Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread brendonoid
This thread made me finally weigh my 59cm Susie and it came in 15.9kg. which is more than I thought tbh. It would be 17kg normally I guess but currently doesn't have front rack and basket. There are a lot of places I could save weight I suppose. I have straight guage spokes, and b17 flyer, dyno

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
You guys are going to make me want to fall down the rabbit hole again and find little ways to lighten up my raspberry Platypus. And I have now just practically sent an invitation for people to tell me that weight doesn’t matter and I should think about the engine (me) and so on but not even th

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Johnny Alien
Does the raspberry Platy still have a dyno hub? If so that would be a big gain as far as weight loss and lessening drag. Otherwise you have it set up fairly light from what I remember about your posts. Paul components will sure help shave some grams. When weight is brought up the first thing Gr

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Sarah Carlson
Leah, now you will probably chime in with me and Joe on the conversations when we discuss how a crank can also be beautiful. Because once you recognize it you won't be able to unsee it! Sarah On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 4:04:25 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > You guys are g

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Richard Rose
Which circles back to original post. Having disassembled my Silver crank I have a new appreciation for it. It’s quite beautifully manufactured and now lighter thanks to the aluminum chainring. White Industries square taper crank in comparison is also beautiful & MUSA. But, complete with chainrings

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Leah Peterson
It will always have a dyno hub. I just can’t give up that kind of practicality. I didn’t know Paul components would save me any weight but I’m glad if they do. My Velo Orange levers were pretty feather-light already though. I probably do have the Platy set up as light as I dare, save the drivetrai

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Chris Fly
I think weight matters and one of the main reasons I LOVE looking at the Riv site and Riv bikes. but currently only own my Dad's AHH that was given to me when he passed.. I would never quibble over a couple pounds here or there, but reading through this thread and seeing the OP's frame/fork/whe

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Patrick Moore
It's interesting to view a moderately weight weenie thread on this list! expect Rivendell make their frames as heavy as they are largely to avoid breakage and resulting costs of return or repairs; that's a guess. But reviewers of even the Clem, which I gather from list discussions is built with h

[RBW] Re: Low q, low range 2x cranks

2024-01-14 Thread 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch
On 10 Jan Adam asked: " I'm thinking about moving away from a triple to a double in order to get a lower Q." One option is a 1980's Sugino AT (110/74mm BCD) set for a double, say 46-33, sicne 33T is the smallest 110mm BCD ring out there, e.g. TA Zephyr on Peter White's site. The AT was de

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Kim H.
I am not a weight weenie. I will take the beauty over the weight. I have enough low gears to not even think about. Kim Hetzel ...loving my beautiful retirement bicycle. On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 9:50:38 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote: > It's interesting to view a moderately weight weenie t

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Ron Mc
The scalar involved here, 6 lbs, and 15 lbs, hardly fits into weight weenie discussion. But I do remember a thread about why some bikes feel faster. Less energy going into changing the rotational speed of components means more energy going directly into drive. On Sunday, January 14, 2024 a

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2024-01-14 Thread Doug H.
Hi Kim, Yeah they do! The price is higher but if I really want green then that is my only option. Orange is available used for less money. Decisions, decisions... :-) Doug On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 11:08:26 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote: > Blue Lug has a Rivendell 54 Roadini Framset i

[RBW] Re: First turns of the pedals on my new Platypus

2024-01-14 Thread Doug H.
That Sergio Green is on par with Lime Olive, maybe better. Wow, that saddle is way up there! The bike looks great already even without grips. Doug On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 4:05:22 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > Another happy Platypus owner. I’m so happy you’re enjoying it; it

[RBW] Re: FS; Pile o’ parts! Dyno wheel, lights, brooks, nitto etc

2024-01-14 Thread 'joe kelly' via RBW Owners Bunch
Shifters sold. On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 10:12:39 AM UTC-5 joe kelly wrote: > Update > The Quickbeam ff/hs/bb has sold along with the crank, the original wheels, > post and the 5sp rear wheel. This leaves me with a pile o’ parts! > I have sks fenders, downtube shifters on bar end pods, a

[RBW] Re: Low q, low range 2x cranks

2024-01-14 Thread Adam
Thanks for all the help everyone! I definitely appreciate the V.O. cranks more now that I've seen the alternatives. I am still mulling it all over, but it seems like buying those and swapping the rings may be the thing for me. FWIW, I've come to prefer more compact cassettes for the FLAT riding

[RBW] FS; SP Dyno wheel bundle

2024-01-14 Thread 'joe kelly' via RBW Owners Bunch
Sold almost everything from the quickbeam even kept a few things to put on my old Bridgestone. What is left is the Sp dyno wheel and the Jack brown green tires. So I’m gonna try selling them as a bundle. Wheel is a SP dyno hub laced to a Velocity Twin Hollow rim. I bought the parts from Rivendel

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Armand Kizirian
The key here is to avoid the numbers, and focus on what the threshold is for *experience. *Let's investigate. Weight is traditionally discussed for going faster, but we are all "enlightened" enough to know to not spoil our riding experience with such matters. However, there are merits to the *p

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

2024-01-14 Thread Richard Rose
Dang. I thought / hoped it would cost a bit less than those other frames. Certainly cost less to manufacture than a Platypus? More than a Clem but…If offered as a complete the build kit should be less than either the Clem or Platy. On second thought the Platy kit is just $525.00 so..?I know, just h

