Re: [RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-31 Thread CycloFiend
on 8/30/10 7:29 AM, William at tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: 1/2 per foot. Wow. I was brought up by some pretty fastidious mechanics. I was taught in the early 80's 2000 miles or 1/8 per foot, whichever comes first. Perhaps that's the reason I have always stocked up on chains and have never

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-31 Thread William
That clears a lot up. I was seriously pondering half inch per foot?dang, the 'fiend is an animal! On Aug 30, 11:00 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 8/30/10 7:29 AM, William at tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: 1/2 per foot.  Wow.  I was brought up by some pretty fastidious

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-31 Thread Lynne Fitz
I'm a fan of the KMC chains. You can get them at City Bikes. 3500 miles on the previous chain on Bleriot. On Aug 30, 12:31 pm, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Here's what I typically use... http://tinyurl.com/27zo2t4 Thinking it's time to go with this though:

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-30 Thread bfd
On Aug 29, 2:34 pm, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed... never broken a chain before last night. Thinking it pretty rare. Hoping it, extremely rare. Good thing you wasn't hurt. I ride 9 speed and use mainly Sram chains. However, I did use a Shimano 9 chain with sram masterlink

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-30 Thread MichaelH
I have run the Wipperman 908 of quite a few years. This is nickel coated, not ss, but it it outperforms, outlasts, resists rust much better than any other chain I have ever used - shimano, sram, ird. I think it would be a great choice in seattle. I've never used the ss chain, that's a whole

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-30 Thread William
1/2 per foot. Wow. I was brought up by some pretty fastidious mechanics. I was taught in the early 80's 2000 miles or 1/8 per foot, whichever comes first. Perhaps that's the reason I have always stocked up on chains and have never replaced a cogset or chainring due to wear in my life. On Aug

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-30 Thread velomann
I Like the Wippermann chains, though as I said, I run the Sram Powerlink chains on most of my bikes. I can't imagine anything harder on drivetrains than racing cyclocross, and in three seasons the Wippermann chains have done the job without failure. Originally recommended to me by Charlie Wicker

Re: [RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-30 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:29 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: 1/2 per foot.  Wow.  I was brought up by some pretty fastidious mechanics.  I was taught in the early 80's 2000 miles or 1/8 per foot, whichever comes first.  Perhaps that's the reason I have always stocked up on chains and

Re: [RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-30 Thread PATRICK MOORE
You answered my second question already -- dumb, dumb-dumb-dumb, DUMB! On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 9:33 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:29 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: 1/2 per foot.  Wow.  I was brought up by some pretty fastidious mechanics.  I was

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-30 Thread Michael_S
what kinda chain do you put on a Pugsley? with the larger wheel/tire the extra rotational load would seem to shorten the life of a chain. seems like a good case for a 1/2 chain. or maybe a tractor chain? I'm with William, 2k and change out the chain. It's the cheapest part of the drivetrain and

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-30 Thread EricP
Many years ago, while commuting in college ruined and entire drivetrain in one winter. Instead of cleaning the chain at regular intervals, just put more Phil Oil on it. By the time spring came around the chain was stretched, and both the freewheel and front rings had distinct hooks in 'em. Have

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-30 Thread doug peterson
Chains for 6-7-8 speed service are usually easy to find on sale so I stock up a few at a time. I've never broken a chain but have never pushed one beyond maybe 5k-6k miles in a mild, dry climate. I have worn out rings and cogs. Since 8 speed stuff is becoming increasingly scarce, I've started

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-30 Thread S.Cutshall
Here's what I typically use... http://tinyurl.com/27zo2t4 Thinking it's time to go with this though: http://tinyurl.com/397fww4 I use a 9-speed 'whatever is on sale' or 'costs least'. -Scott On Aug 30, 9:28 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: what kinda chain do you put on a

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-30 Thread William
I have no clue how much use I get anymore. It's a spectacular week if I get 100 miles ridden, shared between 3 frequently used bikes so it takes me years to stretch chains, and I no longer use a cyclometer so who knows how many miles that is. Every bike has super low gears now, so I'm sure the

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-29 Thread Bob Cooper
Ouch, Scott, that must have hurt. Any further info? Manufacturing defect, worn chain, damage to chain from stone? I know these things are hard to diagnose. Ride safe, Bob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-29 Thread charlie
Precisely why I carry a chain tool (plus some extra links) always and never depend on those goofy quickee links. I predict your repair kit will evolve soon. Thankfully you suffered no permanent damageright? By the way. the past article in the Reader regarding your lifestyle change was a

