Re: [RBW] Cranky Crank VO Replacement

2014-06-19 Thread Michael Hechmer
I assume that if you buy the XD 600 from RBW you get stock sugino rings, not the new (and very nice) Silver rings? Also, despite what their web site says, I find ramps and pins help friction shifting, not just indexed. Michael On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 8:11:31 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:

[RBW] Re: Wanna Join? Meandoneering in Colorado

2014-06-19 Thread Deacon Patrick
A scent free Highland Entmoot next year. I like it! Dates: in general, this is open for me, so whenever you are here works. For this year, there are town events July 4-6, 11-12, 19-20, August 2-3 that I will go bikepacking if at all possible. For next year, those same weekend are usually when

[RBW] WTT - Noodles for Alba/Bosco

2014-06-19 Thread Tony DeFilippo
I've got a nice set of 44cm noodles, pictures available. I'm setting up a 1977 Raleigh three speed step thru for my Mom and I'd love to find albatross bars in particular. I was thinking straight trade but I'm open to offers. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/19/2014 01:39 AM, Brewster Fong wrote: On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:42:44 PM UTC-7, Tim McNamara wrote: On Jun 18, 2014, at 5:22 PM, Michael john1...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: So why is 531 so great? Seems like alotta people really like these frames. Special

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Tim Gavin
http://bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.com/2013/12/reynolds-tubing.htmlReynolds 531: Classic Tubes http://bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.com/2013/12/reynolds-tubing.html I can't add much to this, except that my Riv Road is 753 with a 531 fork, and it's fabulous. :) On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 5:55 AM, Steve

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/19/2014 07:48 AM, Tim Gavin wrote: http://bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.com/2013/12/reynolds-tubing.htmlReynolds 531: Classic Tubes http://bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.com/2013/12/reynolds-tubing.html I can't add much to this, except that my Riv Road is 753 with a 531 fork, and it's fabulous.

[RBW] Re: The Perfect Bag

2014-06-19 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
A man after my own heart--bag improvements! I finally decided saddlebags didn't work for me, but I am always in pursuit of the ultimate handlebar bag! See http://lawschoolissoover.wordpress.com/2012/11/14/building-a-near-perfect-beast-hacking-the-real-world/ On Wednesday, June 18, 2014

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Ron Mc
The answers are really easy. You gotta start somewhere. Reynolds 531 is the benchmark, with other Cr-Mo butted tubing makers following suite - especially the Japanese. Campagnolo Gran Sport is no better than Zeus Gran Sport, but the latter copied the former so Zeus was always Avis in its

[RBW] Re: The Perfect Bag

2014-06-19 Thread Ron Mc
the perfect bag is a short-term answer to an instantaneous need. It may be the same for the next ride, it may be different. The more choices the merrier. On Thursday, June 19, 2014 8:20:30 AM UTC-5, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote: A man after my own heart--bag improvements! I finally

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Michael
So 531 denotes the mixture of metals in it? It came in different configurations of butting and wall thicknesses? So people may be raving about the wall thickness, not so much about the 531-ness itself? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Ron Mc
531 is the Reynolds brand name for their first grade of alloy steel (Cr-Mo) high-strength tubing. It came in straight gauge and double butted lengths of different thickness. On Thursday, June 19, 2014 9:23:34 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote: So 531 denotes the mixture of metals in it? It came in

Re: [RBW] Cranky Crank VO Replacement

2014-06-19 Thread Michael
I think this is the interesting article I once read which explains having, vs. not having, ramps and pins. http://janheine.wordpress.com/2013/04/23/chainring-choice-or-shifting-ramps/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Ryan
Actually I thought it was manganese and not chrome moly. That being said, the first good bike I bought and could afford was a Peugeot PX-10. I'm riding the third version of this bike; the first 2 were stolen. It's 531 through out, but it has a tange cro-moly fork because the original fork had

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Hugh Flynn
531, I believe, describes the cro-moly mixture. However, 531 tubes were offered in different configurations (straight gauge or butted and probably a range of other details). Since riders didn't always know the configuration differences between two frames that bore the 531 sticker, it would be

