[RBW] Re: Nitto big front + Arkel cam lock=???

i ended up emailing arkel about it. officially, arkel says the two are incompatible. maybe there are workarounds, but thats the word. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Bruce Gordon R lifespan?

I have had these tires for a full season and just switched the rear to the front. I have been very impressed with the grippiness, I will be replacing them when worn out with another pair, they seem like the perfect tire for my All Rounder. Steve Plymouth, New Hampshire On Tuesday, December 1,

[RBW] Re: Is Joe the evolved Sam?

Bill, I am one who would want just a frameset. If it were offered like a Clem, for a $700 presale (wow wasn't that a great deal!) I would have jumped on it, transferred everything over from my Sam and sold the Sam frameset. But it was not to be. Reading your email ALMOST made me want to order

[RBW] Re: Michigan Rivendell Owners

I have a large fleet of large Rivendell's 64cm-71cm in North Muskegon and another frequent poster is in Twin Lake just Northeast of myself. Ryan Hankinson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Bruce Gordon R lifespan?

2.5 years sounds pretty good to me on those tires. They are pretty supplenice ride but don't last as long as tires with stiffer casings...Not really a good tire to commute on in my opinion (unless you're lucky enough to have a commute that is mostly singletrack) On Tuesday, December 1,

[RBW] Re: Is Joe the evolved Sam?

I expect the Joe will ride a lot like a Sam. It will have all the benefits of wider tires. I expect it to ride "Like a Rivendell". Regarding the numerous people who want a frameset. I understand, completely. I have all the parts to pull together two or three builds, also. But think

[RBW] Re: Is Joe the evolved Sam?

I'm sure as the audience for Rivs and the number of dealers grow, it may make sense to offer many of the "more affordable" options as complete instead of f/f/hs/bb. Working w/ the dealers, I'm sure it's much easier to move the Rivs once people can actually ride them. Just my $.02 Best, Eric

[RBW] Re: Is Joe the evolved Sam?

I screwed up. I said the Silver Hubset was $110. The rear hub is $110. The front is $75. $185 for the hubset. At any rate, I think that even the Appaloosa complete at $2500 is a solid deal. On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 1:30:53 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > I expect the Joe will

[RBW] Re: Nitto big front + Arkel cam lock=???

With my ditto rear rack on the Bombadil I put the Arkel cam lock system into the front triangle. It will not fit the rear one so I just moved the rear cam lock towards the front of the bike just inside the rear triangle. Been riding that way for years with zero problems. Kelly On

Re: [RBW] Bruce Gordon R lifespan?

I have a set and the rear tire wears out in the center quickly. Maybe 500-700 miles on the rear. Still great tires but I only use them for dirt rides if possible and now try to rotate the tires to get equal wear. Great for single track but slight buzzing on the roads. I'm taking them on an

[RBW] Re: Is Joe the evolved Sam?

Just sold my Surly Pugsley, the want is high for the Joe, but alas I think my Sam will do with the Albatross bars I have coming. I need a winter/commuter bike I am not afraid to lock up..A Riv that bike probably won't do -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: FS: Acorn Tall Rando Bag - Ranger Tan

Sold! On Saturday, November 28, 2015 at 4:59:27 PM UTC-8, Michael Ullmer wrote: > > Bump! and price drop, $170 shipped CONUS. > > On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 10:08:50 AM UTC-8, Michael Ullmer wrote: >> >> Here is a link to my CL post for the bag: >> >>

[RBW] Re: Nitto big front + Arkel cam lock=???

But why? Swift's low tech system is so damn good. On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 6:21:26 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote: > > With my ditto rear rack on the Bombadil I put the Arkel cam lock system > into the front triangle. It will not fit the rear one so I just moved the > rear cam lock towards the

[RBW] Re: Is Joe the evolved Sam?

Well the Appaloosa frame is never going to be $700. It's fully lugged. The Clem frame was $700 largely because of how lugless it is. Three sizes vs Five also helped. IF they ever offer an Appaloosa frame, it will definitely cost more than a Hillborne. On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at

[RBW] Velocity Dyad/Aerohead vs Atlas

Someone mentioned the VO Diagonale rims...I have over 12,000 miles on a set I built and they have done well and true with lots of rough rides and gravel roads...your mileage may vary... meade...lamenting the early loss of daylight these days... -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Heat Gun to Attach Patches to Bags

Paul I'm dropping off all my bags for you to do the surgery..'er addition of patches...in exchange for new bike routes, brews, cash...or whatever... I'll have to pull out the hot glue gun... see ya meade > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Michigan Rivendell Owners

Hi Ryan, Just a Rivendell fan, so far. I'm sure I will have one eventually. Would love to see your bikes sometime. I traded a Klein frame for an old 531 Mercier 300 with a guy in Grand Rapids that had a gorgeous Atlantis. My wife mocked me terribly because of my reaction to it, total kid in

