RE: [RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

My custom Riv from 1999 – JB paint in dark metallic cinnamon still better looking – has 44,5 cm chainstays. At that time Grant complained that he couldn´t get his hands on longer ones so his thought were probably already in that direction. Rides very, very nice though, also with the „short“

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

@Don C. I think the longer stays (47cm) are there to predominantly compliment the intended performance of the bike and not just for tire (up to 42mm) clearance. Looking at the RBW geo charts, the 63 AHH has 45cm CS and fits up to 43mm tires while the 62 Hillborne CS is at 45.5cm and fits up to

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

@John H. The 47cm chainstays were Grant's decision and seemingly one of the twists he did on my Hilsen-like custom. The thinking is that there is no reason for shorter than 47 considering also that my SH is at 80.5cm. The notion here is being positioned less on top of the rear wheel which

[RBW] Re: Ordering to delivery timeframe

Waterford custom paint is about $100 unless its gone up or you get extra fancy. -Dave On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 7:59:42 PM UTC-5, Andrew Huston wrote: > > What has been the typical time from the order to delivery of Waterford > made Atlantis or Hunqapillar? I called Waterford and was

Re: [RBW] Re: RAWLANDS PORTEUR RACK INSTALLED ON CHEVIOT

You can easily get longer struts, as they are common with salsa, tubus, and other rack companies. Just don't use nitto struts, as they are slightly smaller. I had to use longer struts with Salsa Marrakesh, which has the mid-blade, low rider, rack mounts. I also had to use a long spacer (30 mm)

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Would his bike need the extra space for the larger tires and fenders? Just a thought. On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 3:58:56 PM UTC-8, John Hawrylak wrote: > > Pano > > The 47cm CS seem 2 to 3cm longer than normal.Were longer CS > a conscience decision > > John Hawrylak > Woodstown NJ

Re: [RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

/Where black is the color, where n plus one is the number// //And I’ll tell it and think it and speak it and breathe it// //And reflect it from the mountain so all souls can see it/ On 02/04/2017 06:54 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: HA! "Or not" is the problem, Steve. I have a tendency to buy new

[RBW] Re: ?Appaloosa versus Sam Hillborne

Thanks for the comments regarding tires. That is an important point for me. I would like the ability to ride 50s. Bob, I appreciate the kind offer to help out with camping recommendations. I will keep that in mind as the trip planning progresses. On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 4:15:15 PM

[RBW] Re: Ordering to delivery timeframe

Long wait for my Atlantis. 8 months. The frame is a custom color so I figured that added to the timeline. Worth the wait. Like Kai said the anticipation was part of the fun! Best, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Re: ?Appaloosa versus Sam Hillborne

I rode the GAP-C last summer on a Hunqapillar. The C, while my favorite half, was pretty bumpy. If you want to do more adventure rides, I'd suggest the Appaloosa because you'll get the clearance for fatter tires and fenders. It will ride fine on pavement. Have fun on your trip!!! P.S., feel

[RBW] Re: Ordering to delivery timeframe

My Hunqapillar took 3 months + a week to arrive (ordered April 2016). Assume you might wait a little extra! On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 7:59:42 PM UTC-5, Andrew Huston wrote: > > What has been the typical time from the order to delivery of Waterford > made Atlantis or Hunqapillar? I called

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Pano The 47cm CS seem 2 to 3cm longer than normal.Were longer CS a conscience decision John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 10:03:11 PM UTC-5, panog wrote: > > CS length 47cm > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Stopped by to pick up an order today and got a glimpse in person. Wow! Gorgeous color, unbelievable lug work, and incredible attention to detail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

HA! "Or not" is the problem, Steve. I have a tendency to buy new bikes, then "forget" to sell the old ones ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

You have the sequence of events reversed. First you order the new one; when it comes, you sell the old one. Or not. On 02/04/2017 06:14 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: I really need to stop staring at your frame before I sell my Appaloosa and order a custom. "Make it just like Pano's, but Candy

