[RBW] Re: New Roadeo

+1 on the Jitensa style bars. I have the map/ahearne version and they are great. More aggressive than albas, less aggressive than drops. You can get a couple hand positions out of them, depending on your shifter set up. Beautiful bike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo

Thanks all! I may give the drops another shot...I agree that this bike looks pretty sweet with them and I've always suffered from a bit of drop bar envy. But with anything longer than a 50mm stem (even with the bars high), I start to feel it in my back and neck pretty quick. Maybe I'll bring i

Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Bike for Catie

Patrick is trying to get the saddle down low enough that the kid can put one foot down at stops while seated (I didn't realize this was the goal earlier). An Electra Townie "flatfoot technology" might be the ticket here. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro

[RBW] Re: Question about Gramicci Rockin Sport Pants given MUSA production hiatus

I've used the regular cotton shorts for many years and they are one of my favorite shorts to ride in. They have a panel in the crotch area which creates some extra seams there, may be uncomfortable on a full on road bike, but on a more upright bike I haven't had any issues, I like them, becaus

Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Bike for Catie

There's no real challenge to building that Trek cruiser frame, I've built a dozen similar bikes and worked on many more. About as simple as it gets really. Don't know what your parts stash looks like, but if it's anywhere close to mine you probably have half of what you would need already and th

[RBW] Re: Talk to me about bottom brackets

I have a Phil BB in my '98 LongLow, and I have not paid it any attention in all these years and miles. I'm heavy (230 pounds wet) and tall, so a lot of torque passes through the cranks (Ritchey Logic) and the BB, and both have been rock solid for 17 years now. Would a cheaper BB have failed by n

[RBW] Re: Talk to me about bottom brackets

me I'm a big boy, and I stand hard. The original splined crank on that Raleigh stripped out under me climbing home from campus in Austin in '78. I have 3 SKF BB on 3 bikes. Jan warranties them for 10 years. They'

Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Bike for Catie

Actually, I see that the Surly LHT comes in 26" wheel models too, with 47 mm bb drop -- so all is well if I go that route. I just weighed her cheap Diamond Back (aluminum frame) and it weighs 34 1/2 lb, so we have a pretty low bar here. On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > Ye

Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Bike for Catie

Yes, I see that the smaller Atlantises have 48 mm bb drops, compared to, what, 40 mm for your old steel hardtails? OTOH, the Long Haul Trucker has a 78 mm drop compared to the 80 of the 700C Atlantises; I've toyed with the idea of getting a disk frameset and installing wheels for 2"+ 559 tires: the

Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Bike for Catie

Thanks. We'll see; there are many, many possibilities, and one of them is that Catie tell me, "Dad, don't bother, I'm really not all that interested." On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Well it's clear to me that you are up for it. That being the case I will > repeat verbatim

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Bike for Catie

The biggest obstacle remains BB height. Grant specifically included lower ones on Rivendell frames because they weren't common. I'll be interested to see what the cruiser frame reveals; the Fisher Klunker I had (and might buy again this weekend) was tall in the saddle. -- You received this mes

[RBW] Re: painted braze on

You can, unless you can't. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email

[RBW] Re: painted braze on

Can't you do that by just carefully running the bolt in before installing the rack? I agree the tap is a good idea, but I've never needed one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receivin

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Bike for Catie

Well it's clear to me that you are up for it. That being the case I will repeat verbatim my previously stated sincere encouragement: Go for it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop recei

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Bike for Catie

Oh, and installing a '50s AW in a 126 mm OL Trek frame (~12 mm difference), and making my own extra large AW cog out of a Hyperglide, and making my own shifter. And converting stirrup brakes to Bowden cable (ie, Bowdens pulling the stirrups). And making a half stepped AW with a Cyclo Benelux

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Bike for Catie

I still don't see what the big deal is. I've already made all the mistakes, starting with my first build from complete scratch in 1970. I did get a Stronglight 49D and original bb assembly to work on a Workman tricycle, and learned the intricacies of tricycle stub axles, and this certainly poses no

Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Bike for Catie

This won't cost nearly as much as a Clementine, even if I have to get wheels custom built for it, and buy Rat Trap Pass tires! I haven't even looked at it in person yet, and I may not buy it, but if (1) it does have more bb drop than a typical mtb, and (2) it isn't as huge a tank as I fear it migh

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Bike for Catie

Golly, where do I start? I guess I'll just go through my process when mapping a build. A bike comes in five chapters. The chapter names are: A. frameset B. wheelset C. drivetrain D. components E. accessories Your frameset is already a given. That's Frame + Fork + Headset. B. wheelset. Y

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Bike for Catie

I don't have anywhere near the technical knowledge or experience of Bill, but this project just feels like a great way to spend nearly as much as a Clementine on far less than a Clementine. I second Bill's warning. Save for the Clementine, and ride whatcha got in the meanwhile. I cherish the sho

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Bike for Catie

Why would it be difficult? On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > It will be a challenging exercise to make a fun bike out of that frame. > It will take a desire to overcome challenges, plus a lot of spare time and > spare money. Hopefully you have spare time, spare money and li

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Bike for Catie

It will be a challenging exercise to make a fun bike out of that frame. It will take a desire to overcome challenges, plus a lot of spare time and spare money. Hopefully you have spare time, spare money and like challenges. A mechanic lacking the intestinal fortitude to overcome the mechanic

[RBW] Re: painted braze on

Go to your hardware store and buy a tap, size M5x0.8mm. It will cost about $6. If you don't have one, buy a handle for that tap. It will also cost about $6. Run that through every rack braze on and every fender braze on and every water bottle bolt hole. Or ask your local bike shop to chase

[RBW] painted braze on

I've been riding my Cheviot for 6 months, and want to add a basket for store runs. What's the best way to prep the braze on since they are covered in paint? When I put a screw in it wants to go in a wonky direction and I don't to force it in for fear of screwing the threads up. -- You recei

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Bike for Catie

BB height. I would like a frame that makes it easy, or at least less difficult, to put a foot down when in the saddle. On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Chris Cullum wrote: > Is it BB height specifically or stand over? > On Apr 27, 2016 15:19, "Patrick Moore" wrote: > >> Again, bb height. I shal

[RBW] Re: Question about Gramicci Rockin Sport Pants given MUSA production hiatus

Doh -- meant Gramicci Rocket Dry -- they're the nylon ones -- the Rockin Sports are cotton. On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 5:34:10 PM UTC-5, Julian wrote: > > I love MUSA pants, but as they are on a production hiatus I'm searching > out possible alternatives. Has anyone tried the Gramicci Rock

[RBW] Question about Gramicci Rockin Sport Pants given MUSA production hiatus

I love MUSA pants, but as they are on a production hiatus I'm searching out possible alternatives. Has anyone tried the Gramicci Rockin Sport Pants? Quick-dry nylon, gusseted crotch, but of course no ankle closure, no reflective stripe (which is a + for me, I remove it from later MUSAs, as off

[RBW] Re: Talk to me about bottom brackets

FWIW, for those that buy the Tange LN-7922 BB that Riv sells, you can also get the steel cup version model LN-3922 for about $30 shipped . For myself the cutoff would be White BB if I bought a White crank, otherwise stick with the Tange steel version for Sugino XD cranks. Paying top dollar do

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Bike for Catie

Is it BB height specifically or stand over? On Apr 27, 2016 15:19, "Patrick Moore" wrote: > Again, bb height. I shall have to confirm that the cruiser frame has more > drop. > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Chris Cullum > wrote: > >> As others have stated, I'd recommend getting an older high

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Bike for Catie

Again, bb height. I shall have to confirm that the cruiser frame has more drop. On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Chris Cullum wrote: > As others have stated, I'd recommend getting an older high quality MTB > over that. Great deals are out there. Get it powder coated if you're > looking for a spe

