[RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!

2012-08-20 Thread The Cripler
I fiddled with the Neo-Retro this weekend and it seems my blind tweaking has worked. The front brake now has much more stopping power. The rear Touring brake is still stronger though. I can actually lock up the rear wheel without a tremendous amount of hand force. On Thursday, August 16, 2

[RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!

2012-08-18 Thread ted
I have never used the Pauls, and you have a fair bit more mass to slow down than I do, so my experiences may not be relevant. If the straddle wire end of the brake is above the pivot point (when the pads are touching he rim) then the lower the straddle wire, the more leverage you are going to get.

[RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!

2012-08-18 Thread ted
Sometimes it seems that cables are the bane of my existence. I've taken to leaving em as long as I can minimize the need to replace em if I decide to change something. I recently replaced an old stem with a taller one and now the front brake cable and housing are only barely long enough to permit

Re: [RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!

2012-08-18 Thread Peter Morgano
I mean replacing the brake wires, not the actual cables. Not the biggest job I know but fiddling with brakes is tedious work. I like how the Pauls have adjustable tension and i would like to acutally have more snap back but then it really goes gorilla hand mode. Am I missing something to the setup?

Re: [RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!

2012-08-18 Thread Peter Morgano
Paul touring, I noticed now my cable straddle is pretty high but lowering it means replacement on the cables. Will wait for a rainy day and see if I can get it right. Front is pretty good but rear is somewhat tight. On Aug 19, 2012 12:02 AM, "ted" wrote: > What kind of brakes do you have? > It

[RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!

2012-08-18 Thread ted
What kind of brakes do you have? It took me a while to get the cr720s on my Bombadill to run quiet but they are fine now. On Aug 18, 6:45 pm, Peter Morgano wrote: > Nice stuff, did you hand paint that rear rack or find a spray that was a > good match? I am this close to just admitting defeat and

[RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!

2012-08-18 Thread ted
I only skimmed over that write up, but I think its much simpler to stick with vertical and horizontal components at the cable attachment to the brake. The vertical component is independent of straddle wire angle, the horizontal part goes to infinity as the straddle wire becomes straight. I think th

[RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!

2012-08-18 Thread ted
I only skimmed over that write up, but I think its much simpler to stick with vertical and horizontal components at the cable attachment to the brake. The vertical component is independent of straddle wire angle, the horizontal part goes to infinity as the straddle wire becomes straight. I think th

Re: [RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!

2012-08-18 Thread Peter Morgano
Nice stuff, did you hand paint that rear rack or find a spray that was a good match? I am this close to just admitting defeat and bringin in my Bombadi to the LBS to have them tweak the brakes. I finally got them to stop squeaking but feel like I need to grip them like a gorilla to make them work w

[RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!

2012-08-18 Thread Michael Hechmer
Very sweet looking. It reignites my Atlantis lust! What kind of pedals am I seeing? There is definitely a learning curve to Paul's cantis, but after a short while it will seem very easy to readjust them, or take them on & off when you want to. Michael On Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:29:52 AM

[RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!

2012-08-17 Thread Matt Beebe
Here's a link to a cool document describing the MA for various brake profiles: http://www.circleacycles.com/cantilevers/canti-geometry.pdf It even uses as an Paul Neo Retros as an example. -Matt On Friday, August 17, 2012 1:42:32 PM UTC-4, Mojo wrote: > > Funny how canti brakes are so s

[RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!

2012-08-17 Thread Mojo
Funny how canti brakes are so simple yet quite theoretically and operationally quite complicated. As I understand canti operations, I agree with Jeremy that you will gain some mechanical advantage from a lower straddle cable. You might also run fine sandpaper along the rim braking surface just

[RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!

2012-08-17 Thread Jeremy Till
The most helpful article on cantilever adjustment is here: http://sheldonbrown.com/canti-trad.html It sounds like, from your description (not tons of power, requires lots of hand strength) and looking at your pictures, that you might have the straddle cable set too high/long, which seems to

[RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!

2012-08-16 Thread The Cripler
I will definitely post some pics after I shellac the bars. I like the Pauls alot. The rear touring canti is really resposnsive and powerful. I am still having some issues with the front neo-retro. It just doesn't seem nearly as powerful and requires quite a bit of hand strength. I had my buddy w

[RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!

2012-08-16 Thread SteveD
Very nice. Would like to see photos after you shellac the bars; I suspect that that will complement your Brooks nicely. How do you like the Pauls? I installed the same set on my Atlantis last month. Even thought I haven't tweak them much, they work great. Steve Seattle On Thursday, August 16,

Re: [RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!

2012-08-16 Thread Lyle Bogart
Lookin' Good! Cheers! lyle On 16 August 2012 10:32, The Cripler wrote: > > > > On Thursday, August 16, 2012 7:29:52 AM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote: > >> Several weeks back, with the hear

[RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!

2012-08-16 Thread The Cripler
On Thursday, August 16, 2012 7:29:52 AM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote: > > Several weeks back, with the hearty encouragement of this forums > members, I purchased my first Rivendell - a us

[RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!

2012-08-16 Thread The Cripler
On Thursday, August 16, 2012 7:29:52 AM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote: > > Several weeks back, with the hearty encouragement of this forums > members, I purchased my first Rivendell - a us