Joe, I think you're right on about the stability and how it relates to motorcycles. My dad's motorcycle skill books went really deep into countersteering and pushing on the bars. I also think that because bikes are smaller and the human is the motor, there is more to swoopiness than the bike's tendency to return to straight.
Like Jason is saying, it probably has to do with balancing weight between the front and back wheel, and I think also balance of steering input force with the bike's tendency for stability. Then there are speed, traction, and tire deflection things going on, so fatter softer tires may also increase swoopiness, which is another thing Riv has kinda always done before it was cool. I do see long bikes as a logical progression of the Riv riding aesthetic. I also think that the Gus is probably prophetic, but I haven't ridden one. If we lived in a bikey world, the Baby Bike would be a game changer. I really need to find a 52 Clem to ride around. Maybe the Clem nails it for 90% of everything. The other 10% are special cases, like big rocks or small kids. I put the long stem back on the Baby Bike last night. I'm gonna think about it more while I ride errands today. Paul On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 3:01:09 AM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: > > And to double-down on my observation, this stability and predictability in > steering is why I always like Rivs more than other bikes (and I've owned a > bunch of others). It's not just wheelbase or chainstay length, I know > there's some other can of numbers Grant juggles then sprinkles the magic > equation onto the tubes. Even more than the looks, the lugs, the > parts..what I love above all about Rivbikes is they go where I point them > and don't second guess me. It's comforting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c3e18fc4-3ba3-4362-8c38-1f98ea6b9364%40googlegroups.com.