not actual fact, my Hillborne should be a touch heavier. They

Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2010

2010-01-05 Thread Sean Whelan
The CO is flat, straight and not very interesting riding. (And when we did it in 2006, it was in rough shape in some stretches. The GAP offers varied terrain, beautiful scenery, and nice places to stop along the way. If you have the time, I'd recommend riding from Pittsburgh to DC in 4 or 5

[RBW] Re: FW: It's here

2010-01-05 Thread Jim M.
Congratulations! The QB is a great and versatile bike. Mine is about to metamorphose into its 3rd incarnation. jim mather walnut creek ca On Jan 5, 11:52 am, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: The last of the 52cm, 650b Quickbeams is mine, all mine!  The color really suits the

Re: [RBW] Re: FW: It's here

2010-01-05 Thread James Warren
Mine's about to complete its transition from stock to shiftable 2-speed to shiftable 3-speed (current) to shiftable 15-speed with derailleurs front and rear and bar-end shifters. I'll post photos if all goes well. (I'm still waiting for the wheel.) For all intents and purposes it might be

[RBW] Re: FW: It's here

2010-01-05 Thread Justin August
Love the sidepulls! I am secretly hoping the SimpleOne will have that setup later this year... On Jan 5, 2:52 pm, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: The last of the 52cm, 650b Quickbeams is mine, all mine!  The color really suits the name:

[RBW] Re: FW: It's here

2010-01-05 Thread Justin August
Love the sidepulls! I am secretly hoping the SimpleOne will have that setup later this year... On Jan 5, 2:52 pm, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: The last of the 52cm, 650b Quickbeams is mine, all mine!  The color really suits the name:

[RBW] Re: Now: IT Band Was: Goals for 2010

2010-01-05 Thread Patrick in VT
On Jan 5, 2:47 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Patrick; I do appreciate your reply. well, I hope some one can give you a more definitive answer. and i certainly don't want to be discouraging - I also ride fixed gear, and often push a bigger gear than I probably should. but

Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2010

2010-01-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 13:22 -0800, Sean Whelan wrote: The CO is flat, straight and not very interesting riding. (And when we did it in 2006, it was in rough shape in some stretches. The GAP offers varied terrain, beautiful scenery, and nice places to stop along the way. If you have the

Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2010

2010-01-05 Thread Sean Whelan
Sorry, I live in Pittsburgh, and the tendency here is to refer to any city within 25 miles of Pittsburgh as Pittsburgh. We started at Little Boston. Did overnight stays in Confluence, PA Cumberland, MD Hancock, MD Harper's Ferry, WV That route gives you 60 - 70 miles per day. Would do it

Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2010

2010-01-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 14:11 -0800, Sean Whelan wrote: Sorry, I live in Pittsburgh, and the tendency here is to refer to any city within 25 miles of Pittsburgh as Pittsburgh... We started at Little Boston. Did overnight stays in Confluence, PA Cumberland, MD Hancock, MD Harper's Ferry,

Re: [RBW] FW: It's here

2010-01-05 Thread Robert F. Harrison
If I didn't have a brand new QB I'd be jealous. ;-) [Admittedly 52cm is way too small for me so I don't have any designs on yours.] That's a sweet bike. I think you'll find it's a great riding bike. Enjoy! Aloha. Bob On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Frederick, Steve

RE: [RBW] It's here

2010-01-05 Thread Frederick, Steve
Updated pics added--pretty much set with the exception of bar tape, fenders and a nicer saddle bag. I want to take it for a test spin to check the brake lever position and such before I tape it up. http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738...@n08/4248795965/sizes/l/ The point of the seat tube lug

RE: [RBW] It's here

2010-01-05 Thread James Warren
Beautiful bike. It almost looks perfect with bare bars. -Original Message- From: Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu Sent: Jan 5, 2010 6:43 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [RBW] It's here Updated pics added--pretty much set with the exception of bar tape,

[RBW] Pickups for SF Folks?

2010-01-05 Thread William Henderson
I like to go to Riv now and then, but it's an expensive BART ticket from SF and quite a bit of time if I'm just getting an odd part or two. On the other hand, I don't want to pay shipping for a cheap part nor do I like the idea of packaging and trucking a part that I can carry in my pocket home.

