Re: [RBW] Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.

This is well said. Years ago, I remember Grant (or was it a guest writer?) saying in a Reader that frame material is the least important thing about a frame. Does anyone remember that article? The BQ test of that carbon fiber rando bike was very positive; the nits picked were with components, not

[RBW] Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.

I'm talking ride quality only, not function. Don't blow a gasket until you read this post in full. Steel, carbon, Alu, Ti, Rando-lite frames, etc. I just saw a RAAM documentary. Actually I have watched three of them. Those guys are mostly carbon, skinny tires, with bars waaay low, yet they do h

[RBW] Re: found and lost: looking for that photo of...

And this--but I still can't find the one I'm thinking of, now I cannot rest until I locate it! https://plus.google.com/photos/100636096569579893825/albums/5339413415971298593?banner=pwa Ryan On Friday, April 18, 2014 8:25:28 PM UTC-7, rcnute wrote: > > I think I know the one you're thinking of,

[RBW] SKF Bottom Bracket for Homer Hilsen

Does anyone know the optimal width for an SKS BB on an AHH running a Sugino triple to a SRAM 9sp on a Phil Wood cassette rear on a standard Dyad? Also, same BB and wheel but on a Hunqapillar with a white industries VBC double? Thanks a lotMark -- You received this message because you are s

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Fenders.....

Thanks for the replies. I think I read somewhere that the SKS 65mm fenders for 26" wheels would fit 700C. Does anyone know if this is true? I added a Nitto 32F and a wald basket which I love the look of, it seems far more capable than 4lbs load. Zack, what was your impetus for switching to the

[RBW] Re: Low trail, lightest tubing bikes really all that?

I went all out for a "Jan Heine" bike – Boulder Bicycle Allroad with the "skinny" top tube option (lightest combo), mated to Grand Bois Extra Leger Hetre tires and even latex tubes. After riding it for more than 1000 miles (brevets, commutes & weekend rides), I don't know if all that expense was

Re: [RBW] FS: Sam Hillborne - 60cm

I picked up a Quickbeam as my next only bike. Maybe I will put decals that say precious on the tubes. It will by my only precious bike for awhile. Matt On Friday, April 18, 2014 12:15:47 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > It's that Peter Jackson fella you need to worry about! > > > On

[RBW] Re: found and lost: looking for that photo of...

I think I know the one you're thinking of, in the meantime here's a similar one... https://www.flickr.com/photos/24103159@N08/3278181983/ Ryan On Friday, April 18, 2014 2:23:47 PM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: > > Ok- now where'd I see that?... ;-) > > Just recently I clicked past a (older?) ph

Re: [RBW] Re: found and lost: looking for that photo of...

Is it from Frank's photostream? Many great Rivs has he! https://www.flickr.com/photos/8531240@N06/ Ryan On Friday, April 18, 2014 3:43:22 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: > > I just uploaded > THISphoto of an > Orange/Blue road saved in my "Riv

[RBW] ISO Panniers

So was gonna take a shot and see if anyone has some canvas or other non plastic panniers they wanted to unload for a decent price. I just really want to test out the whole setup and see how I like it without taking a big hit if it doesn't work out. Thanks for any offers. Peter -- You received th

Re: [RBW] Re: Drum Brakes and Dynomos

I owned both an original SA Dynohub (no brake) and a rear Dynohub-cum-AW. I could have installed both on one bike for an additional 20 lb and a total of 6, or at least 4.8, volts. Really, I wish they had been less heavy, since they seemed very well made and they certainly were shiny. -- You recei

Re: [RBW] Re: Stem fitting page

That's it! Many thanks. Come to think of it, I may be all wet about its provenance with one of the "cyclos" -- if I confused others, please forgive. On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Garth wrote: > > Here is one I found quite useful, FWIW :) > > http://alex.phred.org/stemchart/Default.aspx > >

[RBW] Re: Stem fitting page

Here is one I found quite useful, FWIW :) http://alex.phred.org/stemchart/Default.aspx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+un

Re: [RBW] Re: Low trail, lightest tubing bikes really all that?