[RBW] Re: Ordering to delivery timeframe

im only concerned about excessively long waits but that seems to be more likely with customs. This makes me realize that I'd better make up my mind soon so the bike can be here by the time the weather breaks. I'm patiently waiting to see the new Appaloosa builds which could satisfy immediate

Re: [RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

I really need to stop staring at your frame before I sell my Appaloosa and order a custom. "Make it just like Pano's, but Candy Apple Red."  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Ordering to delivery timeframe

I should've mentioned that it was 8 wonderful months that I was warned of and had fully anticipated waiting. I think it's even better than immediate gratification. When you've finally put it out of your mind* and it suddenly shows up!! -Kai Brooklyn NY *as if On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at

Re: [Ext] [RBW] WTB: Riv cheapy pedals

Hey Pudge, you out there? I sent a PM yesterday about your pedals. Joe Bernard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] ?Appaloosa versus Sam Hillborne

Ride difference between my Sam and my Appaloosa (prototype) seems to be in the 40mm vs 50mm tires on them at max clearance. 50 lets me run lower pressure and rides softer. The longer stays don't make much difference to me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: ?Appaloosa versus Sam Hillborne

Having owned both, I would say the major differences are tire width, chain stay length and brake style. And of course color. I know the Appaloosa is billed more as a touring bike, but I haven't heard of anyone feeling the Sam to be too flimsy for touring! Currently with an Appaloosa for tire

Re: [RBW] Re: OMG! Egg misguidance from Rivendell

my omelettes are even better than my breakfast tacos. I use Nova salmon, one continuous paper-thin flake The right salsa on top. On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 2:27:11 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Interesting. It was Paul Theroux who snidely used the term "bobble hats" > in "Kingdom

[RBW] Re: front rack recommendations

Bin Great bike is that a Nitto NR-20 supporting what looks like a Swift/Ultraromance bag? Is it the Large or Small bag? It looks like its far enough back to not hit your legs and helps with wobble while still being low profile? Scott. On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 5:02:10 PM UTC-8, Bin Chen

Re: [RBW] Re: OMG! Egg misguidance from Rivendell

Interesting. It was Paul Theroux who snidely used the term "bobble hats" in "Kingdom by the Sea." To paraphrase Mark Twain, the coldest August I ever experienced was an August in London, long ago. This could turn into a "Yanks are strange" versus "Brits are weird" thread, easily. On Sat, Feb 4,

Re: [RBW] Re: OMG! Egg misguidance from Rivendell

A soft-boiled egg loses heat quickly. The egg-cozy keeps the egg warm for the long trek from the kitchen to the dining room (or bedroom if we're talking breakfast in bed). In a country where they've only just discovered central heating, and mostly still seem to refuse to use it, a warm

Re: [RBW] Re: RAWLANDS PORTEUR RACK INSTALLED ON CHEVIOT

Sean, I bought the Rawlands Rack after trying a Nitto Pot luck rack. It would not fit due to the legs that attach to the eyelet on the fork drop out were too short to fit over a 700c38 tire with fender. Like you I wanted a wider rack than a Mark's rack.Also Marks rack is rated at 4.4 lbs.The

Re: [RBW] Re: OMG! Egg misguidance from Rivendell

Thanks all. Garth's video and especially Part 2 are very helpful. I have plenty of tortillas, so I'll start with one of those for practice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Re: OMG! Egg misguidance from Rivendell

Patrick, Flipping eggs is a fluid motion, gently work the pan in a slightly downward arc away from you at at the outermost point of the arc, give a gentle flip while returning the pan back towards youto catch the airborne omelette. Be sure to make sure the contents of the pan are loose

[RBW] Re: OMG! Egg misguidance from Rivendell

Just for something to do today, I made some soft boiled eggs as per Will's procedure, and they turned out great. Just the right consistency, and they peeled like butter. My girls were so excited. They asked "Is this the kind of eggs where you take off the top and eat it out of a little cup?"

