[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

2013-05-19 Thread justinaugust
Hey guys - I know! Someone should write a book dissecting racing's pernicious effect on everyday cycling and how to undo it in your everyday rides. Hmmm -J, with a gold plated idea -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

2013-05-19 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Got it, and I agree. I'd really like to see an analysis of the real pros and cons of steel versus carbon fiber, leaving out stupid light issues. I don't know if it was on this list or, probably, on the boblist, but someone recounted being told to destroy a CF frame that had, I forget exactly

Re: [RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

2013-05-19 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
http://m.pinkbike.com/news/santa-cruz-bicycles-test-lab.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

2013-05-19 Thread PATRICK MOORE
One more remark about CF and the modern racing bike. At Stevie's I was put to installing a wireless computer on the first high end Trek (electric Dura Ace) that I've encountered up close -- Madone? Forget. (In contrast, a 2005 Madone, in for consignment, looks practically traditional.) It annoyed

[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

2013-05-19 Thread hsmitham
Brad, Just curious what part of the country are you located? And as the Black Sheep of your company what if any feedback do you receive from your colleagues egarding your steel-centric viewpoint? ~Hugh On Saturday, May 18, 2013 5:22:16 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: This is an exercise in

Re: [RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

2013-05-19 Thread Matthew J
Me, I think people who need 8, 9 -- gad, 10! gears in back, especially if they use -- gasp! -- brifters! -- are simply racer posers. Or perhaps touring wannabees. Wannabees being the optimal term. Many gears is not necessary for happy touring. Gears that suit the rider in an easy to

[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

2013-05-19 Thread Matthew J
The factors that really matter to me are tire clearance and braze-ons. It's possible to have a crummy steel bike that lacks these features, and it's also possible to have a versatile aluminum bike. Agreed. In fact, in the comments section of one his blog posts, Jan and another poster had a

Re: [RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

2013-05-19 Thread PATRICK MOORE
For the record, I was kidding. I personally don't need 11, but I do have 9 on the Fargo, to get both pavement and dirt cruising range on the outer, 38 t cog. (The 9 are shifted by friction -- Silvers -- though.) The Ram has 7. On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com

[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

2013-05-19 Thread Mike
Things are a lot different here in Portland, OR. While there are high end shops clearly focused on plastic race machines and all the appropriate accessories, there are also plenty of shops where a person can walk in and get set-up with a bike with a comfortable position for camping and

[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

2013-05-19 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Santa Cruz does make great quality bikes, and actually the fact that the aluminum Nomad broke before the CF frame is more telling about the perils of aluminum... in fact I've seen way too many aluminum swingarms (including one of my own) bust under normal use. And yet I have a friend with an

[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

2013-05-19 Thread hsmitham
Don, For you the Mini cooper is the most fun to drive! Is it the original or the BMW reinvention? Not trying to devolve this thread to cars but here is my submission for a seemingly impractical automobile that's fun to drive

[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

2013-05-19 Thread hsmitham
Hey Mike, My Brother visits that shop too. ~Hugh On Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:13:33 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote: actually there is a good shop in So Cal. Pacific Coast Cycles in Oceanside sells steel bikes, has panniers in the window and the owner know is stuff. He sells Surly and Salsa

Re: [RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

2013-05-19 Thread Peter Morgano
I think a practical bike could be made out of CF, but from a marketing standpoint what is the subset of people who want something that takes 40's, racks, bars level with seat and is made out of CF? Way too small for the big boys to care about since they have been pushing for so long that CF is

Re: [RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

2013-05-19 Thread Rambouilleting Utahn
There was an interesting post on Bike Radar a few weeks ago that addressed the current road bike models and their narrow focus. Worth the read at: http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/angryasian-race-bikes-are-dumb-37270/ btw, here in Salt Lake we have at least 3 shops that would sell you a

[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

2013-05-19 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
I was at the grocery store right next to a big box type bike shop yesterday. A woman was test riding bikes when we rolled in and locked up. She was still there but test riding a different bike when we came out of the store. I began to load my 2 kids and 5-bags worth of groceries onto the Big

Re: [RBW] Re: That Pugsley

2013-05-19 Thread Mojo
I have a Pugsley and love it. It was my main mtn bike for a season, but have gone back to my 2.3 shod Salsa Ala Carte. The rear facing drop-ins didn't bother me, the wide Q was noticeable but didn't bother me. The huge trail handling bothered me. Its head angle of 70.5 with fork rake at 43mm

[RBW] Re: Bunny Hoppin' on 36 hole Synergy rims

2013-05-19 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
Bunny hop everything... post video. I do small jumps on my 36-hole Synergy'd Homer all the time (curbs, my kid's bike jump, dirt humps, etc). In the end it's just a wheel. --Smitty On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:29:54 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Bad idea? I have 36 holers and was wondering if

Re: [RBW] Re: Bunny Hoppin' on 36 hole Synergy rims

2013-05-19 Thread cyclotourist
I don't think you have anything to worry about with the Synergies. I rode the machine-build QBP ones over all kind of terrain as my main off-road bike for several years with no problems: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/1562380216/in/set-72157625276813949Maybe they'll crack, maybe they

Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?

