Jan and Grant remind me of old Outdoor Life writers like Jack O'Connor
who brought romance and excitement to their sport (hunting). They promote
the sport they love through their ideas and designs, but both love
different things about the sport/lifestyle. I generally love reading
everything they
Hi, I posted my Atlantis frame for sale and haven't gotten much response. Am I
out of touch with the market? I didn't think $1400 shipped was unreasonable
for a frame in pretty good shape, is my price too high? Thanks for any input.
Art
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This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need
some fender advice. I've decided to get some 45mm fenders to fit over
700x32c tires. I'm leaning toward smooth aluminum type. I'm looking at
either VO fenders or Honjo fenders. Honjo fenders are over twice the price
of
Pickle brine can stop a cramp, but I don't believe it is known why. It
works for me, but it does not prevent cramps and I don't carry pickle brine
on bike rides.
I like the Clif Shot Blocks margarita flavor. 3x the sodium.
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Sounds good, planning on getting into camp about that time. we'll be
leaving from upper Haight sunday morning. prob go to sam p tayor or maybe
china camp that evening. trying for a mellow trip.
Morgan
On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 11:32:40 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
Thinking of joining you. I
Hi all,
New Riv owner, long time lurker.
Received and built up a 66cm Rambouillet today (Thanks Ryan!). Moved all
the parts over from my old ride, and things are feeling good.
However, I'm still running the 25mm Bontrager slicks. It's all that would
fit on the Trek 710 that's now up for
cool.
On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 11:23:59 AM UTC-7, danmc wrote:
I might be in for part of Sunday and maybe a bit during the week. Let's
keep in touch.
Dan
-Marin
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:20 PM, MTR ruck...@gmail.com javascript:wrote:
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to the Google posting procedures
On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 1:53:37 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
I can see them... and they show in the Riv group pool:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/rivendell/pool/
Looks
There are differences, for sure, but Peter Weigle told me that he likes the VO
fenders, which he uses on his wonderful reimagined Raleigh Competition
randonneurs. That's a pretty solid recommendation.
On May 8, 2013, at 3:07 AM, Ojiisan a...@mynvw.commailto:a...@mynvw.com
wrote:
This has
Never had Honjo but I have used VO fenders on many bikes. The quality has
never let me down. They are easily as good (better in many aspects) as the
Berthoud fenders I have on one bike.
David
Charlotte, NC
On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 3:43:38 PM UTC-4, Ojiisan wrote:
This has probably been
I think I posted into the comments when that article originally came out. I
have to go through it though.
I believe she went and bought herself a seven axiom and has since sold the
Hillborne. I remember her saying that she never really did carry much in
the way of gear on the bike and never
looks grippy - good job
On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 5:13:18 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Oops. Here 'tis...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/8717798307/in/photostream
With abandon,
Patrick
On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 3:16:34 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Here's the post shellac
Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are
slightly thicker. The VO fenders are a bargain on a great product.
On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:43:38 PM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote:
This has probably been covered already someplace on this group but I need
some fender advice.
On Tue, 2013-05-07 at 20:09 -0700, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
Undersized tubing? Maybe it's not obvious to everybody, but a lot of
plus-sized people are drawn to Riv by the promise of high-bar comfort
and sturdiness. Put some chugging 270-pounder on a bike with
undersized tubes, and
Hey Jeremy-
Do you have a pic of the Bosco bars on your QB? I moved my Albas to my Sam,
and put Noodles on the QB, but now I want to go back to upright on the QB,
and I'm not sure if I should get another set of Albas or try the Bosco.
Thanks!
Pete in CT
On Sunday, May 5, 2013 11:47:12 AM
This is all a matter of taste, I think. I'm 170 - 175, and my custom Rivs
ride just fine -- I've never felt that they are sluggish in any way, and
this compared to other bikes with the old standard sized and all 531
tubing.* My seat-of-the-pants test is how fast I can turn the cranks in a
given
What actually is a Randonneur frame?