Trail debate? How about Root River Trail system vs. Elroy Sparta? One paved, one not. Unpaved has three good tunnels. Oh, not that type of trail. Never mind. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > My Ram also feels much quicker than my former Sam.

Re: [RBW] Re: Drum Brakes and Dynomos

SON hub on two bikes. Shimano 71 series on the other. All three lights are Lumotec IQ Cyo models. One with the senso function, the other two with just on and off. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: > I'm using a SON dynamo, and and older light. I do

Re: [RBW] Burly Piccolo/Panniers Question

Awesome, Eric! What a grand outing with the wee ones. Wonderfully done, and improvised for the campsite. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, April 18, 2014 4:26:19 PM UTC-6, Eric Daume wrote: > > Pics prove it can happen: > > > http://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/08/s24o-to-alum-creek-or-so

Re: [RBW] Re: Stem fitting page

For all I know, they are (they is) the spiritual twinship and alternating egos of one and the same domineering personality. Patrick "the secular one" Moore On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Ha! Phew! I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who thinks they are twins > separ

[RBW] Re: found and lost: looking for that photo of...

I thought the Rams were Green and Gold?? On Friday, April 18, 2014 4:22:31 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Orange and green ... the colors of the college in the town I grew up in: > CSU in Fort Collins, CO. I had no idea you were a fan, Jinxed. Grin. > > With abandon, > Patrick, who never par

Re: [RBW] Re: found and lost: looking for that photo of...

I just uploaded THISphoto of an Orange/Blue road saved in my "RivBike" folder but cannot find the original source! I will keep looking for the original photo credit. PLEASE chime in if you recognize it...I will remove it from my flickr.

Re: [RBW] Re: found and lost: looking for that photo of...

Hmmm. Except, I had thought (from the photo I saw, maybe color had shifted...), it was orange and blue! I'd not seen AC's photos of it, previously. =- Joe On 4/18/14, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Orange and green ... the colors of the college in the town I grew up in: > CSU in Fort Collins, CO. I had

Re: [RBW] Burly Piccolo/Panniers Question

Pics prove it can happen: http://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/08/s24o-to-alum-creek-or-so-i-thought.html On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Peter Morgano wrote: > I know some fellow listers have used the Piccolo/Moose Rack, I just don't > know if it would work with panniers. I want to pack up t

[RBW] Re: Stem fitting page

Ha! Phew! I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who thinks they are twins separated at birth and can't tell 'um apart. Grin. With abandon, Patrick of the highlands, not to be confused with my twin, Patrick of the moor. On Friday, April 18, 2014 4:11:37 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: > > One of

[RBW] Re: found and lost: looking for that photo of...

Orange and green ... the colors of the college in the town I grew up in: CSU in Fort Collins, CO. I had no idea you were a fan, Jinxed. Grin. With abandon, Patrick, who never particularly followed the Rams, but went to high school across the street from them. On Friday, April 18, 2014 4:10:12 P

[RBW] Re: Rivendell: Normcore for Cyclists?

RC Cola in clear bottle . . . . Yep ! yum.As were the Ice Cream sandwiches from Earl's Service Station , circa Minnesota 1974 !When service stations really were service stations, with barely enough room inside for a few cans on oil, the cash register, a pop machine(the cool kind, w

[RBW] Stem fitting page

One of the "Cyclos" -- cyclotourist or cyclofiend -- constructed an interactive stem measurement page that I found very helpful. I looked for it just now to find that I've lost the link. Can the correct "cyclo" send it? Many thanks. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews.

[RBW] Re: found and lost: looking for that photo of...

Yep. I've saved a few pics of this beauty because it's the best color combo I've seen on a Rivendell. https://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/131505977/in/set-72057594118986144/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/2439636153/in/set-72057594118986144 -- You received this mess

Re: [RBW] 26" Tire Suggestions?

One more remark: from my experience with several sets of Big Apples of various sizes and types, and two sets of Kojaks: the benefit of these Schwalbes is that they have nice, supple sidewalls even with puncture layers under the tread, which I surmise accounts for their nice ride and their relative

Re: [RBW] 26" Tire Suggestions?

