Re: [RBW] Re: Carboon failures

2010-03-10 Thread cyclotourist
The suicidal squirrel/CF conversation usually turns into a spoke count conversation :-) On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:50 AM, NickBull nick.bike.b...@gmail.com wrote: Suicidal squirrels seem to be fairly common, in my experience. I've had two in the last seven years -- one I ran over, the other

[RBW] Re: Carboon failures

2010-03-10 Thread William
Sorry for my part of the disagreement. I agree the exchange felt neither hostile nor irrational. I have no bad feelings for any of the posters with whom I expressed disagreement. I'll bow out as well. On Mar 9, 5:52 pm, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Mar 9, 2010, at 6:56 PM,

Re: [RBW] Re: Carboon failures

2010-03-09 Thread CycloFiend
on 3/8/10 7:08 PM, bfd at bfd...@yahoo.com wrote: On Mar 8, 4:27 pm, Big Paulie pauldgr...@yahoo.com wrote: This thread should be the last carbon fiber-related topic in this group, ever. This is a Rivendell owner's group. Rivendell doesn't make or sell anything made of carbon.

Re: [RBW] Re: Carboon failures

2010-03-09 Thread Shaun Meehan
Yeah, March can get dicey on some lists. But it's starting to get nice here in Minnesota! Anyway, I agree with Jim's take on it. I think what Grant is getting at when he says steel is repairable is that it's possible to do a functional (albeit in some cases ugly) field repair that will get you on

[RBW] Re: Carboon failures

2010-03-09 Thread scott
Okay, so carbon bashing is done...I say we morph this topic into something more useful, or at least more cathartic for all involved-- how about strangest or most bizarre component failure of any kind (maybe also some field repairs). I'm thinking in the spirit of the new Reader piece on the spoke

[RBW] Re: Carboon failures

2010-03-09 Thread William
I think you are locking in on a semantic argument that is not Grant's main focus. When Grant states the carbon is not repairable, I think Grant is talking mainly about the catastrophic failures that only carbon can and does exhibit. Like when the headtube breaks off from the top tube and

[RBW] Re: Carboon failures

2010-03-09 Thread bfd
Wow, I'm trying to comply with Jim's request that we end this thing. All I can say is you appear to be mixing apples and oranges. IF Grant's concern is about carbon breaking catastrophically and causing death and destruction, then he ought to say that. That's his opinion and I have no problem with

[RBW] Re: Carboon failures

2010-03-09 Thread William
IF Grant's concern is about carbon breaking catastrophically and causing death and destruction, then he ought to say that. Grant's most recent Riv News (March 6th, 2010) was identified as a direct response to this forum and we can assume was to a large extent a response directly to you. In that

[RBW] Re: Carboon failures

2010-03-09 Thread Michael Glaser
I've been hesitant to join the fray because I'd really like this entire thread to wind down. We all come to this forum because we appreciate the form and function of lugged steel bikes that are built with recreational / utility riders in mind. I personally do not enjoy the conflict that seems so

[RBW] Re: Carboon failures

2010-03-09 Thread Tim McNamara
On Mar 9, 2010, at 6:56 PM, Michael Glaser wrote: I personally do not enjoy the conflict that seems so pervasive in other on-line communities, and it saddens me to see it here. As the starter (maybe I should spell that starteer) of this thread I want to say that I had no intent of causing

[RBW] Re: Carboon failures

2010-03-08 Thread newenglandbike
Patrick, I normally enjoy reading your posts, but not this time. Tasteless is the only word I can come up with for that, although it doesn't quite say what i mean. On Mar 8, 5:30 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Graphic evidence of carboon (known colloquially as crabon) weakness:

Re: [RBW] Re: Carboon failures

2010-03-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
What, the fork? On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 3:45 PM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.comwrote: Patrick, I normally enjoy reading your posts, but not this time. Tasteless is the only word I can come up with for that, although it doesn't quite say what i mean. On Mar 8, 5:30 pm, PATRICK MOORE

[RBW] Re: Carboon failures

2010-03-08 Thread newenglandbike
Sorry I take it back.I did not mean to imply YOU are tasteless, rather the picture itself is tasteless I guess. I'm not sure what I mean. I just don't need to see photo evidence of someone's anecdotal encounter with a hapless squirrel. Sorry, I'll shouldn't have commented. On Mar 8,

[RBW] Re: Carboon failures

2010-03-08 Thread rperks
Looks like somebody traded in their fork for a hat and some stew. On Mar 8, 2:30 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Graphic evidence of carboon (known colloquially as crabon) weakness: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wb8bAl1P-N0/S5UF4SO8BLI/NBo/3px9Vh9... -- Patrick Moore

[RBW] Re: Carboon failures

2010-03-08 Thread newenglandbike
Patrick:10-4 / point taken. I'm over it now :D As for the carbon fork breaking on impact with the rodent's body, I'm less surprised at that than I have been on hearing other stories of carbon forks breaking (i.e. riding over a small branch in the road @8mph, etc.). You gotta figure, if

[RBW] Re: Carboon failures

2010-03-08 Thread newenglandbike
that being said, steel certainly wouldnt've done that, although the guy probably would've gone OTB hard. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: Carboon failures

2010-03-08 Thread RonaTD
On Mar 8, 5:23 pm, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: that being said, steel certainly wouldnt've done that, although the guy probably would've gone OTB hard. I don't think we have enough evidence to say that steel wouldn't have done that. On the other hand, I think we

[RBW] Re: Carboon failures

2010-03-08 Thread Big Paulie
This thread should be the last carbon fiber-related topic in this group, ever. This is a Rivendell owner's group. Rivendell doesn't make or sell anything made of carbon. Every carbon thread to date has ended in tears or virtual fisticuffs. Addtionally, Grant has made his postion very clear on

[RBW] Re: Carboon failures

2010-03-08 Thread bfd
On Mar 8, 4:27 pm, Big Paulie pauldgr...@yahoo.com wrote: This thread should be the last carbon fiber-related topic in this group, ever. This is a Rivendell owner's group. Rivendell doesn't make or sell anything made of carbon. Every carbon thread to date has ended in tears or virtual