[RBW] Re: Downtube bosses predicament

2023-03-14 Thread KenP
Yep, been there too. Usually an easy-out works if done carefully as mentioned in the other posts. You have to get that hole centered and deeper. Usually works. One more idea; drill the whole thing out bigger and put in a helicoil to replace the threads. One more idea; take off the boss comp

Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube bosses predicament

2023-03-13 Thread Will Boericke
Not sure what tools you have; my cordless drill has an impact-ish setting that is good for this work as well. Keep at it! On Mon, Mar 13, 2023, 3:14 PM Minh wrote: > oof tough situation. when you cut the slot and tried to unscrew, did you > use something besides a screw driver? like a wrench

[RBW] Re: Downtube bosses predicament

2023-03-13 Thread lconley
The other possibility is that if the bolt was stainless steel, it could have galled and again, penetrating oil will be unlikely to help. Tools: I have a set of thread cleaning tools - these are for cleaning up existing threads, they look similar to taps and dies, but will not cut into / remove

[RBW] Re: Downtube bosses predicament

2023-03-13 Thread George Schick
1. Bill sez, (...the recommendations of "penetrating oil" seem a little off-topic for this situation. Penetrating oil is good for corrosion situations. This is metal on metal brute forcing something) Bingo! I've been in situations like this before, too, and have found "penetrating lubr

[RBW] Re: Downtube bosses predicament

2023-03-13 Thread Bill Lindsay
You hinted at how you got here later down the thread. Can you describe exactly how you got here? The hint was you were screwing in a bolt into your shifter boss and you felt a lot of resistance and you just kept forcing it until the bolt broke. 1. Seems pretty safe to guess you did not run

Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube bosses predicament

2023-03-13 Thread Brian Forsee
If you think the slot you've cut gives you enough bite you can get decent torque on a screwdriver/whatever you're using, it may be worth trying the lubricant again. Put the bike on its side so the oil will drain down into the threads, and use a penetrating oil like pb blaster/boeshield/wd40 if

Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube bosses predicament

2023-03-13 Thread Minh
oof tough situation. when you cut the slot and tried to unscrew, did you use something besides a screw driver? like a wrench with a slotted socket? that could give you more leverage. if you can get a small hole, a torx driver could give you more grip, and same deal with leverage. since yo

Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube bosses predicament

2023-03-13 Thread Will Boericke
A hair dryer might give you enough heat to make a difference. Thanks for the drill guide tip, John. I'll definitely use that in the future. Will On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 2:08 PM JohnS wrote: > Hello Ryan, > > The problem with trying to drill out a hole and using a big enough > easy-out bit to

Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube bosses predicament

2023-03-13 Thread JohnS
Hello Ryan, The problem with trying to drill out a hole and using a big enough easy-out bit to be effective is getting the hole centered. Easy concept, but hard to do in reality since the drill bit wants to wander from center until it grabs. Solution, create a guide for the drill bit so that it

Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube bosses predicament

2023-03-13 Thread R Olson
Thanks all for your suggestions! I really appreciate it. I did work on this over the weekend, but unfortunately could not get it out. At first, I tried the slotting method - using a Dremel tool to cut a small slot in bolt, which I successfully did. I also added some lube and let it sit over

Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube bosses predicament

2023-03-11 Thread Steve
Ryan -Oh yeah - been there, done that!Here's one more trick you can try that I've had success with. Start with lube as suggested (maybe lay the frame on its side so gravity can promote penetration of the lube). Apply some "gentle heat" with something like a hair blow dryer. After the lub

Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube bosses predicament

2023-03-10 Thread Patrick Moore
I did something similar with my 2020 Matthews: overtorqued a dry screw holding a front lowrider to the fork leg boss, and snapping the head off, leaving <1/8" of the shaft protruding. It was just barely enough to grab securely with needle-nose vise grips and with liberal applications of spray lubri

[RBW] Re: Downtube bosses predicament

2023-03-10 Thread lconley
Use some penetrating oil on the threads (PB Blaster, etc.). Get some left handed drill bits and drill larger holes, preferably in the center of the sheared off bolt. It may be that the left handed drill bit will grab and extract the sheared off bolt all by itself. If not, the more of the sheared

[RBW] Re: Downtube bosses predicament

2023-03-10 Thread R Olson
Lol, glad to hear that these things happen to other people too! Thanks so much for your ideas Brian and Will! I like the slot idea. I do have a dremmel tool, so I might give that a shot. On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 1:04:55 PM UTC-7 wboe...@gmail.com wrote: > I hate these situations and find

[RBW] Re: Downtube bosses predicament

2023-03-10 Thread Will Boericke
I hate these situations and find myself there more than I'd like. I have never had a whole lot of success with EZouts or the like. It looks like you have a pilot hole there; I'd be inclined to drill a bigger one and hammer a torx in, maybe with some duct tape to ensure tight fit. Then unscre

[RBW] Re: Downtube bosses predicament

2023-03-10 Thread Brian Forsee
Ryan, If you have a (very) small rotatory tool/dremel you can cut a slot in there and then use a flat head screw driver to back the bolt out. If its not quite *completely* flush you can try grabbing it with some vice grips too. Good luck! If you cut a little bit of a slot into the boss itself t