[RBW] Re: FS: Acorn Tall Rando Bag - Ranger Tan

Was waiting for Michael's bag to sell, before posting. I have the same bag that I'd sell for the same price. $170 shipped conUS. Contact me off-list if interested. Thanks, David Chicago On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 6:42:23 PM UTC-6, Michael Ullmer wrote: > > Sold! > > On Saturday, November

[RBW] My First Date With Clementine

Although I've heard about the legendary packing kung fu of Rivendell, this is my first Riv bike, and I was duly impressed. I had it delivered to a friend's health food store, and I walked

[RBW] Bicycle Quarterly flip book

We put together an online *Bicycle Quarterly* flip book with 33 pages of sample articles. These include an excerpt of our tire tests, a report from a gravel Super Randonnée 600, and Raymond Henry's article about women in mid-century French randonneuring. Check it out at

[RBW] Nitto big front + Arkel cam lock=???

i just used swift industries cyber monday deal to get some custom bags. they offer standard hardware (hooks and bungee) or arkel hardware for a fee. ive read that arkel hardware doesnt mesh well with the nitto big back rack because the triangular supports get in the way of the cam system.

Re: [RBW] Nitto big front + Arkel cam lock=???

The triangular bracing could interfere with the attachment hooks of any style that surrounds the tubing (Arkel, Ortlieb, etc), compared to simple hooks that just go over the top of the tubing. It's not much of a problem if the attachment hooks are on a rail (like Ortlieb) and can be slid for and

Re: [RBW] Bruce Gordon R lifespan?

Morning Conway, I could not help but notice your email with my name in the subject. I have spoke to my contact at Panaracer USA. If you say that the tire is 2.5 years old with I think 2500 miles - it may be near it’s useful life (tires do not last forever - especially with subtle sidewalls).

[RBW] For Sale Riv items MUSA, Sackville, Clem

Hi Everyone, I have a few items Riv items I am looking to sell. Prefer local transaction but willing to ship as long as you cover costs and Paypal is fine and preferred as long as fees are covered or payment is sent as friend, cash is always king, checks will work but will be cleared first

[RBW] Re: Nitto big front + Arkel cam lock=???

that's good to hear. it was more of a "if im going custom, why not go for the upgrade mounting option too" sort of thing. i've only ever run fairly cheap and basic and low tech panniers. my experience has varied from never-quite-secure to so-secure-it-takes-15minutes-to-get-them-off. im happy

[RBW] Re: Michigan Rivendell Owners

I wonder if thats the Atlantis I saw? Surely a coincidence for multiple Atlantis bikes in GR.. On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 9:48:30 PM UTC-5, Palmer wrote: > > Hi Ryan, > > Just a Rivendell fan, so far. I'm sure I will have one eventually. > Would love to see your bikes sometime. I traded a

[RBW] My First Date With Clementine

Nice!! Congrats mark, looks great. I like the alx fenders, less shiny then the plastic ones. Enjoy getting to know her! Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: [RBW] Bruce Gordon R lifespan?

Conway, I barely got 1500 miles on my rear before the tread was very thin and the sidewalls were starting to go. The front sidewalls were getting very frayed as well. They actually were showing significant wear at 700-1000 miles. I love these tires they are fat and grippy an really ride well

[RBW] Re: Is Joe the evolved Sam?

It looks like completes are going to be the way all of the lower priced Riv's will be sold from hence forth. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] Re: FS: White Industries Bottom Bracket

With the adjustment range of a Phil BB, does 2mm difference even matter? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: White Industries Bottom Bracket

Do they adjust? I was just reading about them with their cartridge cups and thinking about that. On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:53 AM, EricK wrote: > With the adjustment range of a Phil BB, does 2mm difference even matter? > > -- > You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Eleven speeds on a ten-speed hub

no problem there, here's my 3 x 7 with half steps and bail-out 26__42__46 32- 21.9 35.4 38.8 25- 28.1 45.4 49.7 21- 33.4 54.0 59.1 18- 39.0 63.0 69.0 16- 43.9 70.9 77.6 14- 50.1 81.0 88.7 12- 58.5 94.5 103.5

Re: [RBW] Re: Eleven speeds on a ten-speed hub

On 12/01/2015 10:07 AM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: I don't know, folks... There's inherent beauty (and plenty of gear choices) in a 3x7 setup. With a couple of nicely spaced cassettes that start with 13, too. Lots to like about 7. What's not so nice is that index shifter controls have been

Re: [RBW] Re: Eleven speeds on a ten-speed hub

Keep triples alive! On Dec 1, 2015, at 7:07 AM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > I don't know, folks... There's inherent beauty (and plenty of gear choices) > in a 3x7 setup. I love my front derailleur and a nice even chain line... > Just saying. (11 speed?? Sorry, but to me that's just wrong).

