Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-19 Thread sameness
Aww, too bad I missed it. Just checked my spam, definitely wasn't me, ha. Next time! And yeah, if you went to the Intelligentsia on Abbott Kinney, I'd be confounded if you didn't see another Riv in the neighborhood, it's a little... hip around there. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Tues

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-19 Thread sameness
I'm glad you had a good time out here and that the generally cooperative weather actually cooperated last week. I was out of town but by all reports Saturday was a sunny ol' SoCal beach day. And yeah, I forgot to mention, "bike path" is something of a broad spectrum catch-all around here. Ever

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-19 Thread Joe Bernard
I have no experience with it, but it looks like simple way to covert a bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@go

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-19 Thread Patrick Moore
Imagination careering out of control, but I could see all sorts of custom paint jobs on that big, Copenhagen Wheel disk ... On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 1:35 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > Joe: Any opinion about the Copenhagen Wheel? It has good reviews and (IMO) > aesthetically might go nicely with a Riv

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-19 Thread Patrick Moore
Joe: Any opinion about the Copenhagen Wheel? It has good reviews and (IMO) aesthetically might go nicely with a Riv. On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 11:10 AM Joe Bernard wrote: > Yes, the front hub kit does work for some folks if you just want a little > throttle over a hill, it just isn't great on Rivs

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-19 Thread Joe Bernard
I'd buy that Rad Mini now if I got back into ebikes. Kinda wish I did instead of about 7 other experiments I tried. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-19 Thread Kathy Carroll
I appreciate it. May test the rad. No more money than conversion. On Tue, Feb 19, 2019, 8:10 AM Joe Bernard Yes, the front hub kit does work for some folks if you just want a little > throttle over a hill, it just isn't great on Rivs..they fit big, chunky > steel cruiser/rigid-mtb forks better. >

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-19 Thread Joe Bernard
Yes, the front hub kit does work for some folks if you just want a little throttle over a hill, it just isn't great on Rivs..they fit big, chunky steel cruiser/rigid-mtb forks better. Mid-drive is simple to install if you're familiar with it, but not as dead simple as swapping wheels on a fork

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-19 Thread KC
Good input Joe. I know you were steering me to the mid-drive and using it on the Groove. I guess I still have too much to learn to place an order. The people who we bought our house from had solved their problem with a front hub and were happy with it as far as doing what they needed from it -

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-18 Thread Joe Bernard
KC, one caveat I'll throw out there right away is most front hub motors seem sized for slightly larger dropouts than Riv forks use. I also have a bit of trepidation about how slim the blades are. Those front hub motors are not a good candidate for Rivs, in my opinion, plus in general are overp

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-18 Thread Kathy Carroll
Keith, I am interested in your input. I don't want to spend what I know I would end up spending for a purpose-built e-bike. And I really don't want another bike. I have 3 right now that I can justify my reason for each, but that's more than enough for me. Plus my husband and I are equally match

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-18 Thread Keith Weaver
I have to admit that I'm also an e-bike owner. I put a Bafang mid-drive conversion kit on my XO-3. It's a lot of fun, and lets me do my 12-mile (one-way) commute on days when high temps or high winds would otherwise discourage me from riding. If you have a frame/bike you already like, one of these

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-18 Thread dougP
Leah: This is February. Imagine that bike path in the summer. Add in kids out of school, headed to the water with surfboards, boogie boards, coolers, etc. On weekends families use the bike path as a "staging area" for their beach camping gear. Giant coolers, easy ups, tent things, grills, e

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-18 Thread Leah Peterson
Ryan, are you really converting a Rosco?! That is so exciting! I think your idea has true merit; he really wants both things; so I will look further into the Copenhagen/Bionex thing. I know where his head is at - if he’s spending so much on the e-bike, he should get the motorcycle, but then he’l

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-18 Thread Kathy Carroll
We are going to convert our bikes in the next couple weeks with a front hub motor. We need a boost to get out of the hills easily where we live now. I love my Cheviot and that let's me keep riding a great bike. On Mon, Feb 18, 2019, 1:00 PM 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@goo

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-18 Thread 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch
Leah, Although I love the variety of riding my multitude of bikes (mostly Rivendells) provide. I confess to the joy a simple boost that an e-bike provides. I fully expect to own one someday. I see your husband’s logic about a fully designed one from the ground up. Expensive is the correct w

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-18 Thread Leah Peterson
All is well! Sent from my iPad > On Feb 18, 2019, at 2:26 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch > wrote: > > Excellent! My apologies for my blunt head scratching. > > With abandon, > Patrick > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-18 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Excellent! My apologies for my blunt head scratching. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@goo

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-18 Thread Leah Peterson
Could be the solution to buy the motorcycle and keep the Clem. I’d abstain from calling him wimpy or weak. Biking isn’t his thing; he grew up on a farm and they rode motorcycles and snowmobiles. If biking isn’t your passion, it’s not your passion. His passion lies in his field of work, and he