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Richard Rose
Armand, yes, yes & yes! Your documentation will no doubt be very interesting. Let’s start with which triple crank will save you a full 1/2 pound?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 14, 2024, at 3:21 PM, Armand Kizirian wrote:The key here is to avoid the numbers, and focus on what the threshold is for exper

Re: [RBW] Re: Low q, low range 2x cranks

2024-01-14 Thread 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch
Adam You might want to verify with VO about the actual Q of their 50.4 crank.  They list a 144mm Q with a 118mm BB.  I exchanged emails with one member on the iBob list using the VO 50.4 crank and measured a 141.5mm Q with a 110mm BB.   This would indicated the Q stated by VO for their 50.4mm c

[RBW] Re: New Jewelry for my Platypus

2024-01-14 Thread Josh C
Love it! On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 4:10:31 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote: > Congratulations Leah. Now you have a one of a kind brake set on a custom > color Platy. > > On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 10:10:51 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote: > >> @Leah - >> >> I am certain with your new anodi

Re: [RBW] Re: Why do some bikes just feel consistently faster?

2024-01-14 Thread Patrick Moore
Actually, "not really" is not true. Others have raised old issues in new ways that clarified them to some extent; for example, enumerating all the factors that might play a part in such a feeling, and the elaborations on the phenomenon rightly or wrongly called "planing" On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 10

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Patrick Moore
I'll be very interested in hearing more about your experiences with the 2 build kits. Please be sure to itemize the individual components and describe how much you think each affected your riding experience. Also, I'll be interested to learn how light you can get a Platypus (what size?) with a top-

Re: [RBW] Re: Why do some bikes just feel consistently faster?

2024-01-14 Thread 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch
The discussion made me think about the various factors., especially Bill L's undergearing comments In my case, I went from a touring style frame with 7 speeds wide range gearing (13-34) to a thin wall frame with 9 speeds wide range gearing (12-36).   While the 2 extra gears dont seem like much,

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2024-01-14 Thread Kim H.
@Doug - Maybe the lighting in the photos are not true to the color of Sergio green despite the wording being so ? ... or ? At any rate, I hope you find what you are looking for in less time than you anticipate. Maybe it will be a serendipity experience, like it was with and my blue Clem. Kim

Re: [RBW] FS; SP Dyno wheel bundle

2024-01-14 Thread Richard Rose
Columbus, Ohio?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 14, 2024, at 3:19 PM, 'joe kelly' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:Sold almost everything from the quickbeam even kept a few things to put on my old Bridgestone. What is left is the Sp dyno wheel and the Jack brown green tires.So I’m gonna try selling them as a

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch
During a appearance on The Opiniated Cyclist, Richard Schwinn stated the following: Reducing the bike weight by 12 lbm, increases your speed by 1 mph, given the same power input from testing Schwinn did. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 12:11:36 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Be

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Richard Rose
12 pounds?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 14, 2024, at 7:49 PM, 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:During a appearance on The Opiniated Cyclist, Richard Schwinn stated the following:  Reducing the bike weight by 12 lbm, increases your speed by 1 mph, given the same power input fro

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Chris Fly
if you just look at the numbers, you can go down a long rabbit hole and certainly justify a heavy bike.. I agree 1mph isn't anything.. what you can't justify with numbers is what a heavy bike *feels* like when riding.. some heavier bikes certainly can "ride light", but many don't in my experien

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch
Yes, that is what I remember.  I dont know if the lady still has the podcast.   She had a shop in Cleveland, so if someone is from the area, maybe they can chime in.    She also said if you feel like you want to push yourself back on the saddle, your distance to the bars is too great.  Counteri

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch
Chris made some good points.   I am not justifying a heavy bike, merely pointing out what you can expect if you take that trip & 'go down the rabbit hole' wrt to reducing frame weight and overall weight including the rims/tires.  You may not get your kicks on Rt 66 ('when you take that CA trip.

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2024-01-14 Thread Doug H.
My message was poorly worded. I like the Sergio Green. In fact, I've liked all of the green Rivendells I've seen. Orange isn't my favorite though so my hesitation on buying the like new Orange frameset that is now on Craigslist. Thanks all for you help and tips. I'll let this thread roll on dow

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Ron Mc
What makes a bike joyous is not 1 mph, 15 mph, or 23 mph, but the dynamic changes between those velocities. On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 7:25:57 PM UTC-6 John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ wrote: > Chris made some good points. I am not justifying a heavy bike, merely > pointing out what you can

Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

2024-01-14 Thread John Rinker
May each of you reach and fully enjoy reaching each of your SMART goals throughout the upcoming year! Steve, I really align with your goal of enjoying each ride, and this will continue to be a goal for me. I find the crux of the matter lies in being *present* during each of my rides; the more

[RBW] Re: First turns of the pedals on my new Platypus

2024-01-14 Thread Joe Bernard
That's a nice bike! I totally agree about trigger shifters, they work and I love them. The derailleur my trigger works with on my Clem (SRAM) is also pretty ugly but I can't see it while it's working fabulously on a ride. No problem! 😁 Joe Bernard On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 11:28:40 AM UT

[RBW] FS: Paul Minimoto Brakes $225

2024-01-14 Thread Ben Adrian
Paul Minimoto Silver Set. Non-polished. Two brakes. One bike's worth. These stop so well, but the setup and cable pull is just a little fiddly for me. $225 shipped in the US. Thanks! (cutting board not included) https://flic.kr/p/2psqz2m https://flic.kr/p/2psveze https://flic.kr/p/2psxptT Also