[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

I have a Waterford AHH and A Nobilette Legolas. The Legolas simply fantastic. On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 10:20:46 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > When I got my Nobilette Legolas, I asked myself "why don't they have Nobi > build the Roadeo also?" I don't think Waterford has historically

[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

When I got my Nobilette Legolas, I asked myself "why don't they have Nobi build the Roadeo also?" I don't think Waterford has historically treated Rivendell all that well, and I try to avoid Waterford Rivendells for that reason, purely spite. I'll seriously think about upgrading my Waterford

Re: [RBW] FS Medium Olive Sackville Saddlesack

john, I think it is sold, but if not you’ll be first on the list. thanks for the interest. tom horton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] New ROADEO

That bike is the business. Love it with the Rene Herse tires and crank. Only thing I’d add if it was mine is a dynohub. I can’t afford any bike right now, but that’s a good price for a Mark Nobilette made bike. Eamon Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

Nice! I know my '92 would not take tires so wide. Substituting cantis for the calipers was the right thing to do for 1993. I don't get "squirmy." Can you elaborate? My 1992 handled like an unexceptional road bike; decent, but not outstanding; and of course, with 57 mm max reach calipers, it

[RBW] FS Medium Olive Sackville Saddlesack

Hey Tom. I’m interested. Not sure how to PM here. Cheers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

Love the tires. Not a fan of the cranks at all. Clayton Scott SF, CA On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 4:04:03 PM UTC-8, Jock Dewey wrote: > > Hey, Y'all: > > Pic of new Nobilette ROADEO on the site, with RH crankset and RH tires. So > there ya go! > > All good, right? > > Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

Yes, Bill, I agree there is something to the feeling of whatever you rode last was “right.” You’re also right that it’s nice to let your bikes serve purposes instead of making them all alike. You would not believe how hard it was (is?) to get this through my skull. I am paring down to be

[RBW] New ROADEO

Hey, Y'all: Pic of new Nobilette ROADEO on the site, with RH crankset and RH tires. So there ya go! All good, right? Jock Dewey / Athens, GA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

Leah, I rotate riding between about 4 bikes on a fairly regular basis. They all feel a bit different. The last one I’ve been riding on a regular basis is usually the one I think I like best when I switch to another until the next one becomes the most regular at which point it becomes my

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Swift Zeitgeist Saddle Bag, Nitto Rear Racks

Update: all items have been sold. Thanks to everyone. Jed, for future reference, as far as I can tell the two racks are functionally very similar, and the big read is only very slightly bigger, so I don’t see any reason why it wouldn’t work on a frame with 26” wheels. Both are very stout and

[RBW] Re: 1/1/20 Blahg

I also enjoyed the new years day blahg... rambling, informative, entertaining. I think I need some new fidget gadgets on my desk... I have two bikes right now, QuickBeam (shift by loosening two 15mm nuts and sliding the axle or flopping the wheel) and LongLow (friction-mode Shimano 105 barends

[RBW] WTB - Nitto lugged Seat post 27.2 for my Quickbeam

Anyone selling a Nitto Lugged steatpost, 27.2? Need On for my Quickbeam. Message me if selling. Thanks!! Jason Braaten Brick, NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[RBW] Re: Velocity Quill experiences?

I am using the quill rims on my 2018 canti sam. the rims are great looking and i dont worry about them ever. the wheelset rides wonderfully. would recommend but probably wouldnt exceed a 48mm tire on it. in my eyes this is a slightly beefed road rim. On Friday, January 3, 2020 at 6:50:04 PM

[RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

Matt, No doubt your height affects the feeling of any bike you ride. I was a tad surprised at your statement that 61 and 62 cm frames fit you. My surprise is related to my recent experience purchasing an MIT Atlantis. I already own both a Homer (59 cm) and a Simpleton (58 cm) and thought,

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

Do let us know how the Black Mountain compares to the Roadini. On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 2:50 PM Matt Dreher <99m...@gmail.com> wrote: > Whoops, didn't see this before the reply went through. > > Yes, chainstays aren't the whole story. Front end geometry is a big deal > for sure but in turns above

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

Whoops, didn't see this before the reply went through. Yes, chainstays aren't the whole story. Front end geometry is a big deal for sure but in turns above 20mph where the wheel is deflected less I think the other elements of the geometry start to make themselves known. Not scientific, just a

[RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

Fair, I was a bit rushed writing that. I think it's a sort of a modern vernacular thing, using 'you' where one should really be using 'one.' This should make it clearer. *I don't buy the line that wheelbase doesn't affect handling significantly. I have an 90s road bike with 41cm stays that's

[RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

Actually, the long wheelbases started earlier, at least as early the "Mystery Bike". My Mystery Bike / Protopaloosa, is spookily similar in geometry (minus the diagatube and tentacles) to my forthcoming custom. Laing On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 4:12:30 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

Matt: First, this is a question, not a contradiction I don't doubt that significantly lengthening chainstays affects ride, but do a couple of cm in the stays affect steering as much as you say? I ask because I've had several (6 -- I keep updating this number; at least 6 ) bikes with 44-45 cm

[RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

Well, I’ve been thinking. We’ve generated a LOT of good discussion here, and it has been most informative. I’ve sifted through the posts again, and I think the initial question remains. Rivendell began lengthening wheelbases and chainstays with the Clems. I’d agree that was an improvement. My