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-29 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Scott: Well that stinks... Park Tools makes an awesome folding chain tool that fits in your pocket or tool pouch... I always carry one of these along with a few extra chain links and a quick-link. I can't tell you how many times this has happened to me, where fortunately I had the tool and few

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-29 Thread S.Cutshall
I am doing fine, just sore and bruised [about to ride the Bleriot to get a new chain for the Pug]. No, I saw nothing obvious on the chain -but it was quite dark and with my h-bar light didn't notice much... and no inspecting it later as I chucked the chain into a garbage can near the place of

Re: [RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:47 AM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: .. Breaking a chain sucks, and is virtually unavoidable... walking home sucks even more. Agree with you on assertion two, but assertion one is not my experience, anyway -- at all true. In 50 years of riding

Re: [RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:52 PM, S.Cutshall great in the sand, Patrick... just take the tire pressure down to 4 or 5lbs PSI and go, go, go... -Scott 4-5 psi --- um! Makes the 12 psi on the BAs look like track pressures! Someday ... -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-29 Thread Jim Cloud
I've also only had one chain that broke on me. That was on an uphill stretch, which fortunately didn't end up with me being thrown forward. I had a chain tool with me, and some spare chain links. In a few minutes I was on my way again This occurred far from home on a lightly traveled rural road

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-29 Thread S.Cutshall
Agreed... never broken a chain before last night. Thinking it pretty rare. Hoping it, extremely rare. On a different note: just back from riding to LBS for chain [and some derailleur cables--as they looked pretty hanked]... 7 bucks a pop for cables [and a parking lot full of late model Saab's,

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-29 Thread charlie
Wow Scott...over 12K on a Pug ! Ghee whizz that is a whole bunch of riding. My cycling cap goes off to you. We're not worthy, we're not worthy, excellent !!! : ) I'm going to find the time to ride more because its fun.that's all I know. On Aug 29, 12:52 pm, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com

Re: [RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 3:34 PM, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: On a different note: just back from riding to LBS for chain [and some derailleur cables--as they looked pretty hanked]... 7 bucks a pop for cables [and a parking lot full of late model Saab's, Volvo's BMW's with roof

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-29 Thread S.Cutshall
Thanks. Yeah, this year my project has been, what I call, The Year of The Pug. I've tried [am trying] to do all my rides [pleasure, errands, etc] via The Pug. Mostly successful so far, a few rides on the Bleriot/a couple on my custom [before I stored it away] and a couple on loaners whilst

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-29 Thread William
12K on one chain? Isn't that way way way more than anyone would ever recommend? On Aug 29, 3:43 pm, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. Yeah, this year my project has been, what I call, The Year of The Pug.  I've tried [am trying] to do all my rides [pleasure, errands, etc] via

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-29 Thread S.Cutshall
Perhaps... I know this though, my ribs and pubic bone would wholeheartedly agree with you. That said, last year I got 19,700 miles out of single chain, in Portland, Oregon no less. -Scott On Aug 29, 4:09 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: 12K on one chain?  Isn't that way way way more than

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-29 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Patrick: I do a lot of mountain biking, and I bust 9-speed chains more than I care to admit and it's seldom quik-link that fails... I think the 9-speed is just too THIN, which is another reason I really want to stay with 7 or 8 speed (and a thicker-linked chain). I should ask where you buy

Re: [RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-29 Thread CycloFiend
on 8/29/10 4:09 PM, William at tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: 12K on one chain? Isn't that way way way more than anyone would ever recommend? Probably. On multi-geared bikes, it will tend to degrade the cassette cogs if you run the chain too long - i.e. past its + 1/2 stretch point for 12 link

Re: [RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I use 8 speed chains where I can, but I've used 9 and even 10 speed (Connex) chains on derailleur and fixed gear bikes with no problems, all with master links. I usually get the cheapest Sachs chains I can find. Perhaps the problem happens more with Shimano chains? 170 lb; tend to be a masher;

[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-29 Thread velomann
I agree with the advice on the SRAM Connex chains. I use their 8- speeds on everything I ride or build for others. (the exception being my cross bike which came stack with a 10-speed cassette and on which I run Wipperman chains) Thousands and thousands of miles on the Sram chains and no breaks

Re: [RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks

2010-08-29 Thread Rob Harrison
On Aug 29, 2010, at 8:13 PM, velomann wrote: on which I run Wipperman chains) How do you like the Wipperman chain? I noticed a while back they make a stainless chain, and thought I might pick one of those up next time I need a new chain. Rob in Seattle -- You received this message