[RBW] Re: My Heron build

2014-06-19 Thread Ryan
That's a great bike...I really liked those Herons. On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:09:06 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: I love it, Ted. I bought new end caps to re-space the rear hub, and think I'm going to stick with the 650 conversion for a while. But one day I'm going to get some

[RBW] Clem Swift

2014-06-19 Thread Conway Bennett
Clem rack should be here today. It's gonna be a front rack replacing the perfectly good but not able to carry panniers original athlete 2B I bought from Riv back when they stocked em. I bought it immediately after the Instagram photo went live . I'm excited to see my Swift panniers mated to

[RBW] Re: Cranky Crank VO Replacement

2014-06-19 Thread Garth
http://www.spacycles.co.uk/smsimg/2/2801-8798-full-new_impact_triple-2.jpg There is also the New Stronglight Impact Triple, or double. Unlike the previous ones which were rebranded or Sugino copies, these are entirely different with a 5 external bolt pattern :)

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/19/2014 12:11 PM, Hugh Flynn wrote: 531, I believe, describes the cro-moly mixture. Manganese-molybdenum However, 531 tubes were offered in different configurations (straight gauge or butted and probably a range of other details). various wall thicknesses Since riders didn't

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/19/2014 10:30 AM, Ron Mc wrote: 531 is the Reynolds brand name for their first grade of alloy steel (Cr-Mo) high-strength tubing. It came in straight gauge and double butted lengths of different thickness. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_531 ...manganese–molybdenum,

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Joe Bernard
Grant actually did this type of test for Bicycle Guide in the early 90's. It may be on the internets somewhere if someone wants to dig around for it. JB On Thursday, June 19, 2014 9:11:20 AM UTC-7, Hugh Flynn wrote: 531, I believe, describes the cro-moly mixture. However, 531 tubes were

[RBW] Re: Clem Swift

2014-06-19 Thread Bill Lindsay
Martina is extremely nice. On Thursday, June 19, 2014 9:49:17 AM UTC-7, Conway Bennett wrote: Clem rack should be here today. It's gonna be a front rack replacing the perfectly good but not able to carry panniers original athlete 2B I bought from Riv back when they stocked em. I bought

[RBW] Re: Wanna Join? Meandoneering in Colorado

2014-06-19 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
When I was a kid we used to take a trip to the Colorado Springs area pretty much every year and my memory of Phantom Canyon is that it might as well be singletrack. Is it still a one-lane, rock and gravel road with straight stretchs no more than a few feet at a time? On Friday, June 6, 2014

[RBW] Re: The Perfect Bag

2014-06-19 Thread Pondero
I love clever bag hacks, and delight in witnessing my friends optimizing their bags for their own purposes and personalities. I even enjoy experimenting myself. Lately, however, I've gravitated back to the buckle saddlebag for a variety of reasons...one of which is BECAUSE it is slower. The

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Hugh Flynn
On Jun 19, 2014, at 1:34 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: Since riders didn't always know the configuration differences between two frames that bore the 531 sticker, it would be difficult to determine whether people who rave about 531 (and I am one) are raving about the mixture, the

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Ron Mc
ok Steve, I was wrong and your're wrong-headed, what the hell. In the US we call that C-Mo steel and don't think too much of its properties. Managese steel is a different animal, we make car crushing hammers out of it. On Thursday, June 19, 2014 12:38:31 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/19/2014 02:42 PM, Ron Mc wrote: ok Steve, I was wrong and your're wrong-headed, what the hell. In the US we call that C-Mo steel and don't think too much of its properties. Managese steel is a different animal, we make car crushing hammers out of it. In the US we call the alloy of

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Peter Morgano
Sheldon at one point had a chart with all the reynolds tube sets over the years with alloy mixes and tube thicknesses. Where did it go Internet? On Jun 19, 2014 2:57 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 06/19/2014 02:42 PM, Ron Mc wrote: ok Steve, I was wrong and your're

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Tim Gavin
http://www.equusbicycle.com/bike/reynolds/Reynolds-tubing-sizes.jpg Reynolds Tubing sizes. I don't know when this chart is from; probably mid to late 80s. On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Sheldon at one point had a chart with all the reynolds tube