[RBW] Re: How & when & why did you find Rivendell? What was your first bike or part from them?

about 20 years ago i stumbled onto the forum sponsored by Serotta Bicycle Company. via that virtual method, I was introduced to Dr. Douglas Brooks. He had the strongest opinions, the most convincing reasons for having those opinions, and a giant and every changing collection of bikes = only the

[RBW] Re: FS 55cm Orange Cheviot

Long shot but still available? DM if so On Tuesday, October 1, 2019 at 5:13:56 PM UTC-7, Bill Ruprecht wrote: > > A divorce is forcing me to sell a couple bikes. The first is a Pumpkin > Cheviot. Size 55. Complete except for Saddle > > Built with standard Rivendell components including: > >

[RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

Hey Matt! I got confused in your middle paragraph. Too many pronouns that seem reversed of what I thought you were saying for me to follow. Would you mind clarifying please? I've not heard anyone say wheelbase doesn't affect handling, significantly or otherwise. The entire experience I've had

[RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

I finally concluded that the chainstays on my 61 Roadini are just a hair too long at 46cm. I'm not opposed to longer chainstays, it's just that it would be nice if there were a Rivendell option other than the Roadeo that had slightly more traditional road geometry. If they had capped it at 44cm

[RBW] Re: WTB: 55cm Cheviot

Congratulations, Stanley! Off the cuff suggestion: kids grow up, even when you have more than 3 or 4, and a time will come when you may well want a bike that can go off pavement with abandon, in which case the buy it now, ride it forever nature of the hillibike is brilliant! Grin. With

[RBW] WTB: 55cm Cheviot

New dad here & looking to make it official with my first step-thru ;) Located in SF - up for bay area pickup or shipping. Also, prefer frame/form but also open to completes if it's not totally different than what I have in mind. Cheers Stan (619) three zero two - 0181 p.s. soft spot for Riv

[RBW] Re: FS: Closet purge! Filson Barbour Woolrich Holubar Rockmount Pendleton Giro Shimano...

What's left, additions, and PRICE DROPS! *SPD Shoes* - The first two were worn exactly one time. I have foot issues and these just did not work. I wear a 9 in almost everything, these fit fine. GIRO Rumble Size 44 - $45 - *$40* Shimano SH-MT34B Size 43 - $30 - *$25* LAKE LX140 winter boots

[RBW] WTB - Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass Tires

Used or new, one or a pair. I'm located in VA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

"Worth mentioning that that sounds like my sport bike, a Boulder All Road 650b true low trail skinny tubes and all. It's pretty short. Diving is how I describe it going into turns. It also carves good. Not swoopy though. Hmm." It also sounds like the Crust Lightning Bolt low-trail bike I had.

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 2:42:47 AM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I did ride Japanese bikes that were short and twitchy and dived instantly > into turns and you could change lines 5 times whether you wanted to or not. > Worth mentioning that that sounds like my sport bike, a Boulder All

[RBW] Re: FS - PaIr WTB Nano 700x40 - near new

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Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

It's good to hear the Sam carves like that. I've only ridden a drop bar Riv (Sam in 2011 or 12) around the shop a couple times. It was the first time I rode a Riv and the handling was noticeably fantastic immediately. I wonder what you'd get if you took a Sam, lengthened the top tube a lot,

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

Joe, I think you're right on about the stability and how it relates to motorcycles. My dad's motorcycle skill books went really deep into countersteering and pushing on the bars. I also think that because bikes are smaller and the human is the motor, there is more to swoopiness than the

[RBW] Re: WTB: Handlebar bag

Check out this posting over at the 650b listserv: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/650b/Jrs-JG5n11U/KTbke3c2CAAJ Tall Acorn Rando Bag for $150 shipped like new condition. I'd be all over it if I didn't just spend way too much money on other things. Patrick in DC On Wednesday, January 8, 2020

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

What Paul describes as swoopy is probably the same thing I've described to myself and maybe others as Rivendells (or, at at least the two I have) as carving when cornering. And I expect it's because the rider is so well balanced between front and back wheels with a Riv frame. Length is probably

[RBW] Re: long shot: looking to test ride a 60cm Cheviot in the DC area

> > per will, via joe, I believe all we know at this point is that it will be > "more >> rad" >> >> > paul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Velocity Quill experiences?

I have Velocity Quill on my Toyo Atlantis with 700x50 Soma Cazadero tires; the rims are awesome, but the tire/frame clearance it tight. I chose the Quill over the A23 because they were tubeless compatible and their wider inside width. Our Salsa Powderkeg tandem has a Cliffhanger with dynamo on

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

FWIW, bike stems are as short as zero mm for bmx riders. There are also 30+mm mtb stems which would require a quill adapter and shims, which is no big deal, and there are 2 short quill stems that also require shims. The zero Wright stem appears non-available.

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

And to double-down on my observation, this stability and predictability in steering is why I always like Rivs more than other bikes (and I've owned a bunch of others). It's not just wheelbase or chainstay length, I know there's some other can of numbers Grant juggles then sprinkles the magic

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

I used to be heavy into the motorcycles, and Ducatis of the era (late-'70s to mid-'80s) were visibly longer than Japanese sportbikes and had a reputation for slow steering. What the magazine testers meant by "slow" was you had to really push (countersteer) on the bar to get the bike leaned into