[RBW] Re: Cable End Soldering

2014-01-03 Thread David Bundrick
I used to solder my cable ends, for the same reason I am careful to align tire manufacturer markings up with valves - it shows someone cares. As noted, SS cables put a stop to that, so I've used bees wax, tape, glue, and spoke nipples, but ferules work and look best. Maybe I'll get some of the

[RBW] Re: Cable End Soldering

2014-01-03 Thread Roy Drinkwater
If you use ferrules, would that be considered as a lugged cable? Roy H. Drinkwater Lititz, PA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun

[RBW] Re: Cable End Soldering

2014-01-03 Thread Daniel D.
+1 for nail polish. Tried it when I was in a bind. But it's held up over a few years. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+uns

[RBW] Re: Cable End Soldering

2014-01-02 Thread Bill Lindsay
We should start tig-welding our stainless cable ends! On Thursday, January 2, 2014 5:37:36 AM UTC-8, Anton Tutter wrote: > > I have been soldering electrical connections for most of my life but I've > not once been able to solder modern SS cables, which is all I use on my > bikes. So instead o

[RBW] Re: Cable End Soldering

2014-01-02 Thread Corwin
Really nice polished silver rims! On Thursday, January 2, 2014 6:40:41 PM UTC-8, Ken Yokanovich wrote: > > I have been using 56% silver and compatible flux to solder the ends of my > stainless steal cables. It works pretty well, but the silver does tarnish > somewhat after time. Here is a quick/

[RBW] Re: Cable End Soldering

2014-01-02 Thread sameness
I'm pro-ferrule. I take great pride in the two spot-on perpendicular crimp marks of equal depth which divide the ferrule into perfect thirds. I often sacrifice two or three early and unsatisfying attempts to the landfill gods in the process. And yet I'll go an easy year plus without washing my b

[RBW] Re: Cable End Soldering

2014-01-02 Thread Ken Yokanovich
I have been using 56% silver and compatible flux to solder the ends of my stainless steal cables. It works pretty well, but the silver does tarnish somewhat after time. Here is a quick/crummy iPhone photo, http://www.flickr.com/photos/31359238@N06/11721719064/ On Sunday, December 29, 2013 10:42

[RBW] Re: Cable End Soldering

2014-01-02 Thread Anton Tutter
I have been soldering electrical connections for most of my life but I've not once been able to solder modern SS cables, which is all I use on my bikes. So instead of solder, I use narrow (1/8") shrink tubing. It doesn't look as bulky as a typical crimp end. The key to good shrink tube appli

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable End Soldering

2014-01-01 Thread Ron Mc
tin the cable end, slide up the ferrule, stick the torch on the outside of the ferrule and let the solder suck in to make a classic socket. On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 10:34:44 PM UTC-6, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote: > > You are, of course, correct. However, untwisting the strands a bit to > cl

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable End Soldering

2013-12-31 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
You are, of course, correct. However, untwisting the strands a bit to clean the ends does not necessary mean they cannot be twisted back to their original twisted configuration. The stainless strands are quite strong and thus have a bit to go before exceeding their yield and becoming permanently

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable End Soldering

2013-12-31 Thread Patrick Moore
Is your typical generic brake or derailleur cable today stainless steel? I mean the ones that come in bulk packaging. Shoe Goo: I like that idea; anyone care to post a photo of the final product? On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote: > It is possible to solder stainless if

[RBW] Re: Cable End Soldering

2013-12-31 Thread Garth
I used electrical tape in a pinch, and found it stayed on day after day, so I left it there . How about that :) Duct tape would good too. Vanity factor ? Are U kidding ?!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Re: Cable End Soldering

2013-12-31 Thread Dave Redmon
Do your heat-shrink insulators allow one to strip the cable through the housing both ways? What size / color do you use? Dave in Kansas On Monday, December 30, 2013 5:29:05 AM UTC-6, William R. wrote: > I have been using heat shrink wiring insulators for a while now with nice > results. Abou

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable End Soldering

2013-12-31 Thread hugh flynn
I'm still using bee's wax. Simple. Clean. Nice. Hugh Flynn Newburyport, MA On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote: > It is possible to solder stainless if you use the right flux. Look for > stainless-specific flux; they usually contain zinc chloride and > hydrochloric acid

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable End Soldering

2013-12-31 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 12/30/2013 11:17 PM, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote: You'll want to fray out the individual strands a bit to clean them with alcohol or something similar before applying the flux, I thought the entire point of the exercise was to prevent the individual strands from fraying out. Open that box &

[RBW] Re: Cable End Soldering

2013-12-30 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
It is possible to solder stainless if you use the right flux. Look for stainless-specific flux; they usually contain zinc chloride and hydrochloric acid (read: ensure adequate ventilation). You'll want to fray out the individual strands a bit to clean them with alcohol or something similar befo

[RBW] Re: Cable End Soldering

2013-12-30 Thread George Schick
The comment about unsolder-able stainless cables replacing the old galvanized ones is spot on. I used to like to solder mine, too - can't do it any more, though. However, I do like the idea of placing a small piece of heat shrink on the ends - never thought about doing that before, but it's a

[RBW] Re: Cable End Soldering

2013-12-30 Thread ascpgh
Up vote that. Finished cables in that way at the shop, then put the end caps on delicately (CPSC compliant). Those were the MTB heydays and there was a 60% chance a newly, carefully, built bike would be back in a week or two after being heavily used off-road and in need of cable/housing cleaning

[RBW] Re: Cable End Soldering

2013-12-30 Thread Michael Glaser
I'm a huge fan of old school mechanics techniques, but the reason that no one solders cables anymore is that stainless has all but displaced galvanized steel for cables on nicely-spec'd bikes. And apart from being able to take solder, galvanized cables have nothing on good quality stainless ca

[RBW] Re: Cable End Soldering

2013-12-29 Thread Glen
I used to used to end my cables with solder. I would place an iron on the cable at about a half inch from the end and the place the solder on the cut end and let it flow up the cable. It worked well. Make sure that there are no stray strands as they will stick out and you will get poked by that

[RBW] Re: Cable End Soldering

2013-12-29 Thread Michael
> > I like using ferrules. Nothing wrong with soldering, though. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups

[RBW] Re: Cable End Soldering

2013-12-29 Thread hsmitham
No not so much. But it sounds like a good idea and also would look slick. ~Hugh On Sunday, December 29, 2013 8:42:10 PM UTC-8, Tom Virgil wrote: > > So I don't like cable ends with ferrules that have nasty looking plier > pinch marks on them. In the old days, I would size the cable, cut it, di