[RBW] Re: In praise of gloves

2012-08-05 Thread Michael Hechmer
Most of the spills I have taken have been at slow speeds and near the end of a ride in very hot weather, which is exactly the moment we are least attentive. I'm glad to read that you are fundamentally OK. I always wear gloves and always keep my thumbs hooked on the bars or hoods. Michael

[RBW] Re: Old-school 200k Frankfort to the Grand Traverse Light and back

2012-08-05 Thread Marc Irwin
Thanks for sharing! I was on the other side of the bayhttp://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2012/07/exotic-places.html just the week before. It's all very beautiful coastline. I've been meaning to ride on the peninsula for a while, now I may go up for the Harvest Tour next month. Marc

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of gloves

2012-08-05 Thread Eric Platt
Jay, Mainly play acoustic guitar, although dabble in a few other instruments. My main interest is old-time string-band music, although am starting to learn cajun backup. Otherwise am glad to have gotten through the accident with not too much damage. Could have easily had a collarbone or wrist

[RBW] Suitable V-brake arm length for newer, longer Bombadil fork

2012-08-05 Thread Tom Harrop
Hi everyone, I got fed up of the CR-720s on my Bombadil (late 2011, with the new fork crown with extra clearance and long fork blades), so I decided to try V-brakes instead. I was concerned that the Nitto Mini rack would interfere with the cable at the fork crown. I thought I'd post here in

[RBW] Re: In praise of gloves

2012-08-05 Thread richdpow...@gmail.com
I was reminded how important it is to have gloves the other night. I took my 7 yo son and 12 yo daughter on an off-road ride (in the scenic George Wyth park in Cedar Falls, IA for those who care) In any case, my son went down and one hand was covered with about 10 really nasty slivers.

[RBW] Re: In praise of gloves

2012-08-05 Thread Beth H
Eric -- OWW! Having known my share of road rash over the years I get it. The last time Sweetie and I traveled to the Bay Area we stopped in at Riv HQ to kidnap Grant for a lunch break (he doesn't always take them). Before we left I bought something like nine pairs of the small-sized summer

[RBW] In praise of gloves

2012-08-05 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Eric is tougher than he lets on! He and his Simpleone, which is a lovely bike by the way, had no trouble going down the road on the return leg of the ride, despite the earlier adversity. I hear that the average cyclist crashes every 3700 miles. Must be a relief to Eric to now have half a year

Re: [RBW] In praise of gloves

2012-08-05 Thread John Blish
On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I hear that the average cyclist crashes every 3700 miles. Must be a relief to Eric to now have half a year of crash-free riding ahead of him! I tried to include a thought like that in my private message

[RBW] Re: Shimano CX70s

2012-08-05 Thread ted
If you mean the cx70 it looks like the non standard pad holders take normal road pads. You probably want to ask riv, or perhaps someone here has em and will pipe in, to be sure. Anyway if the pads are standard short/road ones you can still swap em out for your preferred salmon pad. On Aug 4,

[RBW] Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog

2012-08-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/riding-fast-is-fun/ I personally -- to quote one commentator -- would rather stab myself in the eye than ride 600 km, but this little essay has some good points about the joy of riding fast, but on intelligent bikes. Several RBW references in the

[RBW] Re: In praise of gloves

2012-08-05 Thread Jim Cloud
Sorry that you had that accident, but I appreciate your post about the protection afforded by wearing your cycling gloves. I always wear cycling gloves, both for an anticipated safety advantage and the additional cushioning effect from the handlebars. I think one of the situations that is often

[RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread Anne Paulson
I just last week got back from a 2500 mile tour, Mexico to Canada via the Sierra and the Cascades. Once again, as often happens, my riding companions sometimes complained that about rough roads. And once again, in the main I didn't notice the roads being rough, although the dirt detours that I

Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 12:57 -0700, Anne Paulson wrote: I'm at a loss to understand what I'm missing. This was a loaded tour. I was riding my Atlantis with 26 x 1.5 Panaracer Paselas, which should be comfortable tires, by my companions were riding fine touring bikes (Surly LHT, Co-Motion

Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I get acceptably comfortable tire performance from skinny, little 650Cx22 mm Michelin Pro Race 3s (or whatever) at roughly 85/90 under my 175 lb on smooth-down-to-mediocre roads. The 559X32 mm Kojaks on another bike are extremely plush at 50/60, 55/65 or so under grocery loads. My fattest, 60+ mm

Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread Ken Mattina
My guess is that they don't like riding on rough roads. I know plenty of people who would rather die than ride on a gravel road. Me, as long as I'm riding my bike I don't care. On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 12:57 -0700, Anne

Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread Anne Paulson
What tire pressure are they using? That's my guess, that they were inflating their tires too much. But the bizarre thing is that my suggestions that they reduce their tire pressure went unheeded. They imagined that they would go faster with harder tires, though I think that's incorrect on roads

Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread Anne Paulson
Can you post photos of your tour? I don't take photos. I love seeing other people's pictures of tours, but I don't take pictures myself. (So I guess I can't prove the tour happened.) -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: Shimano CX70s

2012-08-05 Thread Scott G.
The CX-70s come with Mavic sourced rim destroying pads. Koolstop Shimano pattern road pads fit fine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread Scott G.
When did 1.5s get to be fat tires on Riv list ? I was under the impression that decent tires started at 42mm Anything smaller was for little French guys in Le Tour. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on

Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I believe you, and even sympathize. Would have liked to participate vicariously via photos, though. Anecdote: once, long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away, on a cross-country auto trip with four guys (biggish) in a 1972 Toyta Celica (small), we'd rotate drivers every 2 hours, clockwise. One guy

Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 13:16 -0700, Anne Paulson wrote: What tire pressure are they using? That's my guess, that they were inflating their tires too much. But the bizarre thing is that my suggestions that they reduce their tire pressure went unheeded. They imagined that they would go faster

Re: [RBW] Re: Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 13:32 -0700, Scott G. wrote: When did 1.5s get to be fat tires on Riv list ? I was under the impression that decent tires started at 42mm Anything smaller was for little French guys in Le Tour. When you are a wee slip of a thing, like Anne, for example, a 38mm tire is

Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread John Blish
Hi Ann, Them simply complaining about the dirt roads is not enough to get an answer to your question. Find out what it is about riding off pavement that bothers them? Know what I mean? Saddle discomfort, neck and shoulder strain, feeling of being less in control, requires too much attention to

[RBW] Re: Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread Kelly
I agree with everyone about air pressure. I shipped my bike tomA Alaska and when I went to get the bike they had inflated my 700z50's to 60 psi. Because that was max inflation listed on the side. I notice most everyone on the tour riding gravel was riding almost mad pressure and weren't

[RBW] Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog

2012-08-05 Thread Aaron Young
Yes, a great conversation in the comments. I personally thought Jan's suggestion of a 665b version of the Roadeo was an excellent idea. What a bike that would be! Aaron Y Vancouver, WA On Sunday, August 5, 2012, PATRICK MOORE wrote:

[RBW] Re: Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread Garth
Everyone's perspective is different . What's okay to one is he!! to another . Neither perspective is right or wrong just different based on their life's experience. That's just it ... no two riders can EVER experience the same thing the same way ! I say ... help them if they

[RBW] FS or Trade. Bars, Stems, Fisher frame, etc.

2012-08-05 Thread Tino Cota
Hello Bob'ers. Few parts FS (or trade). Includes shipping. *Make an offer. Will take $5 off shipping every time you combine.* Nitto Dirt Drop Bar RM013. 48 cm at its widest. $50 Nitto Grand Randonneur Bar 135. 42 to 45 mm flare. $45 Titec J-bar. 31.8. 660 mm. Profile Design

[RBW] Re: Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog

2012-08-05 Thread ted
Perhaps it could go to 650b in the smaller sizes (like on the Hillsen) but I fear they wouldn't sell that many. The Rodeo is targeted at club racer riding, and for that it sorta makes sense to have the same size wheels as everybody else. On Aug 5, 2:24 pm, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote:

[RBW] One more ...

2012-08-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/opinion/sunday/if-kant-were-a-new-york-cyclist.html?_r=1hpw -- When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Serial number decoding...what's it mean?

