[RBW] Re: ?Appaloosa versus Sam Hillborne

2017-02-04 Thread 'mlpessar' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thanks for the comments regarding tires. That is an important point for me. I would like the ability to ride 50s. Bob, I appreciate the kind offer to help out with camping recommendations. I will keep that in mind as the trip planning progresses. On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 4:15:15 PM UTC-

[RBW] Re: ?Appaloosa versus Sam Hillborne

2017-02-04 Thread Bob B
I rode the GAP-C&O last summer on a Hunqapillar. The C&O, while my favorite half, was pretty bumpy. If you want to do more adventure rides, I'd suggest the Appaloosa because you'll get the clearance for fatter tires and fenders. It will ride fine on pavement. Have fun on your trip!!! P.S., feel

[RBW] Re: ?Appaloosa versus Sam Hillborne

2017-02-04 Thread Edwin W
Having owned both, I would say the major differences are tire width, chain stay length and brake style. And of course color. I know the Appaloosa is billed more as a touring bike, but I haven't heard of anyone feeling the Sam to be too flimsy for touring! Currently with an Appaloosa for tire wi

[RBW] Re: ?Appaloosa versus Sam Hillborne

2017-02-03 Thread dougP
Marc: FWIW, Adventure Cyclist, the magazine of the Adventure Cycling Association, got several Rivendell models to test. Note that touring is what ACA is all about, and they see a lot of bikes. Long story made short, ACA employees bought both the Sam and the Joe after testing & living with the

[RBW] Re: ?Appaloosa versus Sam Hillborne

2017-02-03 Thread 'mlpessar' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thanks to all for your responses. Upright bars make sense for me. Ray, I will ride the Kenda Kwik Bitumens on the complete build for awhile and more than likely move up to at least 50s. As I mentioned earlier, I was leaning toward the Appaloosa. This discussion has helped confirm this as the

[RBW] Re: ?Appaloosa versus Sam Hillborne

2017-02-03 Thread Ray Varella
Marc, How large of a tire do you want to ride? The Appaloosa will take a considerably larger tire. There are lots of choices these days in high quality tires in really fat sizes. There is very little handicap in running 55mm tires and they really make a bike more versatile. They are both

[RBW] Re: ?Appaloosa versus Sam Hillborne

2017-02-03 Thread drew
i think either of the bikes is totally adequate for what you plan to do with it, in terms of loads and off road riding. never ridden a joe, but i have a sam and a hunq and for argument's sake ill pretend the hunq is a lot like a joe. i think what ed said about drop bars is really important. ive

[RBW] Re: ?Appaloosa versus Sam Hillborne

2017-02-03 Thread 'mlpessar' via RBW Owners Bunch
Roberta and Jeff, thanks very much for the mention of Gravel & Grind. Unfortunately they are several hours away from my location. Should I find myself in the Frederick vicinity I will definitely stop in. Roberta, happy hunting. On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 6:22:31 PM UTC-5, Roberta Chase wro

[RBW] Re: ?Appaloosa versus Sam Hillborne

2017-02-03 Thread Ed Carolipio
I was making a similar choice a couple of months ago and ended up with an Appaloosa - having ridden neither and mostly from reading what folks posted in this group. Deciding factors for me were (1) I was never going to use drop bars and (2) I'd always have at least a light load, i.e. the front/

[RBW] Re: ?Appaloosa versus Sam Hillborne

2017-02-03 Thread Les Lammers
I'm 64 and have a Chevoit with the long chainstays that keep your heels away from rear bags. Very comfortable ride and it does not feel 'slow'. On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 4:15:15 PM UTC-5, mlpessar wrote: > > Guys, I have a good problem to have. I'm in the process of deciding > between an

[RBW] Re: ?Appaloosa versus Sam Hillborne

2017-02-03 Thread Roberta Chase
Marc, >From where you're planning to ride, can I assume you're in PA or MD? Gravel and Grind in Frederick, MD is a dealer and fairly close. I took a 3 hour trip to visit them. They have a dozen bikes built up to test and will let you ride them all day long on local trails. Ask for James.

[RBW] Re: ?Appaloosa versus Sam Hillborne

2017-02-03 Thread 'mlpessar' via RBW Owners Bunch
On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 4:15:15 PM UTC-5, mlpessar wrote: > > Guys, I have a good problem to have. I'm in the process of deciding > between an Appaloosa and a Sam Hillborne. I'd very much appreciate your > input; particularly from folks who are familiar with both of these bikes. > 90%+

[RBW] Re: ?Appaloosa versus Sam Hillborne

2017-02-03 Thread Philip Kim
i've owned a sam, and only test ridden a joe. the joe felt like a fairly fast cruiser to me, and the same felt more like a sport touring bike-more nimble but still stable. if i had to choose between both, i'd go appaloosa - tire clearance, canti/v-brake posts/and longer top tube to put an uprig

Re: [RBW] Re: ?Appaloosa versus Sam Hillborne

2017-02-03 Thread Eric Floden
I don't own either but seem to recall one of them (forgot which) had an upper limit of 215 pounds. No longer see it listed though . . . if that is a factor maybe investigate further? Eric Vancouver where it is snowing like mad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Googl

[RBW] Re: ?Appaloosa versus Sam Hillborne

2017-02-03 Thread Ryan Fleming
I haven't ridden either of these bikes (they both sound appealing) but I believe one of the distinguishing characteristics is the chainstay length ; the App has longer chainstays and therefore longer wheelbase which accounts for the plusher ride. But.don't take my word for it. I'm sure if y

[RBW] Re: ?Appaloosa versus Sam Hillborne

2017-02-03 Thread Ash A
Marc, Couple of months ago I went to Riv to test ride Sam. Loved the bike, didn't like the orange color. Couple of weeks later went back to take another look. The more I looked at it, I started liking the orange :) However, after riding both Sam and Joe for an hour each, I decided to order

[RBW] Re: ?Appaloosa versus Sam Hillborne

2017-02-03 Thread Jeffrey B
Hi Marc, If you are in the DC area, Gravel and Grind is in Frederick, MD and they might have something in stock for you to try. Jeff On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 4:15:15 PM UTC-5, mlpessar wrote: > > Guys, I have a good problem to have. I'm in the process of deciding > between an Appaloosa