Re: [RBW] Pickups for SF Folks?

2010-01-05 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:12 PM, William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com wrote: I like to go to Riv now and then, but it's an expensive BART ticket from SF and quite a bit of time if I'm just getting an odd part or two. On the other hand, I don't want to pay shipping for a cheap part

[RBW] Re: the long road to my first Rivendell

2010-01-05 Thread Earl Grey
24-36-48 stock Sugino rings on an XD2R crankset. Brand new. SRAM 9 speed chain, also brand new. Gernot On Jan 5, 11:10 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Earl: What ring sizes are you using? dougP On Jan 5, 7:39 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: It's an IRD compact I

[RBW] Re: the long road to my first Rivendell

2010-01-05 Thread Earl Grey
I think the Hillborne is lighter, but to a degree that is insignificant (it has a lower weight-limit if you follow the chart). Though I do think it may be more sprightly in its handling. I am not saying that my reasons for not getting an Atlantis were all reasonable. :) In the end it came down to

[RBW] Re: the long road to my first Rivendell

2010-01-05 Thread Earl Grey
From the Hillborne description at rivbike: The Sam Hillborne is [...] a cross between the Atlantis, our cantilever-braked touring bike, and the A. Homer HIlsen, our roadish country bike. It's a cross... means it has tubing halfway in between the two (in wall thickness...); has the canti-brakes

[RBW] Re: Now: IT Band Was: Goals for 2010

2010-01-05 Thread LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com
Hi All!   I’m joining this one late, again… and once again, this will likely be lengthy…   IT Band trouble is rarely a primary cause of knee pain, or an independently occurring malady. Unfortunately, there are no very good studies of IT band syndrome. For instance, some researchers have found that

Re: [RBW] Re: Now: IT Band Was: Goals for 2010

2010-01-05 Thread cyclotourist
Cool, thanks for the info, Lyle. Xrays show I'm knock-kneed a bit. Also have scoliosis curve which tilts my left shoulder down toward my left hip a bit. Dr. suggested moving my heel in a bit and saddle down a bit, does that sound like valid advice Others have suggested widening the crank

[RBW] Re: Now: IT Band Was: Goals for 2010

2010-01-05 Thread LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com
David, You've certainly got a number of variables at work here… do you have pain in both knees? The scoliosis will likely affect the orientation of your pelvis in the saddle, specifically I'd anticipate that your pelvis would be somewhat rotated so the left hip/leg will be forward of the right.

[RBW] Re: Now: IT Band Was: Goals for 2010

2010-01-05 Thread LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com
ooops! ... femoral antervsion,... that's femoral anteversion :) On Jan 5, 8:28 pm, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com lylebog...@gmail.com wrote: David, You've certainly got a number of variables at work here… do you have pain in both knees? The scoliosis will likely affect the orientation of your

[RBW] Re: the long road to my first Rivendell

2010-01-05 Thread kps
One tube thicker here, one tube thinner there, it may weigh the same, but the tubing choices were different. ok, so i'm curiousjust what does a fully built (regular setup, nothing extra heavy OR extra light) Sam Hillborne weigh? also, the AHH? no racks, with fenders. kim -- You received

[RBW] Re: the long road to my first Rivendell

2010-01-05 Thread Michael_S
Isn't the IRD front derailleur designed to work with compact double cranksets? That may be the issue. You probably should get a front derailleur designed for a triple. I'm building my new Hillborne with a NOS Suntour XC pro front derailleur but I'm still awaiting my new Paul canti's so I haven't

[RBW] Help open City of L.A. trails to bikes

2010-01-05 Thread cyclotourist
Consider taking a few moments to submit support of opening dirt trails withing the city to cyclists: Comment period ends Jan 8. More info here: http://www.corbamtb.com/campaigns/la2.shtml The comment period ends Jan.8. Any and all support is appreciated!!! -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA

Re: [RBW] Re: Now: IT Band Was: Goals for 2010

2010-01-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:13 PM, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com lylebog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All! Regarding [the] understanding that the effect of heavy resistance creating excessive contact pressure between the articular surfaces of the knee cap and the trochlear groove in which the knee cap