[RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

2013-02-20 Thread Charlie
On Sunday, February 17, 2013 7:21:05 AM UTC-5, shawn wrote: I am doing the GAP and CO from Pittsburgh to Washington D.C. in May and was wondering what the opinion was of using 50mm Big Apples for this ride. Thanks in advance. Shawn Hi I have used these (and Small block 8 26 similar

[RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

2013-02-20 Thread Brad Mitchell
I rode both last spring on 42mm Continental Tour Rides. Felt great at the time, and I really appreciated the bit of tread on the muddy CO :) If/when I ride them again, I'd naturally ride something a bit wider probably. I'm thinking the Big Bens would be the perfect compromise. Duremes or

[RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

2013-02-19 Thread shawn
Rusty, Thank you for the generous offer, but we are starting our ride earlier than the 17th. Enjoy your ride on the Katy Trail. On Monday, February 18, 2013 10:25:59 AM UTC-5, Rusty Click wrote: They may be slow, but only if you're doing this ride in 4 days. In that case, speed might

[RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

2013-02-18 Thread ascpgh
Shawn: If you choose the 50 mm BAs just for this ride, the C O part might provide enough poor drainage and mud to have you wishing for something less floaty. Remember when you leave Hancock that there are 17 miles of asphalt you can default to on the opposite side of the canal from the C O;

[RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

2013-02-18 Thread John Philip
I like the 50mm BA as well but agree with Bobby they are NOT good in mud. The last time I rode the CO it was wet and muddy. I ran 50mm Duremes and was glad for the tread. On Sunday, February 17, 2013 7:21:05 AM UTC-5, shawn wrote: I am doing the GAP and CO from Pittsburgh to Washington D.C.

[RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

2013-02-18 Thread shawn
All thanks for the input. I am glad to hear that many of you have ridden this ride with BA and were happy with their performance. I have only ridden a short distance on the BAs and they feel great, especially going down my long rough gravel drive way. I was concerned that the tires might be too

[RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

2013-02-18 Thread John Philip
Here's a pic of my 68 Atlantis on the GAP last spring on the Riv Rally. The tires are 40 mm Dureme The fenders are 60mm Berthoud fitted for 50mm tires. I chose the 40mm tire for this trip because... I just had a feeling:) I was glad for the extra clearance. I had to stop on the CO on the

[RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

2013-02-18 Thread John Philip
Here it is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/7109411767/in/set-72157629525386656 On Monday, February 18, 2013 8:42:53 AM UTC-5, John Philip wrote: Here's a pic of my 68 Atlantis on the GAP last spring on the Riv Rally. The tires are 40 mm Dureme The fenders are 60mm Berthoud fitted

[RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

2013-02-18 Thread Rusty Click
They may be slow, but only if you're doing this ride in 4 days. In that case, speed might matter. We've done this ride a handful of times, in both directions, and over different time frames. I highly recommend it. You'll have a great time. The scenery and history of the area is wonderful.

Re: [RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

2013-02-18 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Not a direct answer, and also subjective, but I got compliments on my '03 Curt with 45 mm 559 dimpled Honjos installed over 22 mm (actual) Specialized Turbos. I have to agree that the hi-rise 60 mm PBs on the Fargo looked odd with 34 mm actual Kojaks -- and per Jan there is more splashing when

Re: [RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

2013-02-18 Thread James Warren
I've never seen white mud before. Great photo! On Feb 18, 2013, at 5:45 AM, John Philip wrote: Here it is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/7109411767/in/set-72157629525386656 On Monday, February 18, 2013 8:42:53 AM UTC-5, John Philip wrote: Here's a pic of my 68 Atlantis on the

[RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

2013-02-18 Thread Kelly
Well of the 8 of us we ran everything from 700x28's to Amit's and I with Big Apples. All did the job. Here is Dawn on her Atlantis with 700x40's .. no issues with mud and fenders. Now a few people with tighter fits like the Holdsworth with JB's and fenders which were a tight fit did have

[RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

2013-02-18 Thread ChrisB
Hi Shawn I've been mulling over the same dilemma: Big Ben or Big Apples? In the UK they're both available in the 26 x 2.0 which seems fine with a 60cm mudguard if you're not ploughing through muddy trails. The review from Rivs swing me towards Ben: its's the newer tyre and probably more

[RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

2013-02-17 Thread jpp
They would work great. Like Dan said you can even go thinner. It is not too rugged, but the big apples would give you a nice cushy ride. On Sunday, February 17, 2013 7:21:05 AM UTC-5, shawn wrote: I am doing the GAP and CO from Pittsburgh to Washington D.C. in May and was wondering what

[RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

2013-02-17 Thread Minh
Are you worried that they will be too big or too small? On the gap end you might feel they are overkill but on the co end you'll be glad to have them. Besides the conditions, the co end drains poorly so it will be muddier if there is a lot of rain this spring. Any speed lost on the gap end

[RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

2013-02-17 Thread shawn
Minh, I am a little worried that they may be too big and slow. On Sunday, February 17, 2013 9:04:03 PM UTC-5, Minh wrote: Are you worried that they will be too big or too small? On the gap end you might feel they are overkill but on the co end you'll be glad to have them. Besides the

Re: [RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

2013-02-17 Thread Joan Oppel
How long are you allowing for the trip? It's much more fun if you give yourself time to stop in some of the towns along the way, Check out the historical markers, things like that. The Big Apples probably won't make that much difference in a week's trip. Joan On 02/17/13, shawn wrote:

[RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

2013-02-17 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I've been using BAs for years, and I find them to be great on gravel and similar surfaces. They probably aren't the fastest tires available, but who cares. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

2013-02-17 Thread Kelly
I road it last October and was glad to have the BA's. Then again for touring I don't think they slow me down either. With 70 pounds on the bike the Big Apples just make it more stable, with less worries. I also road them on the Alaska trip. I've also ridden the GAP on 700x35's .. I'll

Re: [RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

2013-02-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
FWIW, although my 60 mm BAs are definitely slower than my 35 mm Kojaks on pavement (I gear ~65 with them for cruising on pavement versus ~70 for the Ks) they are probably as fast as the Ks on firm gravel and dirt, to the extent that on firm gravel - or perhaps it's crushed stone: I'm thinking of

Re: [RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

2013-02-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Forgot to add that, IME, the biggest liability in speed with even the fattest BAs at very low pressures is when accelerating and climbing -- and I think I can say that they also have noticeably more wind resistance against strong headwinds. They do roll very well for their width and weight and

[RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

2013-02-17 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Last Spring I rode BA 2.15s on the GAP trail for 2 days (Cumberland to Ohiopyle)... They were perfect. I am a big fan of the Big Apples, but having said that, they're great for drier conditions... They're NOT good in mud; they slide out very easily. Keeping that in mind, I love em. BB On