Meaning, what is it about its geometry and materials that makes it more suited
to this activity over other traditionally styled road bikes - fenderability and
tire width and ad- ons capability excluded?
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Nice!
What's the gearing on your White crank?
-L
On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 6:09:30 PM UTC-4, ttoshi wrote:
Hey Alex,
That's awesome! I may get the Leger tires whenever my regular Hetres
wear out. Did you have any brake reach issues in the rear?
Toshi
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at
What I did, I wanted the light forward enough to miss my rando-box bag, so
I used a mount bolted to the tab at the front of my Mark's rack, to put the
light out front.
Scroll to the bottom of this page:
http://peterwhitecycles.com/light-mounts.asp, and look at the BM Lumotec
Fly Cantilever
Patrick Moore wrote:
Has anyone used the SOMA Clarence bar?
I've used the OnOne Mary bars which seem to be identical or nearly so.
They are a nice trail-bikey all 'rounder bar. With Ergon grips they're
pretty swell.
My favorite mtb/flat alternative bar is currently the Salsa Bend 17degree.
Way
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 07:39 -0700, Michael wrote:
What actually is a Randonneur frame?
Meaning, what is it about its geometry and materials that makes it more
suited to this activity over other traditionally styled road bikes -
fenderability and tire width and ad- ons capability excluded?
Yep, just posted an update here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/85709120@N07/8714991825/in/photostream
-jeremy
On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 6:55:21 AM UTC-7, Peter Pesce wrote:
Hey Jeremy-
Do you have a pic of the Bosco bars on your QB? I moved my Albas to my
Sam, and put Noodles on the QB,
For sale
2 pairs of Silver Shifters with splitters (actually 1.5 sets of splitters).
Shifter end has splitters but they both joined the same rear section. I
would like to sell these as a pair for someone looking to have two cockpits
on one bike. I moved to downtube shifters to simplify this a
In my opinion you'll have better luck at $1000, but sometimes it's just a
matter of timing with a group of this limited size, especially considering
many of us already have one-or-more Rivs.
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 2:30:38 PM UTC-7, a w wrote:
Hi, I posted my
Ah, the last 64 cm orange QB!Looks great.-Original Message-
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Yep, just posted an update here:
Very thorough description. Describing the mission is a good way to highlight a
point that has already been made: Rivendells are designed for riding that
doesn't resemble that description. So comparing Rivendells to BQ bikes is an
apples/oranges thing.
-Original Message-
From: Steve
take for example this ad from a little while back, similar price but comes
with a boss set of wheels.
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Hey all,
I have never read BQ, but it is my understanding that they are recommending
a type of bike that isn't off the peg or readily available, the Classic
Randonneur so as pointed out on the Lovely Bicycle blog it might be hard
for a lot of us to make a comparison. Maybe the VO Polyvalent?
On Wed, May
Randonneur is the new cyclocross. Nothing wrong with either, but like 10
years ago it seemed everyone started making cyclocross bikes and everybody
started racing, now it has shifted to Rando. But I agree with Jim Thill,
get a nice bike you like and JUST RIDE!
On Wednesday, May 8, 2013
Can the person offering the Velo Orange Grand Cru crankset for sale please
contact me? I'm interested in buying it.
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Steve P: I used the term undersized in reference to tubing because the
smaller tubing diameter has become nonstandard over the last 20 or so years.
You can switch it around and refer to that which is the current norm as
oversized if you prefer, but that seems like too much effort swimming
I've never given this whole debate much thought. I like Rivendell bikes
because when I manage to squeeze two or three hours out of my busy schedule
on a weekend for a ride in the local mountains, I want to ride a road
bike that will take me anywhere, including rocky trails if the notion
grabs
I am somewhat contrarian - at least from the Riv / BQ perspective.