2013-05-19 Thread charlie
Not sure if Dyad rims are available in sizes other than 700c but I like mine fine and I am 260 lbs. I use Delta Cruiser tires however so they are only about 36mm wide at around 75-80 psi. I'd prefer wider but not enough room under the fenders with my Hillborne. The Dyad rim was recommended to

[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

2013-05-19 Thread jinxed
Hugh, Im in Colorado so there is certainly no shortage of bike shops here. There ARE a couple shops around town that do embrace a more universal usage point of view as opposed to the racing ends of the spectrum. They have basically evolved out of the fixie messenger scene and transitioned into

Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?

2013-05-19 Thread Mike Schiller
He wanted 650B rims. Velocity made a run of Dyads in 650B ( I have a set) but they are no longer available. The Atlas is the closest thing. ~mike On Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:57:35 AM UTC-7, charlie wrote: Not sure if Dyad rims are available in sizes other than 700c but I like mine fine and I

Re: [RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

2013-05-19 Thread cyclotourist
I would love to see a shop selling only Surly products. Having Pacers, LHTs and Cross Checks along with the occasional Big Dummy and Pug. The CCs and LHTs could be built up w/ fenders and racks, or aggressive knobbies for trail riding. Pacers are good road bikes that fit wider tires or fenders. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks

2013-05-19 Thread Fullylugged
Did you get the Brooks or another brand? On Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:26:13 AM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote: I got it online, so you'll have to be patient! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks

2013-05-19 Thread Deacon Patrick
Wait ... wha...? There are saddles other than Brooks? Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, May 19, 2013 11:56:51 AM UTC-6, Fullylugged wrote: Did you get the Brooks or another brand? On Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:26:13 AM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote: I got it online, so you'll have to be patient!

Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks

2013-05-19 Thread LeahFoy
I definitely got the Brooks :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

Re: [RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

2013-05-19 Thread jinxed
One of the nicest run shops in Denver is exactly this. Salvagettihttp://www.salvagetti.com/has such a great thing going and the owner Scott is a huge asset to cycling in the mile high. He is super positive and has been a Surly advocate for a long time. I visit there quite a bit and they always

[RBW] d-ring on silver shiftrrs

2013-05-19 Thread NWAJack
Does your d-ring ever flop around? Mine does and makes a clinking sound. Any suggestions? I could wrap and twine it, bit I think I'd need a microscope :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: d-ring on silver shiftrrs

2013-05-19 Thread samh
No. You might try jamming a little Riv beeswax in there, or a candle would do in a pinch. On Sunday, May 19, 2013 12:28:26 PM UTC-6, NWAJack wrote: Does your d-ring ever flop around? Mine does and makes a clinking sound. Any suggestions? I could wrap and twine it, bit I think I'd need a

Re: [RBW] Re: That Pugsley

2013-05-19 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Questions for y'all about the Pugsley: 1. Have any of you used it as a single speed? If so, what gearing? I *do* miss my off road singlespeeds. With the Monocog 29er I ran a 63 gear which was just about perfect. With my old Diamond Back 26er (both M and DB ran 60 mm Big Apples in the appropriate

[RBW] Re: Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble - June 1st

2013-05-19 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
Poking around I stumbled upon an option that I think is worth considering. In short... this route is a 40 mile loophttp://ridewithgps.com/routes/2536719that begins/ends at the Iron Creek CGhttp://www.hoodoo.com/gifford-pinchot-national-forest-wa/cowlitz-valley/iron-creek/ . The CG appears

[RBW] Re: Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble - June 1st

2013-05-19 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
More poking around... perhaps a better + more seasonably appropriate loop. Blue Lake Creek CG to Babyshoe Pass http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2537006 . Less climbing and lower elevation. 30 miles and tops out at 4300ft. I haven't looked but I'd guess CG availability is similarly plentiful.

[RBW] Re: d-ring on silver shiftrrs

2013-05-19 Thread NWAJack
Thanks. Ijammed some in after my ride this morning. I'll repost if that didn't help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble - June 1st

2013-05-19 Thread Mike
There are tons of options for riding in Gifford as long as all the passes are clear. Babyshoe Pass is a fun climb but can the descent can be tricky as the road gets pretty washboarded. I've ridden it a few times on a loaded bike and have always hoped to ride it one day unloaded. Sadly this

[RBW] Re: Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble - June 1st

2013-05-19 Thread Mike
This route goes right by Lake Takhlakh. On Sunday, May 19, 2013 12:19:11 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: More poking around... perhaps a better + more seasonably appropriate loop. Blue Lake Creek CG to Babyshoe Passhttp://ridewithgps.com/routes/2537006 . Less climbing and lower

[RBW] Stem reach on Bosco Bullmooose

2013-05-19 Thread Joe Bernard
I'm thinking about trying Boscos on my Ram. With a regular stem I'm sure I would need at least 13cm reach..does anyone know what the theoretical reach is on the Bullmoose version? Thanks, Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Freedom of the Bicycle

