[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread dougP
There you have it from someone with all 3 sizes. Come to think of it, didn't BQ do a test a while back with 3 frames, one for each wheel size, that were otherwise identical? IIRC, it was testing handling, and the conclusion was that the smaller wheels with chubbier tires could handle

Re: [RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread Patrick Moore
I know that "twenty niner" wheels -- with 65 mm tire mine have measured almost 30", and the 51 mm tires on the wheels now measure 28.8" -- seem to float through sand and smooth out small, high frequency bumps better than tires 2" smaller, this for the same width. On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:34 PM,

Re: [RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread Patrick Moore
There is a pronounced opposite effect: smaller wheels are lighter and "shorter" so their gyroscopic effect is less, and bikes shod with them are more agile, or nervous if you prefer, though the overall handling of a smaller-wheeled bike, at least those designed by Grant, can handle impeccably.

[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread Hugh Smitham
It's my perception that the 26" wheel is easier to get rolling and keep rolling than 650b & 700c wheels. For me at least my Atlantis seems to climb better than those other sizes and I have all three sizes. I've seen old MTB & Touring large frames with 26" and the riders didn't seem to mind.

[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread dougP
My wife has a 47 cm Atlantis with 26" wheels, shod with 1.5" tires. I have a 58 cm Atlantis with 700c wheels. She has been known to leave me behind if she feels like it. Any claimed performance differences based on wheel size are lost on me. dougP On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at

[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread iamkeith
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned "stability." I don't have enough experience to really know if it's true but, along with the worldwide availability, I always thought that was one of the main arguments for 26" wheels. Basically, the idea that the lower gyroscopic center of gravity of the

[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-17 Thread 'Steve D.' via RBW Owners Bunch
When I first built my '03 Atlantis (51 cm), a friend gave me an earful of criticism for have 26" wheels--"Your bike will be too slow. "You should've gotten 700cc wheels." Uggh. Really, I've been riding/commuting on this bike, off and on, for 13 years. It's the most comfortable bike I've

Re: [RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-16 Thread Patrick Moore
Now now -- though I believe a little well considered spitefulness is sometimes a work of mercy. On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 2:59 PM, sameness wrote: > So what size wheels are on your Magna? > > Jeff Hagedorn > Los Angeles, CA USA > > > On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 1:53:05 PM

[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-16 Thread john
Several (more like 20) years ago, I rode a 55 or 56 cm (can't remember exactly) Bridgestone X0-3, which I loved, although it was a bit small for me (I'm almost 6 feet tall). It had 26" wheels, mustache bars, slicks (26x1.75) and knobbier (up to 1.95s). What a fun bike! I toured with it and it

[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-16 Thread sameness
So what size wheels are on your Magna? Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 1:53:05 PM UTC-8, Garth wrote: > > > Theories abound, everyone has them and yet no one knows the Truth. > There is a reason why theories are called theories ! No man knows or can >

Re: [RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-16 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/16/2016 02:02 PM, Ron Mc wrote: I'm thinking if your legs are short, a 26" is fine. But if you're 6'3" and all limbs like me, it has to be 700c. If nothing else, just to have acceptable pedal clearance. Looks like plenty of pedal clearance here... -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-16 Thread Garth
Theories abound, everyone has them and yet no one knows the Truth. There is a reason why theories are called theories ! No man knows or can know the Absolute , Truth . Just ride what you Love , with Love. Pay no mind, funny how everything turns out just perfect in spite of all the

[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-16 Thread Michael Hechmer
We run 26" wheels on our touring tandem. We are a tall ( 6'1" & 5'9") and heavy (360 lbs) team. Add in a heavy steel frame at 40+ lbs, front and real panniers, water, etc and our touring weight runs around 430lbs, and day rides a bit over 400 lbs. Yet we have been riding the same 26", 36

[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-16 Thread Bill Lindsay
Rivendell, more than any other bicycle source in the world, believes that wheel diameter should go along with frame size. There is no other bicycle manufacturer on earth that practices that theory more than Rivendell. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with 26" wheels for a really tall

[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-16 Thread Neil
What about relative wheel strength? 26" is smaller, shorter spokes, stronger wheel...? In theory, but I bet the real-world difference is small, all things being equal. On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 10:46:53 AM UTC-8, john wrote: > > I'm wondering about the difference in tire sizes for loaded

[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-16 Thread Ron Mc
I'm thinking if your legs are short, a 26" is fine. But if you're 6'3" and all limbs like me, it has to be 700c. If nothing else, just to have acceptable pedal clearance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

2016-02-16 Thread Deacon Patrick
A wheel is a wheel is a wheel. There are different characteristics to different sizes, but no "ideal". As near as I can tell looking at Grant's offerings, he sizes the wheel to the frame which is presumably sized to the rider. That makes far more sense to me than does 26" for all MTBs or other