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Bike for Catie

As others have stated, I'd recommend getting an older high quality MTB over that. Great deals are out there. Get it powder coated if you're looking for a specific colour. On Apr 27, 2016 10:54, "Patrick Moore" wrote: > How about this? Cruiser frame, $125, to be built up with Alfine 8 speed > hub

[RBW] Re: Talk to me about bottom brackets

So which bb would I need for my Bleriot? I would use either Herse cranks or Sugino XD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsub

[RBW] Re: Talk to me about bottom brackets

There are bottom brackets, and there are bottom braquets...I'm not sure where the price cutoff is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owne

[RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Bike for Catie

Don't know; I have to look at the frame. I may use either. The crucial question here is, will this frame give her a lower bb than a mtb -- her Diamond Back is 12" off the ground with barely 50 mm tires. On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Sofia Torres wrote: > Are you going to run one piece cranks

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike for Catie

Thanks, John. I don't know yet, of course, but I'll probably use one I have, or get a cheap Shimano. On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 2:07 PM, JohnS wrote: > Hello Patrick, > > Will you need a spindle for this bike? I have a used old school SR square > taper BMX spindle which I recently purchased from e-

[RBW] FS: 60 cm Quickbeam ffhsbb $740

So I bought an orange 60 cm QB at the end of summer '14 from the original owner and I love it. But, it fits "riv big" and after riding for a while I told myself that if a 58 ever came up for sale I'd snatch it up. It did so I did so my gain is your gain. The bike has lots of beausage but no

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk to me about bottom brackets

It would be closer simplification to use the triangle of features: Light, Strong, Cheap. Choose two. If it's light and strong, it won't be cheap. If it's light and cheap, it wont be durable. If it's strong and cheap, it won't be light. The $40 BB you buy from Riv will be durable and cheap.

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo

Welcome to the list, Eric! Beautiful bike. [General note to the posters on this thread: Velo Orange makes Porteur bars in 22.2 and also in 23.8. But since this is the Riv list, maybe think about Choco Normal bars?] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk to me about bottom brackets

Oh right, I forget weight is also a thing people consider ;). I also like the match of white industries crank to white industries bottom bracket and love supporting a CA business. Though buying from Riv also fulfills that for me a bit. So are we mostly talking durability and maintenance then? Bett

[RBW] Re: Talk to me about bottom brackets

I have to say...I have Phil BBs on my rivs, but those SKF BBs do sound amazing especially with a 10-year guarantee. For the money, it sounds like these SKF BBs are hard to beat.Now if it makes you fasterwe may be into mechanical doping territory here... :) Compass delivery service is exce

[RBW] Re: Talk to me about bottom brackets

Here are some articles on brackets: https://janheine.wordpress.com/category/components/bottom-brackets/ There should be one of the articles talking about bracket structure and features. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To un

[RBW] Re: Talk to me about bottom brackets

There is no massive performance benefit to expensive BBs. Nobody has ever said "Hey, I just upgraded my bottom bracket and now I'm way faster!". If they did say that, they were delusional. $40 bottom brackets work great and you don't touch them for 5 years or so. I own two White Industries

[RBW] Re: Bike for Catie

damn. been looking for one of those step-thru univega mountain mixtes for a while. seems like they got rid of the mixte stay after a year or so. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiv

[RBW] Talk to me about bottom brackets

Why are more expensive bottom brackets more expensive? What do you gain? Is it just durability? Or is there any sort of performance gain (ie, does it roll smoother, faster, etc)? I've worked on most bike parts now minus the bottom bracket and headset. About to change cranks on my hunqapillar fo

[RBW] Re: Bike for Catie

One of my "Klunkers" [URL=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/masmojo/media/FB_IMG_1443382032937_zpse140pmur.jpg.html][IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/masmojo/FB_IMG_1443382032937_zpse140pmur.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Breezer Ignaz-X -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo

Love it. On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 11:46:49 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote: > > Hi all- > > > Long time lurker. > > > I came upon Rivendell’s bikes (and Grant’s writings) about two years ago > and have wanted one ever since. After selling two of my existing bikes, I > took the plunge and order