In the nine years now I've been without a car, I have come to the
conclusion that I far prefer a a low trail bike with porteur style rack for
urban commuting and errand running. For me it is easier popping my things
and
Yes carrying pickle brine probably isn't the most convenient though I
imagine you could drink it post ride and that could help, I'm inclined to
ingest a solution before, during and post ride. I forgot to mention I'm
going to try Coco hydro in the future as Ted Durant Milwaukee recommended
and
Hi Toshi,
No brake issues in either the front or rear. I believe couple of mm to
spare in the rear.
Alex
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Alex,
That's awesome! I may get the Leger tires whenever my regular Hetres
wear out. Did you have any brake
Hi Leslie,
170mm cranks w/ 42x16 with 11-28 cassette.
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:
Nice!
What's the gearing on your White crank?
-L
On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 6:09:30 PM UTC-4, ttoshi wrote:
Hey Alex,
That's awesome! I may get the Leger tires
I don't think starting out at $1400 is wrong as long as you are willing to
negotiate down to what the market will bear and of course the condition of
the frame is a major factor. What I have found from this group, if you ask
for too much rather than negotiate you down they let it sit rather
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it's a great theory, but when the birds start landing on it to eat the
crumbs, it's time to wash it.
On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 1:03:07 PM UTC-5, ccanter wrote:
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After nearly 10 years of riding a Rambouillet I have found that with fenders
the bike is built for 28mm tires. Yes I did get slightly bigger tires on for
awhile, Grand Bois 30mm, but everything had to be just right. I am feeding
mine a steady diet of Ruffy Tuffy tires.
Without fenders the
I have a pair of lightly used JB's; one blue, one green. I've sold the
bike they were on and don't see a use for them now. Nice tires though.
Michael
On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 6:39:12 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote:
Hi all,
New Riv owner, long time lurker.
Received and built up a 66cm
Hipsters don't wash their clothes anyway, unless its ironically.
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:
it's a great theory, but when the birds start landing on it to eat the
crumbs, it's time to wash it.
On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 1:03:07 PM UTC-5, ccanter
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 09:03 -0700, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
Steve P: I used the term undersized in reference to tubing because
the smaller tubing diameter has become nonstandard over the last 20 or
so years. You can switch it around and refer to that which is the
current norm as
So no, I wasn't predisposed to agree with Jan; I was predisposed to
agree with Grant. Experience taught me that Jan was right.
Of course you don't mean that Jan was objectively right, and by extension
that Grant was/is objectively wrong. You mean that subjectively, for you
and the riding
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 12:14 -0700, William wrote:
So no, I wasn't predisposed to agree with Jan; I was predisposed to
agree with Grant. Experience taught me that Jan was right.
Of course you don't mean that Jan was objectively right, and by
extension that Grant was/is
It seems to me that what you've just said, Steve -- and I think it's all you've
said -- is that you personally (and subjectively) value the incremental benefit
in climbing/pedaling efficiency (relative to the efficiency of your Saluki)
more than you value whatever is given up in other desirable
Agreed. Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value. I love the Honjo's
but have never gotten over the big price difference myself.
On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:35:35 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:
Honjo fenders use 4mm rods, VO fenders use 5mm rods, VO fenders are
slightly thicker. The VO fenders
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 19:40 +, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote:
It seems to me that what you've just said, Steve -- and I think it's
all you've said -- is that you personally (and subjectively) value the
incremental benefit in climbing/pedaling efficiency (relative to the
efficiency of your
...very few people have ridden a bike like Jan suggests so it's hard to
accept that there is a difference. A standard dia. 531 tubed bike is built
stiffer than Jan's performance based Randonneuring bikes.
While I believe humans can adapt to most any thing, there are
subtle advantages to the
I said there's a real, objective difference. It's not just subjective. I'm
not imagining it. It's real.
Agreed -- the real difference you've identified is an improvement in climbing
efficiency (or maybe more generally, pedaling efficiency overall). I wasn't
suggesting that it was imagined
To add, VO fenders are pre-drilled as contrasted to the Honjos that gives
me more convenience and headache free installation. Can't speak for
Berthouds as I never had them.
