[RBW] Re: Berthold Fender Installation- It went so smooth.. till it didn't.. sheesh

2011-09-18 Thread Earl Grey
Yep. Your bike is dirty, and your garage is a real mess. ;) Love the look of the Berthoud flap and hardware. Gernot I don't see no dirt, time for new glasses? Huber On Sep 17, 6:42 am, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Photos here.. ya bike is dirty

[RBW] Re: Berthold Fender Installation- It went so smooth.. till it didn't.. sheesh

2011-09-18 Thread Earl Grey
Mark. Remove. Drill. Reinstall. Mark the next. That sums it up. I don't find it tedious, but it ain't fast. Think of it as meditation and you'll be all right. And the Winter 2011 BQ article *is* excellent. I found the bit on how to massage the fender line especially helpful (bend the fender

Re: [RBW] Re: Berthold Fender Installation- It went so smooth.. till it didn't.. sheesh

2011-09-18 Thread Ken Freeman
One point: Do not do anything involving bicycles and fasteners over grass. Usually if (WHEN!) you drop one it will become buried under all the grass and not findable. Then you're faced with replacing a usually unique bolt or washer (such as something on a Campy or Shimano part) that may or may

[RBW] Re: Berthold Fender Installation- It went so smooth.. till it didn't.. sheesh

2011-09-18 Thread Kelly Sleeper
The low front is great on the road .. wet roads especially great... however it does drag the grass when I cut t through fields or yards or even bounce off a curb. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this

Re: [RBW] Re: Berthold Fender Installation- It went so smooth.. till it didn't.. sheesh

2011-09-18 Thread Ken Freeman
Alex Wetmore had (has?) a site on his touring tweaks, featuring DIY mudflaps. His reasoning is that a flap blocks more water from soaking your feet, BB, crank, and chain, the lower it's bottom extends. So, as low as you can, as long as any contact with the ground is tolerable. On Sun, Sep 18,

Re: [RBW] Re: Berthold Fender Installation- It went so smooth.. till it didn't.. sheesh

2011-09-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2011-09-18 at 07:29 -0400, Ken Freeman wrote: One point: Do not do anything involving bicycles and fasteners over grass. Usually if (WHEN!) you drop one it will become buried under all the grass and not findable. Then you're faced with replacing a usually unique bolt or washer

[RBW] Re: Berthold Fender Installation- It went so smooth.. till it didn't.. sheesh

2011-09-17 Thread Jim Cloud
I think the relative difficulty of mounting aluminum fenders varies from one bike to another. I acquired my Honjo fenders before the YouTube existed, and I used a photograph in a book to get the fender struts positioned correctly (a photo of a very cherry Rene Herse Randonneuse bike in the book

[RBW] Re: Berthold Fender Installation- It went so smooth.. till it didn't.. sheesh

2011-09-16 Thread Minh
Kelly, I laughed reading this. I did my first metal fender installation last winter (after many an SKS install) and felt the same way. I think we forget that metal fenders at one point were only done by shops that actually custom fit them to bikes. As you have shown, while fenders today are

[RBW] Re: Berthold Fender Installation- It went so smooth.. till it didn't.. sheesh

2011-09-16 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
I heard many stories, even from people working for bike shops, about the difficulty... well, I kind of assumed they meant tedium... of mounting metal fenders. I always suspected that it wouldn't be *too* tedious compared to putting on SKS chromoplastic ones, which I had done several different

[RBW] Re: Berthold Fender Installation- It went so smooth.. till it didn't.. sheesh

2011-09-16 Thread Michael Hechmer
Kelly, thank you, thank you, thank you for the honesty of your post. As both an amateur mechanic and amateur woodworker I have been repeatedly snookered by expert instructions that lulled me into thinking something would be straightforward and doable, only to be reduced to speaking

Re: [RBW] Re: Berthold Fender Installation- It went so smooth.. till it didn't.. sheesh

2011-09-16 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 15:07 -0700, Michael Hechmer wrote: Kelly, thank you, thank you, thank you for the honesty of your post. As both an amateur mechanic and amateur woodworker I have been repeatedly snookered by expert instructions that lulled me into thinking something would be

Re: [RBW] Re: Berthold Fender Installation- It went so smooth.. till it didn't.. sheesh

2011-09-16 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Ok all this install uninstall breath stuff... they make 5 lb sludge hammers for that and the aggression is relieved quicker. :) Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: Berthold Fender Installation- It went so smooth.. till it didn't.. sheesh

2011-09-16 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Ok the photos are here.. bike is dirty and not the show quality most of ya'll post... Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: Berthold Fender Installation- It went so smooth.. till it didn't.. sheesh

2011-09-16 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Photos here.. ya bike is dirty http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157627561999537/ Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

Re: [RBW] Re: Berthold Fender Installation- It went so smooth.. till it didn't.. sheesh

2011-09-16 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 16:37 -0700, Kelly Sleeper wrote: Ok all this install uninstall breath stuff... they make 5 lb sludge hammers for that and the aggression is relieved quicker. :) That is not the path to success, Grasshopper. And besides, as the song says