Re: [RBW] Re: Eleven speeds on a ten-speed hub

On 12/01/2015 10:24 AM, Ron Mc wrote: no problem there, here's my 3 x 7 with half steps and bail-out 26__42__46 32- 21.9 35.4 38.8 25- 28.1 45.4 49.7 21- 33.4 54.0 59.1 18- 39.0 63.0 69.0 16- 43.9 70.9 77.6

[RBW] Bruce Gordon R lifespan?

The reason I'm asking is when I was riding home last night my rear wheel started thumping and felt like it was yawling. I thought the wheel was out of true but it is new with maybe 100 miles on it. I finally stopped and realized the casing on the skinwall is splitting on the non drive side a

[RBW] Re: Eleven speeds on a ten-speed hub

The Compass Gran Bois 5/6 speed cassette hub shows the way forward. A hub that could use a *steel* 8 speed free hub body and 135mm spacing would be great. Use a 9 or 10 speed cassette and leave of the 11t spacer. The GB 6 speed hub would probably hold 7 speeds of a 10s cassette, add 135mm

Re: [RBW] Re: Eleven speeds on a ten-speed hub

On the two examples I posted above,both with 12t smallest cog, I used the 96" gear all the time. The 104" - I've been there, but it's not particularly useful. On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 9:33:29 AM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > ... > > 11 is just plain silly in my opinion, and all

Re: [RBW] Re: Eleven speeds on a ten-speed hub

my 7-speed is a Suntour Winner freewheel. >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: [RBW] Bruce Gordon R lifespan?

My experience with those tires is quite old now -- 1995-1996 or thereabouts -- but I wore the back tire out in about a thousand miles. A splitting sidewall casing isn't normal wear and tear. On 12/01/2015 10:38 AM, Conway Bennett wrote: The reason I'm asking is when I was riding home last

Re: [RBW] Re: Eleven speeds on a ten-speed hub

For me the 11 speed is about combining the features of a wide range cassette with a narrow range cassette. I frequently find myself hunting for just the right gear and with 11-34 9 speed currently I think the steps are a bit bigger than I would like. I still want a fairly large cog in the back,

[RBW] Re: Michigan Rivendell Owners

I'm in the Metro Detroit Area. Oakland Twp to be exact. There's a few in the surrounding area as well. A guy I follow on Flickr rides an Atlantis lives in the Gross Pointe area and within the last couple weeks there's a Hunq and a Hillborne posted on Craigslist. On Thursday, November 26, 2015

[RBW] Is Joe the evolved Sam?

Hey John, I think you're onto something there. The Joe and the Sam have a lot of similarities. I wouldn't be surprised if the tubing were the same or very close to the Sam's. And they are being built in the same facility. But I think the geometry will put it in its own model designation. In

[RBW] Re: Clem with drop bars?!?

probably would help to stick with short-reach bars, as well, like Cinelli 64, Nitto Marks bar, etc. http://ruedatropical.com/2009/03/road-drop-bar-geometry/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] Re: Is Joe the evolved Sam?

Somewhere on the Blug it recently mentioned that more Sams were coming in 2016, but they would be sold as completes only. KJ On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 6:26:07 AM UTC-5, William R. wrote: > > And I'm sure we will see more Sam's at some point. I hope we do. > > Bill in Westchester, NY >

Re: [RBW] Re: Eleven speeds on a ten-speed hub

I don't know, folks... There's inherent beauty (and plenty of gear choices) in a 3x7 setup. I love my front derailleur and a nice even chain line... Just saying. (11 speed?? Sorry, but to me that's just wrong). I'll take the heat for this comment, but I'm just not buying into this nonsense

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: White Industries Bottom Bracket

They adjust left or right up to 5mm. http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/bottombrackets.html On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 5:18:20 AM UTC-5, Benedikt wrote: > > Do they adjust? I was just reading about them with their cartridge cups > and thinking about that. > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:53

[RBW] Re: Michigan Rivendell Owners

Jeff, The Hillborne on CL is mine. I am going to give the albatross bars a go with it however. On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 8:15:12 AM UTC-5, Jeffrey Marco wrote: > > I'm in the Metro Detroit Area. Oakland Twp to be exact. There's a few in > the surrounding area as well. A guy I follow on

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: White Industries Bottom Bracket

Right, that is true. I did that with my Phil BB when I bought it for my Atlantis. I needed a 119 but could only find an 'offset' spindle at the time, so I bought that and simply pulled the spindle back to the centre. Took maybe a minute! Benedikt - if you're interested, send me a DM. This BB

Re: [RBW] Re: Eleven speeds on a ten-speed hub

Jim, completely understand where you're going - I've been there (look at my 2 x 9 above). But there are a lot of good points on this thread and just about every one of them points to the value of custom cassettes. With 11t, my buddy has a 134" gear on his tandem - maybe on a tandem he may use