It has been 10 years or so, but I did use these, as they were back then, on a beater with not unpleasant results. That is to say that my recollection of them is not of something horrible. I daresay they are not as nice as similarly wide Kojaks, which many praise. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:28 AM,

Re: [RBW] Heavy chain lubes for wet conditions.

Zack: I don't think we're really that far apart on waxing; just wanted to note the difference between hot waxing and wax-type, bottled lubes. I agree that heavy lubes work much better in the wet (at least, the light lubes and the wax I've used do not stand up well to our very occasional, but often

Re: [RBW] Re: Low trail, lightest tubing bikes really all that?

My Ram also feels much quicker than my former Sam. I don't know if it's tubing or geometry, but the Sam, nice as it was, wasn't a fast road bike. I daresay that the Roadeo feels faster than the Ram. Regarding Riv versus low trail Rando: one thing that Riv has is a particular handling quality that

[RBW] Re: found and lost: looking for that photo of...

Ha- Peter M is on top of this case and has found a different shot of, I believe, the same bike - now, who's is this?! Cyberstalking-ly, I think given Ms. Larson's locale this is somewhere abouts Eugene, Oregon: https://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/7298584094/ =- Joe On 4/18/14, Joe Bun

[RBW] Re: Burly Piccolo/Panniers Question

I can confirm that the moose rack works with panniers with the piccolo installed. I have been doing this for many years, although my youngest is now on his own bike and likely won't be getting on the piccolo anymore. Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google G

[RBW] found and lost: looking for that photo of...

Ok- now where'd I see that?... ;-) Just recently I clicked past a (older?) photo of someone's quite distinctive Riv Road(?) - painted a pumpkin orange w/ a blue headtube (think: Cheviot colors but gasp, dark ht.!). The build included a Mavic starfish crank prompting someone to quip "Rivendell tim

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell: Normcore for Cyclists?

> > My first non-paper route job was at nine years old organizing the returned > bottles at Cole's Market in Pleasanton, Ca. Fifteen dollars a week for > about 5 hours of work per. I did it on my way home from school each day. I > was rich. I bought cool bikes. These things start early, for som

[RBW] Re: 26" wheel fenders (SKS)

I bet either the SKS P-55 or P-60 would work. Ryan On Friday, April 18, 2014 1:32:48 PM UTC-7, jandrews_nyc wrote: > > Has anyone used the longboards on 26" wheels? > Pics? > What plastic fenders are recommended for the Compass 1.75" tires? > I'm speeding up my wife's Bruce Gordon BLT and repla

Re: [RBW] 26" wheel fenders (SKS)

Jason- SKS recommends their P55 for 26 x 1.75 tires. Available in silver or black. But the P55s are standard length, not longboard, and come with no mudflaps. You could probably make longboard P45s work, but it may be tricky to get a good fender line. You'd be reducing the fender radius a bit

[RBW] Re: WTB: Bottle Dyno and Headlamp

A quality/bright battery light would be fantastic too. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@go

[RBW] 26" wheel fenders (SKS)

Has anyone used the longboards on 26" wheels? Pics? What plastic fenders are recommended for the Compass 1.75" tires? I'm speeding up my wife's Bruce Gordon BLT and replacing the Marathons and V.O. stainless fenders. Thank you Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to th

Re: [RBW] Re: Drum Brakes and Dynomos

If flashing lights are a problem. I would skip a dyno for lights. Long, slow climbs will cause the light to pulse at low speed . Mayberry get a dyno hub and use it to charger a set of back up batteries? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bu

[RBW] Re: Burly Piccolo/Panniers Question

Hugh The Moose Rack, the one Bikeman has does work with panniers. The design detail that is hard to see in that photo is that the top rails on the rack platform jig-jag inward about a centimeter for the area where the piccolo clamp lives. For that reason the piccolo clamp is flush with the ou

Re: [RBW] Re: Burly Piccolo/Panniers Question

I do have the piccolo already, sorry bill, free shipping from Amazon is too tempting. UPS prices just went up again, quietly of course. I was gonna go with the Minnehaha panniers from VO, I imagine I could just bend out the hooks on top if the tubing is too fat. Would love Sackvilles but they look