2013-05-19 Thread Deacon Patrick
Today is a hard brain day. Yet I was able to hop on the bike and slowly peddle my way to the falls a mile and a half away and 300 feet up. My brain did a wee bit better after that excursion, and hopefully it helped me recover some, so that tomorrow will be better than hard for my brain. The

Re: [RBW] Stem reach on Bosco Bullmooose

2013-05-19 Thread Dan McNamara
The stem reach on the Bosco Bullmoose is 12cm. Dan On May 19, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: I'm thinking about trying Boscos on my Ram. With a regular stem I'm sure I would need at least 13cm reach..does anyone know what the theoretical reach is on the Bullmoose

[RBW] Freedom of the Bicycle

2013-05-19 Thread Pondero
Glad to hear about the medicinal powers of the bike yet again, and for your personal good results. I've taken hundreds of rides shorter than 30 minutes that have helped me cope with some mighty stressful stuff. Bikes are wonderful like that, especially those from Rivendell Bicycle Works. --

Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks

2013-05-19 Thread Edwin W
Can't wait to see how it looks. A couple of years ago I got the mandarin orange b17 and it bled dye more than my other Brookses. Not horrible, came out in the wash, but surprising. Some of those afternoon rides after work in work clothes are really hot here in Nashville! Edwin -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?

2013-05-19 Thread Nick Payne
I had to get a replacement Synergy OCR rim from Velocity because the original rim cracked around several of the eyelets. I've also found that the Synergy rims in 650b are not very consistent in their diameter. Different Synergy rims that I've purchased at different times have varied in outer

[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

2013-05-19 Thread Jay Lonner
Before we started dating, my wife was in the market for a new bike and, and at the urging of an (IMHO) unethical salesman ended up buying a too-small Orbea carbon fiber wonderbike, complete with brifters, skinny tires, and a 53/39 double crankset. She is not an experienced cyclist, much less an

[RBW] Strange happenings out there

2013-05-19 Thread Alan Craig Barnard
It's definitely gotten better here (Sacramento) over the past 5-10 years, though its still fairly dismal. From my perspective, the issue seems to be more about the general view in the U.S. of cycling as a sporting activity, as opposed to a mode of transportation. Case in point, my daughter

[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

2013-05-19 Thread Chris Lampe 2
All of the bike shops I've been in have a pretty wide selection of bike styles and full-on road or mountain bikes are just a small segment of the stock on the floor. However, yesterday I was taking my wife's car for an oil change and happened to spot a bicycle store I didn't know existed.

[RBW] Re: Rivendell and Merry Sales Visit with Tommy.

2013-05-19 Thread zybariver
Manny, did the folks at Merry say when the Grand Randonneur and Wolverine were going to hit the market? Greg On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 12:14:28 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Tommy was in town for a week so it felt like old times riding with him. Some highlights. - Hanging out at Rivendell.

Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?

2013-05-19 Thread Leslie
The Atlas is like a beefed-up Synergy; the A23 is like a lighter Dyad. I haven't had any problems from my Synergies, but I like my A23 rims, and intend to keep building on them now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

[RBW] FS: Waterford RSE-22 F/F/HS with problems

2013-05-19 Thread Will
*Please read all of this if you are interested.* This is a gorgeous, one of a kind frame with some problems. It's 853 lugged steel, about the lightest lugged steel frame you can find. It was hand built by the master builders at Waterford, with Henry James investment cast dropouts and fork

[RBW] Re: Rivendell and Merry Sales Visit with Tommy.

2013-05-19 Thread Manuel Acosta
No idea. You could email/call them or check their blog. Evan updates it every once in a while. On Saturday, May 18, 2013 5:55:07 PM UTC-7, zybariver wrote: Manny, did the folks at Merry say when the Grand Randonneur and Wolverine were going to hit the market? Greg On Tuesday, May 14,

[RBW] Re: That Pugsley

2013-05-19 Thread Joe Bernard
I saw my first Pugsley in the wild on my ride through Benicia State Park today. What a cool bike! Riv content: The owner said he has a Roadeo, too. If that guy's here, apologies for not being able to stop and chat. My 'time I have to ride' window was rapidly closing. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA.

[RBW] Re: TOC Overnight Camp trip May 17-18th

2013-05-19 Thread Manuel Acosta
Trip happen. No need for ride recap because... Pictures proved that sometimes there are no need for words: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjF8yUYR -Manny Second Session Acosta On Sunday, May 12, 2013 6:15:58 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: For those that are interested in watching 10 seconds of people

Re: [RBW] Re: Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble - June 1st

2013-05-19 Thread Brian Hanson
It looks like there is about 77 snow at white pass today (5800 ft). Perhaps 4 ft of snow a thousand feet lower would be my uneducated guess. If temps stay in the 40s for the next few weeks, we may be OK. I like the looks of both routes, but would go with the lower one this time of year.