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Peter Morgano
Beautiful, thanks! On Jun 19, 2014 3:11 PM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com wrote: http://www.equusbicycle.com/bike/reynolds/Reynolds-tubing-sizes.jpg Reynolds Tubing sizes. I don't know when this chart is from; probably mid to late 80s. On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Peter

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Garth
The above link doesn't work for me, this does : ) ! http://www.equusbicycle.com/bike/reynolds/constructorstubeguide.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Peter Morgano
I know I had an older version at some point too, it was 3 pages on a pdf viewer. On Jun 19, 2014 3:28 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: The above link doesn't work for me, this does : ) ! http://www.equusbicycle.com/bike/reynolds/constructorstubeguide.htm -- You received this message

[RBW] Riv steel tube wall thicknesses? Proprietary or public?

2014-06-19 Thread Michael
Anyone know? I am interested to see what the blue Sams from 2013 are. Thanks for any info. Also, Bleriots. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Wanna Join? Meandoneering in Colorado

2014-06-19 Thread Deacon Patrick
I think you mostly remember correctly, though it's clearly a two lane dirt road for around here (though given the terrain, folks are often uncomfortable near the edges, so drive near the middle, making it one lane). It's as wide as it appears in old photos from just after it was converted to

Re: [RBW] My Heron build

2014-06-19 Thread Ryan
I remember that you wrote about this in your blog, and I thought it was a very heartwarming story at the time. I think your wife is a really lucky lady and the Heron is not a bad consolation prize...and you also wrote a very nice piece about your all-rounder, which I hope is still going

[RBW] Re: Riv steel tube wall thicknesses? Proprietary or public?

2014-06-19 Thread dougP
Wouldn't the tube wall thickness also vary with the size of the bike? Seems like a lot variables in play, and as they say, specifications subject to change without notice. dougP On Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:12:44 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Anyone know? I am interested to see what the blue

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv steel tube wall thicknesses? Proprietary or public?

2014-06-19 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/19/2014 05:28 PM, dougP wrote: Wouldn't the tube wall thickness also vary with the size of the bike? I do seem to recall the Rambouillet having been made with OS 8/5/8, and in all sizes, as far as I can recall. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Cranky Crank VO Replacement

2014-06-19 Thread Michael Hechmer
Yes, I remember reading that article, as ell as this from Peter White's web page: The quickest shifting on triple chainring cranks with Shimano's STI shifters can be had only with matched sets of chainrings. For example, the nine speed Shimano Ultegra Triple crankset 6503 comes with three

[RBW] Re: My Heron build

2014-06-19 Thread Michael
I keep looking at the pic. That's a really nice blue color. Is it original? Also, do you have a pic of the headbadge you could post? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Michael
So, according to the chart, 531 Competition had the lightest tubing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Michael
So, according to the chart, 531 Competition had the lightest tubing walls of all the 531 tubesets. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Peter Morgano
It's not complete list though I had a 531 super light set once, had a red label. My brain is mush today. On Jun 19, 2014 6:26 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: So, according to the chart, 531 Competition had the lightest tubing walls of all the 531 tubesets. -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: Pics of your Riv with a wild animal...

2014-06-19 Thread Eunice Chang
Does this count? He can be wild, especially when there are other dogs involved... https://www.flickr.com/photos/ejchang/14459869784/ A few days ago, Thumper (AHH) met a rabbit in my driveway. They engaged in some sort of intra? inter? species standoff. The Riv won, of course. No photos, alas...

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Peter Morgano
Here it be! http://wyganowskiframes.com/?attachment_id=802 On Jun 19, 2014 6:32 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: It's not complete list though I had a 531 super light set once, had a red label. My brain is mush today. On Jun 19, 2014 6:26 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com

[RBW] WTT for Alba bar

2014-06-19 Thread 'Tex69' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'm looking to try out an Albatross bar for my summer Atlantis riding and have three different options to dangle out there for a trade. *Riv-purchased Moustache bar 25.4. Very good condition *Nitto Grand Randoneur 135. Very good condition. Narrow up top, comfy flare on bottom *WTB Dirt Drop-

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/19/2014 06:26 PM, Michael wrote: So, according to the chart, 531 Competition had the lightest tubing walls of all the 531 tubesets. That's true. However, the chart we're speaking of didn't list all the varieties of 531 there ever were. I recall seeing a photo of a French