[RBW] Re: Burly Piccolo/Panniers Question

Peter, The one that Bikeman has does not look like it'd work with panniers, this one would. http://penncycle.com/product/burley-tailwind-rack-161502-1.htm?variations=176249&gclid=CNqLyrPr6r0CFcRefgodLF8A7Q ~Hugh On Friday, April 18, 2014 12:58:25 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: > > I know some fello

[RBW] Re: Burly Piccolo/Panniers Question

Peter Yes, you can run panniers Do you have the Piccolo already? If not, buy mine for cheap. My kids have outgrown it. I have two moose racks so you can set up two bikes for one Piccolo When the Piccolo is on there, you just hang your pannier on there as if the Piccolo wasn't there. It to

Re: [RBW] Re: Drum Brakes and Dynomos

I'm using a SON dynamo, and and older light. I don't remember which light it is, but it's five or six years old. Trying to figure out what light to install on my new bike. It has to be something that clamps on the bars. On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 5:55 AM, David Banzer wrote: > Eric and Anne. > Wh

[RBW] Burly Piccolo/Panniers Question

I know some fellow listers have used the Piccolo/Moose Rack, I just don't know if it would work with panniers. I want to pack up the bike for picnics and s24s with the kiddo but don't know if there is any real estate left for panniers once the bike is attached to the rack. I haven't used panniers i

[RBW] Re: Low trail, lightest tubing bikes really all that?

I've found that most of us adjust fairly quickly to either design and can be happy with either. I ended up with a preference for flexier bikes and the low trail design works better when carrying a load with a lighter, more flexy frame. The bike can use lighter tubing when weight distribution i

Re: [RBW] Re: Low trail, lightest tubing bikes really all that?

http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/trailcalc.php trail is the opposite of what it sounds like. High offset fork means low-trail and give it a stable on-center feel. Racing bikes are more aggressive, steer quickly, and turn hard with any lean or steering input. On Friday, April 18, 2014 12:25

Re: [RBW] Re: Low trail, lightest tubing bikes really all that?

I don't know what my bike's trail is, but whatever it is, I like it. On Friday, April 18, 2014 11:16:22 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Don't worry, Eric. Any zealot from either camp can chirp in and tell me > that I don't like one of my bikes, or can tell me that the reason I don't > like on

Re: [RBW] FS: Sam Hillborne - 60cm

It's that Peter Jackson fella you need to worry about! On Friday, April 18, 2014 9:45:35 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Those two ornaments would definitely get the attention of the Tolkein > estate. Heck, don't be surprised if they claim to hold the legal rights to > the word "precious".

Re: [RBW] FS: Sam Hillborne - 60cm

Uh-m. MY precious. Mine. Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! MINE! My Preess-iouuusss.sss..sss. And while I think I possess it, the truth is it possesses me. Sardonic grin. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, April 18, 2014 8:30:57 AM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo

Re: [RBW] Re: Low trail, lightest tubing bikes really all that?

Snore!?!?!? This is the opportunity to run and get the popcorn out for the Great Trail Debate of 2014. On Friday, April 18, 2014 9:18:26 AM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote: > > Snoorr > > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Bill Lindsay > > wrote: > >> Don't worry, Eric. Any

Re: [RBW] FS: Sam Hillborne - 60cm

Those two ornaments would definitely get the attention of the Tolkein estate. Heck, don't be surprised if they claim to hold the legal rights to the word "precious". On Friday, April 18, 2014 7:32:25 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > Gollum headbadge and a ring seat tube ornament... -- Yo

Re: [RBW] Re: Low trail, lightest tubing bikes really all that?

Snoorr On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Don't worry, Eric. Any zealot from either camp can chirp in and tell me > that I don't like one of my bikes, or can tell me that the reason I don't > like one of my bikes is that I don't know any better, and that

Re: [RBW] Re: Low trail, lightest tubing bikes really all that?