[RBW] Re: Bike for Catie

Hello Patrick, Will you need a spindle for this bike? I have a used old school SR square taper BMX spindle which I recently purchased from e-buy which I didn't work on the bike project I have. Let me know if you are interested. http://www.ebay.com/itm/131738834475?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&s

[RBW] Bike for Catie

Klunkers! I have a line on a frame actually called that, it's a Gary Fisher replica of his own early bikes. I had one a few years ago and foolishly sold it. Funkatube! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from thi

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike for Catie

Is that "Heavy"? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Heavy Or "Heavy"? https://www.google.com/search?q=heavy+definition&oq=heavy+de&gs_l=serp.1.0.0l10.2890.3168.0.4678.3.3.0.0.0.0.141.384.0j3.3.00...1c.1.64.serp..0.3.384...0i67j0i131j0i155i3.M_tziJxDJ7o Or both? Probably both. P

[RBW] Re: Bike for Catie

Funkatube! I think if you built that up as you describe most people would like it. What does she think? On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 12:54:02 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > How about this? Cruiser frame, $125, to be built up with Alfine 8 speed > hub or else 1X9 derailleur system; roller

[RBW] Re: Bike for Catie

Heavy! On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 2:04:51 PM UTC-4, masmojo wrote: > > Sure, then join us on the Klunkers FB page! ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, se

[RBW] Bike for Catie

Sure, then join us on the Klunkers FB page! ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to thi

Re: [RBW] How do you like your first step-through bike?

I got the Clementine and out of all the reasons I bought it, that's the one I like the most! I adjusted to it right away and really without giving it a second thought. My only real issue with it is the water bottle mount is on top of the top tube; I have not mounted a water bottle cage, becaus

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Three Baggins Bags

Very good prices. I've used the Hoss (2 of them, on currently on Dahon) and the Adam (1, for a year or 2 cross town commuting) and they are good bags. On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Esteban wrote: > Instant street cred for anyone who picks up these bags. Continue to wear > them proudly! > > O

[RBW] Re: FS: Three Baggins Bags

Instant street cred for anyone who picks up these bags. Continue to wear them proudly! On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 1:48:16 PM UTC-7, Kevin Abbott wrote: > > A well-loved collection of first-generation Rivendell Baggins Bags. I've > used these bags happily through a lot of miles but I'm just no

Re: [RBW] New Roadeo

I'd recommend the same. The bike looks very good, but IMO it deserves a slightly more "sporty" bar. And welcome out of the closet. I'll be interested in your opinions about the Roadeo's ride qualities. It's one of the several Riv models I wouldn't mind owning. On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:12 AM, ia

[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Dirt Drop 26.0 80mm Stem

I figured I would jump on this thread rather than start a new one: I'm looking for a used Nitto Dirt Drop stem, 80 or 100mm with 26.0 clamp, for a Riv/BOB-ish mountain bike project I'm working on. Thanks! Bob On Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 7:36:23 PM UTC-5, Chad wrote: > > Have you found the

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

Thanks, Bill, but we want something that will take tires at least 50 mm wide. I see that the Allant comes with 32 mm tires, which makes me doubt it will take 50s even without fenders. On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 7:52 AM, William Graves wrote: > This may be heresy, but it might be worth looking at th

[RBW] New Roadeo

If the Albas feel too wide maybe try the Nitto Jitensha bars. Same level of beauty and quality with a bit more aggressive stance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

This may be heresy, but it might be worth looking at the Trek Allant WSD. It get s good reviews from bicyclesfortherestfous and Kent Peterson. It comes with 700x32 tires, fenders, a rack and decent components (Acera rear der and Tektro brakes), has a fairly upright riding position, and lists a

Re: [RBW] An Amusing Bike Service Anecdote

I think they will. They have lots of good models to follow (Gladys Bikes in Portland comes to mind) and it could be that I just caught them on an off day or something. The fellows - yep, there were men working in the shop - who helped me were really friendly. If I lived closer, it's possible the

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo

Hey Eric, I love fast(ish) road bikes and upright bars as well. I've spent a good deal of time on Alba's and recently configured a new ride with new choco-normal -- primarily because I liked the flatter look of the choco to the Alba. However, having been on narrow drops for so long (I took a 3

[RBW] Re: Riv riding recovery and acclimation advice needed.

