I have had problems with chain suck on many bikes. IME easily fixed
with Deda fang:
http://www.amazon.com/Deda-Fang-Bicycle-Chain-Keeper/dp/B001SIEXQK
currently in use on several Rivendells, a Richard Sachs, and others
housed in my garage.
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> Doug: I'm getting it mostly on the granny ring, sometimes on the
> middle, with the rear derailer on the smaller cogs. Almost exclusively
> on dirty, so probably fairly bumpy.
Granny on the smaller cogs means not much tension on the chain. Shift
to the granny & big cog, and note where the RD ca
Thanks again to everyone for your replies.
Doug: I'm getting it mostly on the granny ring, sometimes on the
middle, with the rear derailer on the smaller cogs. Almost exclusively
on dirty, so probably fairly bumpy.
Cyclofiend: Hmm... its hard to say. I will have to get some opinions
from Gernot a
Are the cogs on the Shimano freewheel *thicker* than those on the 9-
speed cassette with which the chain was designed to work? If so, could
the freewheel be "reluctant" to let go of the chain, causing chain
tension changes that might lead to chain suck?
FYI: I've had my issues. But never chain suc
+1 for Thomas observations. I think the BB question has been sorted
out on this forum & somewhere here there's a chart of models and sizes
that may be more accurate than the guidance on the Riv site. Some
issues seem to have too many combinations to say for sure what works &
what won't. Isn't tr
On Feb 16, 4:35 am, Paul Yeoh wrote:
>
> Gernot: How interesting.. I just checked my Riv invoice and it lists a
> 107mm Tange Super BB. Not that I know what that means, but it reads on
> Riv's site that all Riv bikes should use 113 mm except the Atlantis
> that uses 107 mm.
> Whether I really have
Do you have the stock Sugino rings? I originally used the Sugino
triple (on a Rambouillet), but had replaced the rings with Shimano. I
had a fair amount of chain suck between the big and middle ring. I
added a very small spacer behind the middle ring and that solved the
problem. It did however
on 2/16/11 6:45 AM, Paul Yeoh at rawfoodcuis...@gmail.com wrote:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulatwork/sets/72157625941494045/
Hard to say from the angles, but it almost looks like your front derailleur
has been twisted slightly on the seat tube.
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Paul:
I'm not betting on the spindle length. IME it's not critical. My
Atlantis came with a 116, which I replaced with a 110 when the
original died. The Atlantis chainstays really stick out there, and
the 110 leaves only about 2 mm gap between the middle ring & the
chainstay. So you should be
Much thanks to all your thought and effort! Chain line looks ok
looking at the pics.
Michael: I'm not sure if that law has been violated... this problem
has been chronic.
Gernot: I can't judge if its a lot or a little space, but the pics are
here if you care to look! I've got calipers thanks, wil
I think Michael meant to say you have to pull the cranks, and measure
the spindle length. I have calipers if you want them. I don't know if
spindle length matters. I was just thinking that if the spindle is too
long, than the chain might be exiting the granny not in a straight
line heading for the
You will need a caliper. Pull the pedals off and measure the length
of the spindle. It only matters if you are unhappy with the chain
line. You can check out Sheldon's web site for a good discussion of
this.
Of course, the other possibility here is that the first law mechanics
has been violated.
James: Thanks for that info!
Gernot: How interesting.. I just checked my Riv invoice and it lists a
107mm Tange Super BB. Not that I know what that means, but it reads on
Riv's site that all Riv bikes should use 113 mm except the Atlantis
that uses 107 mm.
Whether I really have a 107 or that's jus
I have the same size Hillborne (but earlier Taiwan version) with the
same crank (Sugino XD-2), same chain (SRAM 9 speed), older generation
but NOS low normal XT derailer (but different front derailer, though I
can't see how that would matter), and have no issues with chain suck
(okay, 2 or 3 instan
i used an 8spd chain on my bike with my 7spd freewheel and it made all
kinds of noise in both the front and back and trimming was very
difficult... i realized my front and rear derailer are both 9spd
derailers i got off of ebay and so spaced a little tighter. i put a
9spd chain on and it works gre
Matt: Well, its a brand new RR XT derailer so not likely the spring is
worn. I did turn in the spring tension screw some more but it made no
difference though.
Michael: Good to know. I'd like to try a wipperman for next year.
Patrick: Hmm I could try that. I think the beeswax is for some element
Paul:
> Matt: Yes, perhaps I should try an 8spd chain. They have bigger spaces
> than 9 spd don't they?
Check out the Harris / Sheldon website for general chain info but IIRC
9 speed is narrower. I always buy ones marked "6/7/8" speed for my 8
speed. I generally buy whatever is on sale for arou
Paul: you might try paraffin without the beeswax: that's what I use;
in fact, I use old ornamental candle ends -- paraffin, not beeswax --
donated by friends, so my chains smell like vanilla or cinnamon or
lavender, at least briefly -- tho' I do add a dash of bitters or,
rather, leftover 30 weight
I too have had poor performance from Sram chains, lots of jumping and
skipping. Wippermans Conex are consistently the best chains I have
ever used. If youchange chains and the problem doesn't go away you
wont have lost anything; you'll just have a chain in inventory.
michael
On Feb 15, 6:39 am,
Hey Paul,
One more thing that just occured to me to check (you may have already
done this) is that the rear derailer springs are working/keeping good
tension on the chain.
Dang, I didn't realize that Wippermans were that expensive over
there. They're not that cheap here either... they're like $
Thanks for all your replies.
Seth: Just checked, its not the rails.
Patrick: Think I read on EcoVelo to use that paraffin/beeswax ratio.
It worked really well when the chain was still clean, chain ran more
silent than when new.
Matt: Yes, perhaps I should try an 8spd chain. They have bigger spac
On Feb 14, 11:59 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> Beeswax is rather sticky for lubing bike parts, no? I know it gummed
> up the springs on my former Speedplays. Why do you add beeswax?
>
Hi Paul,
Patrick raises a good point-- maybe try something other than the
paraffin/wax mixture. Since chain suc
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