Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-06-02 Thread Philip Kim
You can also get the compression straps from Riv to strap the panniers. I like to use a large saddle bag and front panniers and basket up front. On Friday, May 29, 2015 at 12:45:36 AM UTC-4, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote: > > Anne, > > If you have spare/leftover cotton bar tape, those will also work,

Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-29 Thread Patrick Moore
Adjust the bottom hook so that it puts a bit of tension on the top hooks -- the plastic back of the bag acting as a sort of spring. That won't stop all noise, but it will stop most of it. On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote: > Anne, > > If you have spare/leftover cotton b

Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-28 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
Anne, If you have spare/leftover cotton bar tape, those will also work, especially as you can easily wrap layers to fit an adaptor-less Ortlieb bag. However, I've found that the rattling isn't from the top hooks. Because Ortliebs don't have the traditional elastic strap/hook, they rattle about

Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-27 Thread Anne Paulson
I was using the right size of inserts, but my Ortlieb bags are veterans of a trip from Washington to Maine, and another one from Tecate to the Canadian border, as well as numerous other trips. They're experienced. And of the eight inserts that I initially had, four are left. They fall out. On Tue,

Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-27 Thread Robert F. Harrison
First let me say that I use both panniers and saddlebags. Indeed I'm currently using the original Large Saddlesack with #2 as my serial number. I also have racks on my bikes so that large sack is supported (okay, I do have a couple of bikes without rear racks but one is in Hilo and I'm not there of

Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-27 Thread Patrick Moore
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Montclair BobbyB < montclairbob...@gmail.com> wrote: > Anne: First of all you're my HERO!!! Please make sure you post photos of > your epic ride (as often as possible :). > Yes, please! > > I am a fan of all bike bags... I have saddlebags, panniers, rack, > ha

Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-27 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Anne: First of all you're my HERO!!! Please make sure you post photos of your epic ride (as often as possible :). I am a fan of all bike bags... I have saddlebags, panniers, rack, handlebar and frame bags... NO SUCH THING as a bad bike bag, in my opinion. That said, I generally prefer a saddl

Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread Mike Shaljian
I had used panniers and a small saddlebag exclusively on my Sam, and recently thought of switching to "bikepacking-style" bags on my Jones Plus. I thought I could be a stealth ninja with all-black Revelate/Porcelain Rocket bags for my bikepacking rig, but they just seem too confining and hard to

Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
The "romance" has overtaken me! Panniers, saddlebag, handlebar bag, folder "frontbag", rack trunk, frame bag, basket bag... as long as it's canvas and supported by steel and/or leather if at all practical... I love it. As for Arkel/Ortlieb/other... the fine well-engineered examples have decided

Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread Anne Paulson
I was using the right inserts for the pannier hooks, but on checking my panniers, I see that I've lost several of them. They fall out, and they break. I don't notice it on flat pavement, but on dirt they go bumpity bumpity bumpity. I'm going to follow your innertube/ziptie advice, though. On Tue,

Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Anne, I skipped the Ortlieb inserts and went to a hardware store and bought some clear tubing of the proper diameter for my rack. This stuff is similar to surgical tubing; soft and pliable. I cut four pieces the appropriate length to fit between the cross members of the rack where the pannier

Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread William deRosset
>If you want a more expansive style of touring, the bikepacking seatbag isn't big enough. My next problem is how to stop the Ortliebs from being so rattly on the rack. Those stupid little >inserts fall out or break, and then the pannier is noisy in off-road touring. -- Dear Anne, A bikepacki

Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread Tim Gavin
Anne- There are two sizes of inserts for the Orlieb clips; ensure you're using the ones that fit your rack tubing. One size fits the Nitto rack on my Riv perfectly, the other size fits the Tubus on my KOM. As for the rattle; I added a rubber spacer to the rack to make the bottom more secure (I w

Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread Tim Gavin
I prefer panniers for the reasons you stated, and because the quick release systems for panniers are more reliable and less expensive than those for saddlebags. I have a pair of Vaude panniers with the Ortlieb system. They're secure, and easy to remove with one hand. > > My two reasons: > > 1. I

Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread Anne Paulson
> 1. I can carry more in 2 panniers than in the largest saddlebag (well, I've > not used the Sackville Large, but don't tell me it carries more than 2 > Ortlieb Packers or Rollers); after all, if I'm gonna use a rack, then I > might as well get max vol. So funny-- I actually made this very test a

[RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

2015-05-26 Thread Patrick Moore
I know many of y'all swear by big saddlebags, supported or not. I've used many if not most of the various large (Nelson upward) saddlebags made over the last 20 years, and though I really like them (I loved the Hoss on the trike and the Sackville Medium on the Curt) I always, always, always come ba