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:
Agreed. Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value. I
Prepared mustard has brine and vinegar in it to stop and stabilize the
escalating heat of an evolving mustard/water solution. The substance making
the hotness, isothiocyanate, is a great antioxidant.
Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh
A friend carries a bottle of French's Mustard in his front bag and
This excellent summation of a randonneur bike's mission also describes a
commute bike's mission. You need to get yourself and some gear to a
destination, on time. A commuter (this one, anyway), may get a randonneur's
five hour feeling at the 40 minute mark.
In the bigger debate, I don't
I have had both Honjos and VO's. The Velo Orange are a great deal
comparatively speaking and like Alex said come pre-drilled. I know it has
been said that some VO fenders only have one Daruma attachment on the rear
but the 52mm Zeppelins def have two just like Honjos. Back in the day VO
didn't
I tend to waffle between Grant's and Jan's viewpoints on bicycles. I think
part of that is curiosity about the type of ride that Rivendell's provide.
I've heard so many glowing reports that I want to experience it for
myself. Also, I'm an uber-clydesdale and I trust Rivendell bicycles to be
Does anybody have any experience fitting the 52mm VO Zeppelin fenders to a
Homer over 42mm Hetres?
Thanks,
David
On May 8, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:
Agreed. Have VO and Berthoud, VO are a great value. I love the Honjo's but
have never gotten over the big price
Yeah, will probably go without fenders for this one. I have other fendered
bikes for poor weather riding.
Going to try the Resist Nomad 700x35 (31 actual) to start. Cheap enough to
try 'em out for fun. I've heard people say that the Ram is most stable (or,
was meant for) 700x28's, but I can't
Good points! I have a Small Sackville SaddleSack on order. I can't wait to
try it out and I expect it will be great for the majority of what I do.
That said; I just got back from Trader Joe's. I take my bike right into the
store (leave the lock at home) and I use my bike as a shopping cart
Thanks folks, This makes me less suspicious about VO fenders and unless I
get some bad feed back or dire warning about VO fenders I'm sorta leaning
toward them... Here are a few other thoughts I've had re. fenders: I like
the look of the smooth fenders but now I'm thinking the hammered texture
These types of threads are equivalent to arguing over which is the better
type of screw dirver, flat head or phillips head? Whichever best suites the
job you want to accomplish. A true rando bike is a purpose built machine.
Riv's are not built as rando bikes (integrated lights, front loading
Boulder http://renehersebicycles.com/ and Box
Doghttp://www.boxdogbikes.com/products-the-bdb-pelican/bikes both sell
off-the-peg randonneuses. Some older bikes are low trail
(my old Ross), or a used Kogswell, or re-raking a fork on an under-used
bike are some low-cost ways to try out the idea.
Re: 52mm Zeppelins over Honjos on a Homer. Took some fiddling but it is
possible, again some fiddling could mean 1 hour, could mean 1 day depending
on your handiness, def not an easy setup job but it comes out looking nice.
See picture in my Flikr feed.
I'd been looking around for a nice MB-2 for some time, to go with my 1992
RB-2, when I stumbled upon a 1993 MB-1 unused frame. I drove 400 miles and
bought it right away. The story behind the frame is that it was supplied
to somebody as a warranty frame. This person returned it with the
Damn, forgot about Boulder. Their 650b lugged offering is amazing looking.
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Philip Williamson
philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:
Boulder http://renehersebicycles.com/ and Box
Doghttp://www.boxdogbikes.com/products-the-bdb-pelican/bikes both sell
off-the-peg
Nice find!