2012-08-05 Thread Leslie
:) Glad to know, just because... not critical, but still, just good to know the system is clickin' along :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread arthur strum
On Aug 5, 2012, at 4:05 PM, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com Aug 05 01:16PM -0700 What tire pressure are they using? That's my guess, that they were inflating their tires too much. But the bizarre thing is that my suggestions that they

Re: [RBW] In praise of gloves

2012-08-05 Thread Eric Platt
Well, I did get out on a somewhat slow ride today. Not on a Rivendell, but another bike with more upright bars. My left side still aches. But the knees and hands function. Have been practicing guitar this afternoon and no issues. Am lucky, I guess. Although at age 48 it's not as easy to

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog

2012-08-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 16:04 -0700, ted wrote: Perhaps it could go to 650b in the smaller sizes (like on the Hillsen) but I fear they wouldn't sell that many. The Rodeo is targeted at club racer riding, and for that it sorta makes sense to have the same size wheels as everybody else. Well, it

[RBW] Shimano CX70s

2012-08-05 Thread Doug Magney
I have the CX70s on my Hunq with no issues. Pretty straightforward to install if you read the directions, but not exactly intuitive. Had a few problems with squeeling, but hard to say if they're particular to this brake or attributable to cantis in general - not enough of an expert to say for

Re: [RBW] Shimano CX70s

2012-08-05 Thread Robert F. Harrison
I've got a set on a non-Riv bike and they work just fine. Since the bike they are on is my 26 wheeled constant evolution frame I'll probably put the CX70s on my Hunq when that arrives and swap the CR720 from the build kit to this project bike. In any case I didn't even have any trouble with

Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread Peter Pesce
On a related note, how big we're your riding companions? The popular online tire drop calculator indicates 85 psi in a 37mm rear tire for a 225 lb rider with 75 lbs of bike and gear. My LHT actually rides much nicer with a good load on it. I always assumed it did so because that's what's it

[RBW] Re: Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog

2012-08-05 Thread RonaTD
On Sunday, August 5, 2012 6:04:46 PM UTC-5, ted wrote: The Rodeo is targeted at club racer riding, and for that it sorta makes sense to have the same size wheels as everybody else. While I personally have no problem carrying my own tubes and patches (and an honest to goodness pump for

[RBW] Re: HOLDSWORTH ???

2012-08-05 Thread Brian Campbell
Interested price/trades? On Sunday, August 5, 2012 12:45:39 AM UTC-4, Kelly wrote: Seat tube is 23.5 / 60 cm maybe a touch under Top tube centers is about 23 inches 59.xx something cm Kelly On Saturday, August 4, 2012 9:16:59 PM UTC-5, Ablejack wrote: looks like a nice size for me!

Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread Anne Paulson
I'm 5'8, and four of the five guys were shorter than I am. I'm guessing the short guys were in the 150 pound range. We started out the ride as a loaded tour, but three weeks in, there was a revolt because the majority of us thought the ride was just too hard. So Adventure Cycling ended up sending

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog

2012-08-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 18:30 -0700, RonaTD wrote: Steve says there won't be wheel swaps, but her frame will have a lot of clearance. If one of her cohorts bangs a wheel out of true, she'll be able to put it in her frame and they can all ride home :-) And she'll have Shimano 10 and the friend

[RBW] Re: Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog

2012-08-05 Thread ted
Back when I raced, I did use other peoples wheels a few times. That sort of group ride is a bit of a hive thing in some ways and having similar sized wheels and similar gears seems to work well. For tires there is a lot more variety and better availability w/ the 700c size. Particularly in the

[RBW] Re: Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread Anne Paulson
Replying to my own post: I was just reading the Bicycle Quarterly blog, noting that they say that Paselas (which I was using) are fast-rolling tires, whereas Schwalbes are both slow and harsh-riding. So maybe that's the explanation of my riding companions' complaints. They were using Schwalbes.

[RBW] Re: Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog

2012-08-05 Thread Michael_S
As much as I enjoy the technical content of BQ I often struggle with Jan's strong negative opinions with most bikes/parts that are competition for his products or what he rides. He also suggests that we all would be happier on thin tubed standard diameter frames, not offering the ideas that

Re: [RBW] Re: Complaints about bad roads

2012-08-05 Thread Bertin753
Just for the record, *some* Schwalbes are very smooth, fast rolling tires, the Kojak for example. Even the massively heavy Big Apple rolls nicely for its mass. Patrick Moore iPhone On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: Replying to my own post: I was just

[RBW] Re: Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog

2012-08-05 Thread Kelly
Very well put Mike. I agree with you. Not just us big guys either. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/jSVwDsmmmA8J. To post

[RBW] Re: HOLDSWORTH ???

2012-08-05 Thread Kelly
Brian Make an offer.. Trades sound interesting. I honestly don't know.. Have more parts on the way to keep building it up.. But really have no use for it other an a really pretty bike. I have another frame to build up so parts won't go to waste. I've been telling people 700 for the frame