[RBW] Re: BB length for Atlantis with White VBC cranks?

2014-05-16 Thread blakcloud
Mark, On a non Rivendell bike that I had those cranks on I used a 122.5 BB. I could have went a little shorter had the chainstays been dimpled for crankrings. It was that inner bolt on the 36 chainring that caused much of the problem as the head sticks out past the chainring. I came up with 122

[RBW] Re: BB length for Atlantis with White VBC cranks?

2014-05-16 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Wow, really? Erik of Bikenoir/Cosmic Country mentioned 113mm BB on the Hunqapillar. I have a VBC Mountain and 113mm waiting for installation in the box... maybe I'll need to plan on a longer time window before venturing. Here's the link to the thread on 113/VBC/Hunqapillar: https://groups.googl

Re: [RBW] Re: BB length for Atlantis with White VBC cranks?

2014-05-18 Thread erik jensen
I'm rolling a 40x24, for climbing infinity and maximum clearance. I'm within a few mm of rubbing 60s. Not sure if I have a 113 or 118 down there, been a year or so since I replaced it. On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Shoji Takahashi wrote: > Wow, really? Erik of Bikenoir/Cosmic Country mentione

Re: [RBW] Re: BB length for Atlantis with White VBC cranks?

2014-05-19 Thread Mark Reimer
Well it's still a mystery. I used some callipers to measure the BB in my frame, it's 114 from end-to-end and my rings bottom out on the frame before the BB taper even starts to make full contact. Using the instructions on the white industries website, they'd have me running a spindle over 140,

Re: [RBW] Re: BB length for Atlantis with White VBC cranks?

2014-05-20 Thread Mark Reimer
Since this has been a topic on my mind, I just noticed that the hunqapillar on the Radavist has the White Industries *road* VBC cranks, which have a very narrow Q factor, plus 46/36 rings, which should be even harder to fit than my situation. Confounding! http://theradavist.com/2014/05/allans-hu

Re: [RBW] Re: BB length for Atlantis with White VBC cranks?

2014-05-21 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi Mark, Did you try Keven or Brian at Riv? They both run VBC cranks. Brian's Hunqapillar http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff10.htm Keven's Appaloosa http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff3.htm Good eye on the Radavist-- it seems like Jared (at Riv) may have insight into the BB length. Keep m

Re: [RBW] Re: BB length for Atlantis with White VBC cranks?

2014-05-21 Thread Mark Reimer
Great call, Just sent Brian an email about it. He's also running the road VBC cranks like the Hunq on the Radavist. Very curious how that works. Last night I bought a super cheap 127.5mm BB just to try it out. Turns out it does work, despite the White Ind calculations pointing me to a much long

Re: [RBW] Re: BB length for Atlantis with White VBC cranks?

2014-05-22 Thread erik jensen
This is being over complicated. You are trying to equip a road double, with way too high of an inner ring, on a bike with 60mm tire clearances. You will need a crazy wide bb to do so. 125 isn't very long, old mountain bikes with high profile cranks used them (early 80s mb-1s among them). The solut

Re: [RBW] Re: BB length for Atlantis with White VBC cranks?

2014-05-22 Thread Mark Reimer
The ENO crank is not a road double actually, it is a mountain double crank. VBC cranks are offered in two variations - road and mountain. ENO cranks are the single speed and mountain double arms. The cranks I have are designed with wide chain stays in mind, so this should work. I always knew th

Re: [RBW] Re: BB length for Atlantis with White VBC cranks?

2014-05-22 Thread Mark Reimer
Realized after posting that you likely were referring to the 46/36 chain ring sizes as being a road double, not the actual crank arms. My mistake. Ride your bike! On Thursday, May 22, 2014 4:47:57 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: > > The ENO crank is not a road double actually, it is a mountain doub

Re: [RBW] Re: BB length for Atlantis with White VBC cranks?

2014-05-23 Thread rperks
Mark, I am correct in thinking that you picked up these cranks used? and if you have a 113 bb spindle, new or in good shape, can you put the arms on said spindle out of the bike, so that the arms are across from each other, and torque down to spec of 30 ft lbs? From there it should be easy to

Re: [RBW] Re: BB length for Atlantis with White VBC cranks?

2014-05-27 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Mark, I installed the White ENO/VBC Mountain on my Hunqapillar. It's a 44/26 on a 113 Shimano BB. There's not much room for a larger inner ring (or outer ring for that matter). Here's a pic of the inner ring. https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/14266122862/ The distance to the chain stay is clos

Re: [RBW] Re: BB length for Atlantis with White VBC cranks?

2014-05-27 Thread Mark Reimer
Oh thanks Shoji!! That's awesome that it fit on a 113. Thanks for sharing. Once my rings come in, I'll share a photo of the ring/bb combination here as well for future reference. On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Shoji Takahashi wrote: > Mark, > I installed the White ENO/VBC Mountain on my Hunqap

Re: [RBW] Re: BB length for Atlantis with White VBC cranks?

2014-05-28 Thread Mark Reimer
Rob, thanks for the tips. Sorry to have delayed my reply. You are correct, these cranks are new. I had also wondered about the condition of the crank arms, but thankfully they seem to be in great shape. I can torque the arms down to 30 ft lbs and based on my eyeball measurements, I'd say I have