I found this discussion (from 2008, but old bike dudes are still old) about
a fellow who broke the fork on his tusk MB-1. You may be able to track
someone down.
http://forums.mtbr.com/vintage-retro-classic/ritchey-bi-plane-fork-repair-rebuild-anyone-interested-474327.html
On Wed,
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 13:12 -0700, Philip Williamson wrote:
This excellent summation of a randonneur bike's mission also describes
a commute bike's mission. You need to get yourself and some gear to a
destination, on time. A commuter (this one, anyway), may get a
randonneur's five hour feeling
VO even has a 58mm version of its 650B fenders now. Smooth only, though.
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I
Kieran,
Let us know on the actual measurements, i did not see that these measure so
much smaller then labeled.
On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 3:05:28 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote:
Yeah, will probably go without fenders for this one. I have other fendered
bikes for poor weather riding.
Going to try
on the VO daruma at the fender stay issue, i think i saw back that VO
started offering dual daruma. but to be honest i've been happy with my
single daruma, and the berthoud (which use two affixing points) is more
secure but not hugely so.
On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 4:34:41 PM UTC-4, Pudge
On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 11:24:59 AM UTC-5, Ojiisan wrote:
Thanks folks, This makes me less suspicious about VO fenders and unless I
get some bad feed back or dire warning about VO fenders I'm sorta leaning
toward them... Here are a few other thoughts I've had re. fenders: I like
the
Kieren,Despite the word on the street, I'll let you know that for me, the Ram with Jack Brown Greeen 700x 33.333 is just the bee's knee's.I have a lot of nice bikes, and the Ram, so equipped, keeps coming back to being my favorite of them. It's a 64 cm frame and I'm about 225 lbs.
Hi David,
Yes, I did have the experience with installing Zeppelins for Hetres on 650b
specific bike. It took me some time like Peter pointed out but it came out
perfectly, beyond my expectations. You should not have any issues with the
installation as long as you have plenty time on your hands
On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 7:00:05 PM UTC-7, samh wrote:
I was fascinated by the discussion here:
http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2011/02/choosing-your-gospel-rivendell-vs.html
One difference between Riv and BQ that I may have missed is their
preference in handlebar width. Grant/Riv likes
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 16:25 -0500, Alex Zeibot wrote:
Hi David,
Yes, I did have the experience with installing Zeppelins for Hetres on
650b specific bike. It took me some time like Peter pointed out but
it came out perfectly, beyond my expectations. You should not have
any issues with the
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 14:29 -0700, Brewster Fong wrote:
One difference between Riv and BQ that I may have missed is their
preference in handlebar width. Grant/Riv likes them wide like 46cm or
even 48cm. In contrast, Jan H appears to like them narrower like
38-40cm. Could be body difference,
Here's how I did it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/8721851272/in/photostream/lightbox/
On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 12:06:30 PM UTC-4, Rick Houston wrote:
Going to finally put my wife's Betty Foy together, and she wants the front
rack she previously had mounted on her Quickbeam installed on
Woke up feeling great this morning, looked out to see rain and heavy clouds and
temp at 32˚F. Naturally I grabbed my gear and headed out!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157633435488285/
With abandon,
Patrick
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Hello,
I posted this one for sale if that is what you are looking for. It is still
available.
Velo Orange Grand Cru 50.4 bcd Crank set (Version 1) 46-30 $75.00 (I found
the second dust cap).
*
Did the store ever get built?
If you build it they will come. :)
- Brian
On Thursday, April 18, 2013 10:19:05 AM UTC-7, jinxed wrote:
They are due today or tomorrow actually!! I am building a store and will
post a link when it's ready.
On Thursday, April 18, 2013 10:48:24 AM UTC-6,
I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion, as well as the right to
express it in a peaceful fashion. But I can't help asking ... why would
someone who so blatantly feels all Rivendell frames are designed wrong
spend so much time hanging out and chatting with the RBW Owner's Bunch? I
I think there is less difference between Grant's ideas and *Bicycle
Quarterly* than many surmise. We both want versatile and durable bikes that
are fun to ride and look nice. Whether it's a fully integrated 650B
randonneur bike or a Homer Hilsen, both machines allow you to ride in
places where
Right for you. Not right for everyone else.
