Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

2021-03-04 Thread Anthony Coffin
A lot has to do with how high your bars are and what kind of riding your doing, in my experience. The higher the bar the more likely it is to be tilted. Tilt can really be a benefit off pavement, especially bumpy descents. On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 1:03 PM 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-own

Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

2021-03-04 Thread Patch T
Everyone's different! I like my Albatrosses tilted downward and my saddle just above the height of the bends. This gives me an upright position (for me, relatively) at the ends; a position at the bends that is very close to my drop-bar builds, good for efforts; and every spot in-between. I pers

Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

2021-03-03 Thread Tim Baldwin
Yes, tighten that stem clamp. I think the move to 31.8 clamp makes sense for swept back bars. The 31.8 Tosco feels super solid wiith the Nitto faceplate quill stem. On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 1:03:43 PM UTC-6 John Phillips wrote: > I tilt my Albatross bars down like Eric's Alba's or Tom's

Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

2021-03-03 Thread 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch
I tilt my Albatross bars down like Eric's Alba's or Tom's Tosco's. I like a nearly 90 degree angle between the bar and my arm/wrist. With stem length & height, bar height, bar angle, and grips, everyone's needs are different , but one absolutely needs to tighten that bar clamp. John -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

2021-03-03 Thread Eric Marth
Thanks jrstern, yeah, it's extreme! And part of my noodling quest for comfort. Figured any and every configuration is worth a shot. Thanks again :) On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 12:57:27 PM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com wrote: > Eric, those bars are tilted way low. When I rode albatross I was always

Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

2021-03-01 Thread Ride for Fun
Eric, those bars are tilted way low. When I rode albatross I was always far forward, why I switched to Choco, so I could reach more without a change in shape, but I never angled my bars like that except for one test ride where they slipped due to not being tightened enough. I found that position

Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

2021-02-26 Thread Tom Wyland
Something to try that made my Albatross handlebars more comfortable: tilt down the bars a bit so the grips are slightly lower than the hoops of the bar. On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 1:25:11 PM UTC-5 Shoji Takahashi wrote: > Hi Eric, > Is your neck pain from extending your neck? Did you have

Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

2021-02-26 Thread 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch
Eric, I mounted my Albatross bars on a Nitto NP 12cm stem (measures 12.5cm) with the stem at saddle height and bars angled down to be at a 90 degree angle to my arms. This angle keeps my wrists from kinking and places the curves of the bars about 5cm above my saddle. My saddle is slammed back on

Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

2021-02-26 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi Eric, Is your neck pain from extending your neck? Did you have similar pain when using the drop bars? Other pains/problems? Like you, I prefer the forward position of albatross bars-- it feels natural for me, perhaps since I like to lean forward. If you would like a more upright/cruising pos

Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

2020-11-13 Thread Joel S
Thanks Pete, just got the Choco bars from Blue Lug as Riv is our with no known delivery time. I paid a $27 premium for 2 shipped so not bad. On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 12:02:21 PM UTC-5 Pete P wrote: > I first tried upright h’bars on my older Atala bike. Just to see if it > > would work

Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

2020-11-13 Thread Joel Stern
Thanks Pete, just got the Choco bars from Blue Lug as Riv is our with no known de,I very time. I paid a $27 premium for 2 shipped so not bad. On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 12:02 PM Pete P wrote: > I first tried upright h’bars on my older Atala bike. Just to see if it > > would work for me. I bought Al

Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

2020-11-13 Thread Pete P
I first tried upright h’bars on my older Atala bike. Just to see if it would work for me. I bought Albatross bars and it was a revelation! So on my Atlantis I ditched my noodle drop bars and chose the Choco bars - just for variety. I like both of these. (I won’t go back to those now uncomfo

Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

2020-11-06 Thread Joel Stern
Thanks Roberta. On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 4:11 AM Roberta wrote: > My understanding is that the *bars* are the same shape and size; they > differ in the stem attachment. I have the c-m ones because that's what > came with the bike. The norm version is more versatile. > > There is a lot of choco-lo

Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

2020-11-06 Thread Ed Fausto
With all the discussion on Choco norm, I better try mine (bought last year) to replace an Albatross on may Joe. On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 5:10 PM Roberta wrote: > My understanding is that the *bars* are the same shape and size; they > differ in the stem attachment. I have the c-m ones because that

Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

2020-11-06 Thread Roberta
My understanding is that the *bars* are the same shape and size; they differ in the stem attachment. I have the c-m ones because that's what came with the bike. The norm version is more versatile. There is a lot of choco-love here Good luck with your search. On Thursday, November 5, 2020

Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

2020-11-05 Thread Joel Stern
Thanks Roberta. It is the Choco Norm I am thinking about. On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 9:31 PM Roberta wrote: > I only ride one hand position--at the end. > > I had Choco-Moose (C-M) on my Joe Appaloosa and loved it. I had Albatross > on my A Homer Hilsen and liked it. > > A year later, I swapped ou

[RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

2020-11-05 Thread Roberta
I only ride one hand position--at the end. I had Choco-Moose (C-M) on my Joe Appaloosa and loved it. I had Albatross on my A Homer Hilsen and liked it. A year later, I swapped out the C-M on Joe A. for Albatross, trying to lighten my bike, and disliked it.I kept the albatross on my AHH

Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

2020-11-05 Thread Joel Stern
Thanks Paul. On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 5:03 PM Paul Richardson wrote: > i ride a homer hilsen with albatross bars and a wolbis with chocos and > find the "second" hand position is much more useful on the chocos. just my > 2¢. probably can't go wrong with either. > > paul > takoma park, md. > On T

Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

2020-11-05 Thread Paul Richardson
i ride a homer hilsen with albatross bars and a wolbis with chocos and find the "second" hand position is much more useful on the chocos. just my 2¢. probably can't go wrong with either. paul takoma park, md. On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 3:39:40 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote: > Thanks Erik, I thi

Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

2020-11-05 Thread Joel Stern
Thanks Erik, I think I have to give them a try. Riv will get some in one day. On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 3:24 PM Erik Wright wrote: > I love Albatross bars, but I like the Choco's a bit better too. Something > about them, like Ben said, feels a little more natural in a way that the > bars seem to so

Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

2020-11-05 Thread Joel Stern
Thanks Ben. From the looks I like has the Choco has a similar look as the flats of drops. I usually ride close to or on the curves of the Albatross but have thought the Choco might give me more area. I am towards the bottom of my same and the same with the Bleriot I have, so the TT is plenty lon

[RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

2020-11-05 Thread Ben Mihovk
I'm a Choco man myself. I did use a bar similar to the albatross (not a Nitto). I like them better and will stick with them as I like how my hands are in a more natural position...like pushing a wheel barrow, I guess...this position gets my shoulders, elbows, and wrists/hands in a kind of neate