Don't worry, Eric. Any zealot from either camp can chirp in and tell me that I don't like one of my bikes, or can tell me that the reason I don't like one of my bikes is that I don't know any better, and that usually draws me in to a argument. :-) On Friday, April 18, 2014 4:13:28 AM UTC-7,

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell: Normcore for Cyclists?

President's Choice Diet Cola On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Zack wrote: > I would think Clearly Canadian or New York Seltzer > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving email

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell: Normcore for Cyclists?

On 4/18/14, Zack wrote: > I would think Clearly Canadian or New York Seltzer > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubs

[RBW] Re: Rivendell: Normcore for Cyclists?

I would think Clearly Canadian or New York Seltzer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

[RBW] Re: Sale ends in one hour!

that's quite a savings On Friday, April 18, 2014 9:53:58 AM UTC-5, Peter M wrote: > > I know this has been covered before but in my trollings on ebay it always > makes me chuckle. > > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/RIVENDELL-WATER-BOTTLE-BIDON-MADE-BY-SPECIALIZED-SMALL-BLUE-/271314266688?pt=LH_Default

[RBW] Sale ends in one hour!

I know this has been covered before but in my trollings on ebay it always makes me chuckle. http://www.ebay.com/itm/RIVENDELL-WATER-BOTTLE-BIDON-MADE-BY-SPECIALIZED-SMALL-BLUE-/271314266688?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f2b972a40 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the G

Re: [RBW] FS: Sam Hillborne - 60cm

Gollum headbadge and a ring seat tube ornament... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to t

Re: [RBW] FS: Sam Hillborne - 60cm

'The precious'. -love it!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send ema

[RBW] Re: Rivendell: Normcore for Cyclists?

Pabst ? Ahahaahahaha ! Back in "my day" , the 60/70's , I had a friend whos Dad was a Pabst distributor , so their basement was like a bar with Pabst stuff everywhere . . . I mean all all sorts of stuff. And the fridge was always stocked with Pabst and Pop. Oh yes . . . and the bottles

Re: [RBW] Re: Drum Brakes and Dynomos

Flashing or unsteady light at low speeds would be a problem that would end my ride, that is true. Excellent point to consider, considering most rides start out with climbs from my house. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, April 18, 2014 4:56:19 AM UTC-6, EricP wrote: > > Anne, > > Not saying it d

[RBW] Re: WTB: Bottle Dyno and Headlamp

I'd second what Ian said. Bottle dynamos CAN be fun on certain bikes, but a dynamo hub is going to be more reliable and less to worry about. David Chicago On Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:57:44 PM UTC-5, IanA wrote: > > If sold on a dynamo system, one might consider waiting a bit longer and > just

Re: [RBW] Re: Drum Brakes and Dynomos

Eric and Anne. What dynamo hubs are you using with which specific lights (a few Cyo models now)? Might help to have that information. David Chicago On Friday, April 18, 2014 5:56:19 AM UTC-5, EricP wrote: > > Anne, > > Not saying it doesn't work. Just saying I personally can see a flicker in >

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell: Normcore for Cyclists?

the entire concept of choosing what you're going to drink so that others can see you drinking it is too weird for words On Thursday, April 17, 2014 3:39:59 PM UTC-5, RJM wrote: > > So, what do normcore fashionistas drink? Hipsters seemed to like Pabst > Blue Ribbon, I saw many bars switch taps t

Re: [RBW] Re: Low trail, lightest tubing bikes really all that?

Bill, don't you know you're supposed to be in one camp or the other? How can we argue with viewpoints like this? I had a low trail, skinny tubed (7/4/7 non-OS) Rawland Nordavinden at the same time as my Surly Crosscheck (9/6/9 OS). Yes, the Rawland did indeed have a livelier ride that I enjoyed, a

Re: [RBW] Re: Drum Brakes and Dynomos

Anne, Not saying it doesn't work. Just saying I personally can see a flicker in the light at those speeds. Just thinking about Patrick and wondering if that would cause balance issues. Also it is possible (probable?) the newer lights have a better capacitor and don't flicker as much. That's wh