Re: [RBW] Re: OMG! Egg misguidance from Rivendell

Patrick, you have to have flip it without a spatula. In other words, with a flip of the wrist. Use a good, non-stick pan with butter. Let the bottom get nice and done. With a circular motion get the omelet moving around in the pan, then, once it's sliding well and toward the front, a flick

[RBW] Ordering to delivery timeframe

Well yes, I'm obviously referring to frames advertised as current models, not pre-preproduction promotions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [RBW] Re: RAWLANDS PORTEUR RACK INSTALLED ON CHEVIOT

Thanks for sharing your pictures. I'm in the process of gathering the odds and ends for my Cheviot build. I ordered one of the recently produced grey models, but have yet to take it out of the box. Anyway, I'm intrigued by your photos. Why did you choose to go with the Rawlands rack? I've

Re: [RBW] OMG! Egg misguidance from Rivendell

It's quite easy actually. This guy pretty much says it all in short. Essentials are a proper pan and don't f'n hesitate ! Just flick your wrist sorta like you want to flip someone off :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acVoEWiqL40 On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 2:02:23 PM UTC-5, Patrick

[RBW] 55 CROMO Bosco bars for sale

HI Everyone, I just swapped out stock 55cm bosco bars for the wider 58 version so i am selling the originals. Asking 45$ paypal friends and family plus actual shipping cost. My guess would be around 15$ shipping, I will be using the box and packing riv sent me which is kinda large. local

Re: [RBW] OMG! Egg misguidance from Rivendell

Boiled eggs, hell. I want to know how to flip an omelet without breaking it. Seriously. (Hardboiled; works for me: cold eggs in cold water, very low heat, walk away for at least 30 minutes but I've left them for an hour; come back, cool, peel with no problems.) -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: OMG! Egg misguidance from Rivendell

And no one's saying you must eat boiled eggs or you'll die either. I guess you're right. On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 8:51:18 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > On 02/04/2017 11:27 AM, Daniel D. wrote: > > Boiling eggs will top helmets as most contentious topic. > > I don't hear

Re: [RBW] Re: OMG! Egg misguidance from Rivendell

Boiled eggs are a waste of good eggs. ;>) But seriously, I've never had a soft-boiled egg and now I'm intrigued. I can't stand hard boiled eggs (sulphur flavored chalk, anyone?) but what I've seen of soft-boiled looks good! On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 10:51:18 AM UTC-6, Steve

Re: [RBW] Re: OMG! Egg misguidance from Rivendell

mine was subtle On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 10:51:18 AM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > On 02/04/2017 11:27 AM, Daniel D. wrote: > > Boiling eggs will top helmets as most contentious topic. > > I don't hear anyone actually arguing against boiled eggs. > > > > -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: OMG! Egg misguidance from Rivendell

On 02/04/2017 11:27 AM, Daniel D. wrote: Boiling eggs will top helmets as most contentious topic. I don't hear anyone actually arguing against boiled eggs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Wow! That is such a beauty. I love everything about it, except it doesn't have MY name on the top tube! It's also interesting and fun to compare it to that orange Sam in the previous post. Very similar. Just not with all bells and whistles. All Rivendells are great, capable bikes, from the

Re: [RBW] Re: OMG! Egg misguidance from Rivendell

We go through up to 2 dozen boiled eggs a week in my household, a majority of that consumption is from me. I typically cook a dozen or so at a time, and go with the cold egg into cold water, bring to a boil and as soon as a boil is achieved, turn off the heat, cover and let stand for 9 - 10

[RBW] Re: OMG! Egg misguidance from Rivendell

Boiling eggs will top helmets as most contentious topic. Bring eggs to boil covered. Take off heat, let sit for 6 minutes. cold water bath. Spoon to help with shelling. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Ordering to delivery timeframe

I know you are talking about Riv production, Waterford frames. But I think the way they do it is a cause and effect of their size and the lean machine that is Riv. I really enjoyed the experience of getting on the Appaloosa pre-sale. The savings and the service or "help" that I was giving to

[RBW] Re: Anyone have experience using Bosco bars?