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-18 Thread Joe Bernard
"..scratching my head in bewilderment at the appeal of an ebike. Have we REALLY become so wimpy and weak?" The problem is assuming everybody has to enjoy bicycles the way we do. Ebikes provide a fun way to get around for people who either can't or don't want to pedal as much as most of us do. F

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-18 Thread Joe Bernard
His best bet is a kit on his Clem, which I can verify is an excellent platform for an e-conversion. I'm sure there's someone in town who could build it for him. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this grou

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-18 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Or ... Bonus ... buy a motorcycle, keep the Clem and ride with the family when it is riding time? I’m no help here, just scratching my head in bewilderment at the appeal of an ebike. Have we REALLY become so wimpy and weak? Shrug. But, as you wisely point out, it made the day possible ... togeth

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-18 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
Roberta, how weird - you’re right - thanks for catching that! Google Groups is showing only a small bit of what I wrote. If you get the email in your response, I guess you see the entirety of what I wrote. Refer to Roberta’s copy and paste, everyone. 😊 Yes, if he gets an e-bike, there will be a

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-18 Thread REC (Roberta)
> > For some reason, I got Leah's full and exciting and happy report on my > phone, but I only see the partial one here. Leah--how lucky you can be if > J is willing to ride with you, albeit on an ebike. At least you'll be with > you sweetie. And, it sounds like it was such a great weekend f

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-17 Thread Patrick Moore
It sounds like an idyllic family vacation, well, apart from the cluelessness on the bike path. See below for an effective remedy. I've never ridden a Clem, but based on the 5 other Rivs I've ridden, just perhaps you could try to convince your husband to get a nice electric wheel or other conversio

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-17 Thread islaysteve
This seems like the best possible outcome for you and your family. So glad that it worked out, after all of this planning and discussion! Enjoy the rest of your stay in California! On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 7:38:47 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > > We had the best time biki

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-15 Thread Bill Schairer
If you leave those in the van unattended I would try to lock them to something in the van. I had a bike stolen out of a friend’s Honda Element with tinted windows in broad daylight in Long Beach. Bill S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-14 Thread sameness
It's probably about eight miles from the Marina basins to where the bike path runs out at Will Rogers, but you can poop out and turn around at any point north of the Santa Monica Pier without missing much once the novelty of riding next to the Pacific Coast Highway wears off. Jeff Hagedorn Los

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-14 Thread Joe Bernard
Right, I can Google it. 3 miles each way. Hey Leah, no ebikes! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-14 Thread Joe Bernard
I did The pier to Venice and back on a folder a couple years ago. That's a nice flat ride and not terribly long, if memory serves. Jeff, how many miles would you say it is one way? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubs

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2019-02-14 Thread sameness
There's just more... stuff to do and see once you get into Venice and on up into Santa Monica. If you make it to the Santa Monica Pier and the rain starts coming down, you're in the Third Street Promenade area, shops and restaurants abound. I live and work on the Westside, and in fact just cam

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-14 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Och! Well. You do whatchagootado. Get the yahoos out and moving, if only somewhat, on their own power. Maybe they’ll discover, through embarrasment at seeing you do the same thing fully human powered, and their own motion, that 1) moving is good; 2) human power is superior to wimpy suplimented p

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-14 Thread Leah Peterson
Thanks, Jeff. I would have made the mistake of starting at the beginning. I will take your advice because I don’t really want the airport and oil refinery views! What other intel are you harboring??? Sent from my iPad > On Feb 14, 2019, at 10:38 AM, sameness wrote: > > If you want to shave so

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-14 Thread Kathy Carroll
But if that gets him wanting to ride as much as she does it's win-win. And think what good shape she'll be in cuz he'll want to keep on riding, at least til his rear is killing him. On Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 10:20 AM Joe Bernard The problem is hubby is about to discover ebikes. Whoops! 😁 > > -- > You

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-14 Thread Joe Bernard
The problem is hubby is about to discover ebikes. Whoops! 😁 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-14 Thread Leah Peterson
Justin, I LAUGHED. So true. Let them eat cake! There’s a pop song and the chorus is “I keep on hoping we’ll eat cake by the ocean.” Weather. I know! I see Saturday as our one chance, and I am nervous it isn’t going to work out, but we’ll see how it goes tomorrow before we leave. If I cancel it

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-14 Thread Justin, Oakland
I say let them eat cake! What's better: enjoying the outdoors with happy people on wart-bikes or "enjoying" the outdoors with grumpy kids on beautiful bikes and others on wart-bikes and... -j On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 8:17:21 AM UTC-8, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > > > The trip is

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-14 Thread Joe Bernard
She does have one very narrow window of opportunity. My phone says rain Friday and Sunday in Los Angeles, mostly sunny and 59 Saturday. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving email

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-14 Thread Bill Schairer
If the trip is to be postponed due to illness, I wouldn’t fret too much. I’m in San Diego but I think So. Ca. Is to be wet and chilly this weekend. Might want to postpone anyway. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To u

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-14 Thread sameness
If you want to shave some time off the trip, I'd start near the middle at Marina Del Rey and take that up to Will Rogers. Nothing against starting from the south end, but the stretch from Manhattan Beach up to Playa Del Rey is somewhat unspectacular unless you like airports and oil refineries.