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 12:14 -0700, William wrote:
So no, I wasn't predisposed to agree with Jan; I was predisposed to
agree with Grant. Experience taught me that Jan was
Another generalization from particular experiences. I like narrow bars on
my Rivendells. To put it in the language of this debate, narrower bars
work better with higher trail.
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
Higher trail works better with wider bars,
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 16:42 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
Right for you. Not right for everyone else.
Nobody ever said everyone else. I sure didn't.
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Another false generalization from particular experience.
If you are an experienced rider and know what you want, and you ride
enough that the high cost of a constructeur bike will amortize itself, then
the constructeur machine offers a performance that is without equal.
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There's plenty of Suntour XC Pro stuff on Ebay, but personally I would lean
more towards a period build than an absolutely accurate OEM.
retrobike.co.uk will give you a good idea of this type of thing. Beware,
though: That site will turn you into a maniac for rare and expensive '90s
CNC parts.
Do some Rams have more clearance than others? I haven't tried fenders yet,
but on my 58 there is surely a lot of gap over 35 mm tires:
https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/RAMBOUILLETFINALLYBUILT040613#5863925294024508226
The 1993 MB1 wasn't XC Pro, though, but the 1992 was. The 1993 had Deore
XT derailers and shifters and rear hub. It had a swank 28 hole ultegra
hubbed front wheel. Ritchey(Sugino) cranks, Ritchey(Nitto) seatpost,
Ritchey(Dia Compe) brakes, Ritchey(Panaracer) tires. Sheldon has the
catalog
Matt:
Thanks for the link to the photos. I'd be setting this up with just the large
chainring, and I think this particular crankset wouldn't look right without the
small ring. I'll have to pass, but good luck sellinng it!
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On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 16:48 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
Another false generalization from particular experience.
Actually I think the problem is simply the omission of the phrase and
what you want is the sort of thing the constructeur bike offers
inserted between want, and and in the first
Summing up the thread neatly, it was written:
I tend to waffle between Grant's and Jan's viewpoints on bicycles.
Jan and Grant have both stated numerous times that the differences between them
are greatly exaggerated. When I compare Rivendell to BQ to Trek to Cannondale
to Blue to
That is very correct. It may well be that Jan's preferred bikes are best
for randonees -- I don't know that, and it may well be that some educated
randoneurs prefer the qualities of Rivendell style bikes or racing bikes or
whatever else for the same riding. But I do know that Rivendells -- to take
I will also add that Jan is wrong in his general conclusion (at least, this
is the sensus verbi) that while other bikes are OK if you don't want to
spend a lot of money or don't really know what you like, his preferred
types are the only ones chosen by those who have both the knowledge and
money
One more data point in what makes a pic interesting to flickr will never be
understood, by me at least. My photo from the other day detailing the
light mount with an old chain ring and a nitto bolt made it to the explore
page. The shear number of favorites and comments expounding on my use of
The Flickr algorithm looks for photos with everything just so that include
an ironic stray hair snagged in the snap. Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 5:27:40 PM UTC-6, rperks wrote:
One more data point in what makes a pic interesting to flickr will never
be understood,
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:51 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
Do some Rams have more clearance than others? I haven't tried fenders yet,
but on my 58 there is surely a lot of gap over 35 mm tires:
A report on a long ride to, through and from Gettysburg. Pictures too.
http://eprider.blogspot.com/2013/05/leesburg-400k-with-roma-randonneurs-of.html
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Ohhh, your use of a shallow depth of field is exceptional! :-)
Cheers,
David
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
The Flickr algorithm looks for photos with everything just so that include
an ironic stray hair snagged in the snap. Grin.
With abandon,
Wow. Great ride through incredible country! Thank you for sharing your
photos and reflections. I loved my time visiting Gettysburg and running
through the National Park there. Traveling outside the car really give an
awesome feel for what happened there.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Wednesday,
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