That makes sense. I think my thumb shifters and bell may have been in the way. John On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 6:14:35 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > > John, the "hood position" is right at the top front where the the bar > starts curving down towards the flat section that flanks the

[RBW] Re: Ordering to delivery timeframe

I ordered an Atlantis last Aug. and received it the first week of Nov. But I remember recently reading a Rivendell remark that orders placed at the end of the year ('16) would take at least 3 months. FWIW, Riv told me 2-3 months when I placed the order and I feel like I was lucky to get it in

[RBW] Re: OMG! Egg misguidance from Rivendell

FWIW , I always drop my cold-from-the-fridge eggs directly into the boiling water and only rarely does one crack, and if it does it seals very quickly. I boil about 8-10 at a time. I let the water boil again with the lid on, stop the heat and just let them sit in the pot w/lid on, as in just

[RBW] Re: OMG! Egg misguidance from Rivendell

I never had good boiled eggs (I like them medium-to-hard) until I learned to put them in the pan with cold water, bring to a boil, and then time. Perfect every time. Dropping eggs into boiling water was inconsistent and lead to broken shells at least half the time. YMWNV. Chris On Friday,

[RBW] Re: OMG! Egg misguidance from Rivendell

Ron, you've got my stomach growling! +1 on using at least week old eggs for ease of peeling. I fought that like crazy years ago until I read that. Also, cage free organic seem to peel easier as well. As far as the yolks, which I like softer too, I drop (ease with a spoon) them into boiling

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

So beautiful! I can't wait to see it built up. On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 6:17:26 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Of all the Riv customs I've ever seen, the one shown on the BLUG today is > the one I would be most likely to copy. > > WANT! > > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito, CA > -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Jiminy Christmas! What a beautiful bike. I too was surprised about some of those features. I got the internal routing, seat stay pump peg and chain slap guard on my custom MAP and really like all those features. I thought I was done adding bikes for at least a couple of years but now I'm not so

Re: [RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Absolutely! Looking forward to it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

Re: [RBW] BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Provide 2 cm clearance and "folding-up" is far less of a concern. On 02/04/2017 12:52 AM, panog wrote: Thank you. An issue with metal fenders could be the so called "folding-up" when sticks caught by the tire are pushed up under the fender as the tire rotates forward. This could result in

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Makes me want to recondition my Orange Rambouillet, erasing sixteen years of beausage and adding a couple of braze-ons. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 6:17:26 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Of all the Riv customs I've ever seen, the one shown on the BLUG today is

[RBW] Ordering to delivery timeframe

I plopped money down and waited 8 months for my Clem... -Kai Brooklyn NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: OMG! Egg misguidance from Rivendell

I think the fastidious line has been crossed on this thread But I'll see your hard-boiled eggs, and raise you smoked venison and papas breakfast tacos -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: WTB: Riv cheapy pedals

You can find them on the auction site. They are serviceable. http://www.vpcomponents.com/product/vp-push-n2/ On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 6:13:46 PM UTC-5,

[RBW] Re: WTB: Riv cheapy pedals

You can find them on the auction site. They are serviceable, http://www.vpcomponents.com/product/vp-push-n2/ On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 6:13:46 PM UTC-5, William R. wrote: > > Joe, the pedals that came on my Appaloosa are known as VP Push-N2 pedals. > I like them a lot and so bought 2

[RBW] OMG! Egg misguidance from Rivendell

I learned how to do perfect hard cooked eggs and have never looked back. Boil water. Put eggs in steamer basket (not in the water) and steam with lid on for 12 minutes. You can leave out or refrigerate immediately it's up to you. The way to get the shells to peel off best is by using eggs