I have never considered myself as being particularly fit or sporty or fast at anything. My commute is 11 miles round trip and I do it 5 days a week. I second the go slow thing for a number of reasons - I don't want to get sweaty, slow feels right for me, I enjoy taking the time out between work

Re: [RBW] How do you like your first step-through bike?

As a rather stiff 61 year old, I really don't find myself wanting, even less needing, a stepthrough frame. I've owned several, from true drop frame 3 speeds to mixtes to the current Dahon Hon Solo, which has a very low step over height. I find myself always, or almost always, swinging a leg over t

[RBW] Re: Riv riding recovery and acclimation advice needed.

You are doing absolutely nothing wrong Lungimsam ! There is nothing more fatiguing that the idea that there is something I'm missing out or supposed to or doing wrong. It's only ideas. Blah blah blah ! Just go on your merry way however you go . Isn't it fun going "slow" ! Without "an ag

RE: [RBW] Re: New Roadeo

Well, I'd love to find some riders like that, and I'm in Wilmington, DE, not far away. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Justin August Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 9:19 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [R

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo

Looks great! I was never able to find any non-race oriented groups in my 5 Philly years. However there are so many paths and places to ride you'll bump into some folks sooner or later! -Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" gro

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo

nice looks good! congrats! On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 11:46:49 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote: > > Hi all- > > > Long time lurker. > > > I came upon Rivendell’s bikes (and Grant’s writings) about two years ago > and have wanted one ever since. After selling two of my existing bikes, I > took th

Re: [RBW] New Roadeo

Congratulations on your new bike! On Apr 26, 2016, at 11:46 PM, Eric Karnes mailto:epkar...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi all- Long time lurker. I came upon Rivendell’s bikes (and Grant’s writings) about two years ago and have wanted one ever since. After selling two of my existing bikes, I took

Re: [RBW] New Roadeo

Gorgeous bike, Eric. Congratulations! With your love of narrow bars, I think drops could work for you -- if you get them in the correct position for your body. Have you tried drop bars up high? A Tallux stem would allow you to place the tops above the saddle. And the higher you go, the closer

[RBW] New Roadeo

Eric, Congratulations on the bike; it is beautiful. Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To pos

Re: [RBW] An Amusing Bike Service Anecdote

I'm sorry, but I really don't see this as a realistic possibility. But giving your bike a good once-over before heading out is always a sensible idea. On 04/27/2016 01:33 AM, Cecily Walker wrote: I'm no bike savant, but this neighbour has been doing weird things to my bike now and again. The p

Re: [RBW] Re: An Amusing Bike Service Anecdote

Sounds to me as though you have every reason to stay with your local, regular shop. On 04/27/2016 01:35 AM, Cecily Walker wrote: Ehh, it was OK service. I found things that they didn't do that my regular shop would do. Plus, my regular shop is closer, and I wouldn't have to use the car/bike ra

Re: [RBW] Re: An Amusing Bike Service Anecdote

I'm in Patrick's camp here. I would guess more shops than not have never heard of Rivendell. What a great opportunity to share why some of the features of Riv style bikes make so much sense for so many riders! I think more women in particular might be more inclined toward cycling if the mains

Re: [RBW] An Amusing Bike Service Anecdote

I speak this as light hearted as can be written, but really, we Rivendell owners at times put the name on pedestal that exists nowhere but in ourselves. In street terms, " get over myself ! Before I ran across Riv in the late 90's it did not exist as far as I was concerned, so now that I own o

Re: [RBW] An Amusing Bike Service Anecdote

On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 1:33:29 AM UTC-4, Cecily Walker wrote: > > The strata council in my building doesn't allow us to keep bikes in our > units, and all the other bike rooms are full, > Bummer about your neighbor. I know if someone were messing with my bike, I'd consider just bre