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-14 Thread Ian A
Leah, This is a great opportunity to set your family a fabulous example. If you ride the 40 miles without complaint or apparent tiredness, this 40 miles might not seem so difficult to your husband or sons next time you take a family ride. Roll with it and let them have their fun. Then point out

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-02-14 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
The trip is scheduled for this weekend and there’s been a major, heart-breaking knick in the paint job of my beautiful plan. Is it the strep throat my older son got diagnosed with last night? No. It’s much worse than that; in fact, it’s so bad, I’m liable to be kicked off this List. And it’s al

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-01-21 Thread REC (Roberta)
Imaging them having so much fun on this trip that they ask for all 3 day weekends to be biking/exploring ones in CA! I hope they gave you an early birthday present by going this weekend. On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 1:06:18 AM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > > O’Ryan of Michigan,

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-01-21 Thread KC
Somehow I missed seeing this. Since you have put the trip off until next month, I can add my suggestions. Consider coming out our direction and staying in San Diego. We love to park at Mission Bay and ride a loop there. You can pick from several to provide varying distances depending on how

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-01-20 Thread Surlyprof
I agree with Toshi’s route. Pretty classic SoCal ride and a very casual meander on protected bike trails.If you go the south direction, that takes you through Manhattan, Hermosa and Redondo Beach areas. Just south of that is the coast of Palos Verdes. That area is also nice but more quiet

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-01-16 Thread Leah Peterson
O’Ryan of Michigan, Surfing. This former citizen of God’s Country (ND/MN) has a deep and abiding irrational fear of Great White sharks. I have watched Shark Week for YEARS, and there is no going back; I cannot unknow what I know. And what I know is certain: they are waiting - with their soulless

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-01-16 Thread Matt
I can't recommend the Ventura-Ojai path enough. It's completely car free from the beach to Ojai, with just a few hundred feet on streets coming out of Ventura, and it's very easy riding, no hills—it's an old rail line. It is 15 miles up to Ojai, so depending on your yahoos' appetite to ride, it

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-01-16 Thread 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch
Leah, What kind of boots would God loving North Dakotan wear surfing 🏄‍♀️ exactly. Would love to see pics of you attempting to hang 10. Request to keep as much of this on list until final details; us cold weather Michigander’s like to live vicariously through others and dream of California ri

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-01-16 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Yeah Venice to Malibu is iconic S. California with muscle beach in Venice, the pier in Santa Monica and surfing in Malibu! Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from i

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2019-01-16 Thread Drw
if you/family havent been here before, and don't live near an ocean, i'd recommend riding the bike path from marina del rey into malibu. you'd hit the venice boardwalk (you could even drop into the canals), santa monica, the pier and third street if you want, and some nice coastline a little fu

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-01-15 Thread Patrick Moore
If you travel the Ventura-Ojai path, please take and post photos. I lived in the area briefly (Santa Paul/Ojai/Ventura) but it was very long ago and I'd like to see what the amenities look like now -- certainly there was no cycling infrastructure in 1979. Who knows, I am hoping ("hoping;" it's not

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-01-15 Thread Leah Peterson
You are all the BEST. I am looking through the SoCal options now and am really excited about a couple of them - The Marvin Braude bike path is especially enticing since there is so much to see. Also, the Ventura-Ojai path and possibly Irvine. Wow! I’ll talk it over with my beloved yahoos (who wi

Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-01-15 Thread Leah Peterson
Well ok, let’s all be yahoos then! At least it’s funny. And I can always do with more of that. I’m looking into the links the rest of you sent. I must say, I came to the right place - you guys are like genies in a bottle! Definitely not yahoos! Keep ‘em coming, Leah Sent from my iPhone > On J

[RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-01-15 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Yahoo has taken on less severe connotations, aye, Leah? Intended or not, you left all of us in hysterics laughing at eachother and ourselves all over again! That’s always a good thing. Afterall, aren’t we all yahoos? Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subs

[RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-01-15 Thread dougP
Leah: Here's a link to the City of Irvine that has maps: https://www.cityofirvine.org/transportation/irvine-shares-way Scroll about half-way down to the "Bikeways" heading. dougP On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 1:04:59 PM UTC-8, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > > I did not realize this wou

[RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

2019-01-15 Thread dougP
The weather on SoCal is predicted to be sunny on both Sat & Sun. I'm biased since I live here but for the conditions you describe, Irvine has a wonderful system of paved, off-road trails with gentle grades. Many loops are possible so you can do 20+ miles, not just out'n'backs. Especially goo