[RBW] Re: My Heron build

2014-06-19 Thread Marty
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mo2MlOONJfM/U6Nq70b8TNI/AI8/DXMuCk9vzts/s1600/Heron+PC.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Bill Lindsay
I agree that 531C is/was on the stouter end of the roadie spectrum. That's what they used on the Trek 720 in the early 80s http://images.craigslist.org/00w0w_dMJDk5VEpEb_600x450.jpg On Thursday, June 19, 2014 3:43:27 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 06/19/2014 06:26 PM, Michael wrote:

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Bruce Herbitter
I don't believe we use managese steels to do anything with Ron :) And no, we don't call it Cro-Moly here in the states. They are different alloys and have different physical properties. On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: ok Steve, I was wrong and your're

Re: [RBW] Riv steel tube wall thicknesses? Proprietary or public?

2014-06-19 Thread Bruce Herbitter
They've published tube specs in the past (Ram for instance) but have drifted away from that. I think they want to think about the bike and the ride, not the tubing itself.. On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know? I am interested to see what the blue

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/19/2014 08:04 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: I agree that 531C is/was on the stouter end of the roadie spectrum. That's what they used on the Trek 720 in the early 80s Stouter? I think you have that wrong: the SuperTourist was stout. 531C was fairly light gauge, and only the SL

Re: [RBW] FS: Nigel Smythe green plaid fender flap

2014-06-19 Thread Patrick Moore
Is it Scotchguarded??? Patrick just kiddin' Moore On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: The most ridiculously expensive fender flap ever. I think it was about 25 bucks, and I think I threw it in a $300 cart in order to qualify for a frame giveaway.

[RBW] Re: Riv steel tube wall thicknesses? Proprietary or public?

2014-06-19 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
My experience has been that RBW is more open with their tubing specs than a lot of other bicycle companies. The guys who sell my current bike frame didn't even respond to my e-mail query about tubing thickness. It's about as generic a bike as you can get so I don't know what big secret they

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread Patrick Moore
It ain't no chromoly. From that inexorable arbiter, Wiki: *Reynolds 531* (pronounced 'five-three-one') is a brand name http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brand_name, registered to Reynolds Cycle Technology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_Cycle_Technology of Birmingham

Re: [RBW] My Heron build

2014-06-19 Thread Patrick Moore
Nice-a! (Is that ... could it be ... no, but ... is that a flipped Moustache bar) On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still pretty lame at posting pics, but here's an attempt. I picked up this Rive-designed, Waterford-built early Heron Road from

Re: [RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-19 Thread ted
Chapter two of http://www.classicrendezvous.com/publications/thecustombicycle.pdf (on tubing) may interest some of you. Actually I like the whole book. Some friends gave me a copy back in the 70s. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

Re: [RBW] FS: Nigel Smythe green plaid fender flap

2014-06-19 Thread Joe Bernard
SOLD! On Thursday, June 19, 2014 6:56:41 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Is it Scotchguarded??? Patrick just kiddin' Moore On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: The most ridiculously expensive fender flap ever. I think it was about 25

[RBW] Re: My Heron build

2014-06-19 Thread Joe Bernard
Yes, it's original paint. It was called blue on the original Heron site, but it's really a metallic blue/green mix. In the sun the green really shows up..very pretty. If you go to my Twitter @JosephRemiB and scroll through my Images, you'll see a shot of it outside in the sun. Patrick, that's

[RBW] Re: FS honjo, nitto, etc

2014-06-19 Thread Jason Leach
The two racks and the fenders are spoken for. The tires are still available. Thanks. Jason On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 1:38 PM, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote: I have a few things to move out. All prices do not include shipping Honjo hammered 700x43 (good for 28-32 tires) plus hardware - $60

[RBW] FS - Silver Shifters

2014-06-19 Thread 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch
Used pair, slight scratches and signs of use. I've used these about 2 yrs / 1500 miles on my touring bike (Sam Hillbourne). $60 and I will cover postage, CONUS. Please contact me off-list. Photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157645257690764/ Paul Germain Midlothian,