[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-21 Thread Michael
There may be something to what you are saying about the hamstrings as I noticed the back problem starting when it started to get cold here in Maryland this year and my hamstrings seem to be tighter these days (I do some light regular stretching). I have the bars down to 1.75cm above

Re: [RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-21 Thread Rex Kerr
Adding more fuel to your fire, your saddle looks too far back to me. I originally set up my AHH with the saddle pushed back due to the advice I read, then spent 6 months wondering why I didn't enjoy riding it as much as my other bikes -- I just couldn't get comfortable. Once I pushed it forward

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-21 Thread Joe K
I'm far from an expert on fit -- I probably shouldn't even be responding here -- but under your body, that bike just looks small to me. Are you getting decent leg extension with the pedal at 6 o'clock? Joe On Jan 21, 4:31 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: Adding more fuel to your fire,

Re: [RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-21 Thread Peter Morgano
I didnt want to the the first Big Riv guy but the bike does look a bit small. On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Joe K kube...@aol.com wrote: I'm far from an expert on fit -- I probably shouldn't even be responding here -- but under your body, that bike just looks small to me. Are you getting

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-21 Thread Michael
According to the Rivendell Bleriot sizing chart in the Bleriot Flyer, as posted on the cyclofiend site, I fall smack dab into the 55 size. I was surprised how large I look on it whe I first saw the pics. I had never seen myself on it before and always thought it would look bigger under

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-21 Thread Michael
By the way: I really want to thank everybody for helping me on this. I really appreciate it! Kep it coming if you have any ideas. I need help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-21 Thread Manuel Acosta
The beauty of the human body... General rule of thumb is that the human body will adapt. Granted riding a bike is pretty unnatural when it comes to human movement. But like in anything that you do with your body... if you do it long enough and constant enough it will change according to the

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-21 Thread Kelly
Michael, It doesn't matter if it's a bicycle or a computer or you name it. Take the advice given and put together a plan of troubleshooting. Before buying or trading for a new frame in most cases if your contact points are the same the difference when you are looking at 2 cm is not going

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-21 Thread charlie
Michael, Did you change the tilt of the saddle to match the height change of your bars? Keep in mind however that a saddle tipping too far down at the nose will put too much weight on your hands and make you feel as though you are slipping forward. On Monday, January 21, 2013 1:16:47 PM UTC-8,

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-20 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
It LOOKS pretty good. It can't hurt to try lowering the bars, which is an easy, cheap fix if it works. Also, it never hurts (well, maybe a little) to strengthen the core muscles with sit-ups, planks, cobras, etc. Riding a bike doesn't really do much for these important muscle groups, and it

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-20 Thread Jeremy Till
It should be pointed out in all of this that the angle of the back isn't the only variable that will be affected by moving the seat forward. Seat position also determines how well your are balanced on the bicycle between your butt and your hands, and the reason that GP suggests starting with

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-20 Thread charlie
Rather than shorter reach bars a shorter stem will so the same thingjust do some measurement comparisons. You can also just hold on the curve of the bar and if that feels better maybe a 1-2 cmm shorter stem for a similar position on the hoods. One thing you don't want to do is limit your

Re: [RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-20 Thread Jim Mather
Based on this picture, I would suggest dropping your seat about a centimeter. Tight hamstrings can cause lower back pain when your leg extends too far. On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-19 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I'd like to see the whole bike. On Friday, January 18, 2013 11:47:23 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote: @JimThill: a pic of the cranks or the whole bike? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-19 Thread Michael
@Jim: Here are some. No closeups of drivetrain, though. http://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/8049462382/in/set-72157631680596119/ This is the only shot I have handy that has the drivetrain shown on it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/8226383846/ It is an Ultegra front

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-19 Thread LBleriot
I'll venture a guess that slamming the saddle all of the way back on its rails is the culprit of your lower back pain. This approach may be messing with your hip angle. On Friday, January 18, 2013 2:36:36 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote: My lower back has been killing me for the last month or so

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-19 Thread charlie
I'd lower the bar to level with the saddle height (measure from the ground up). Your back angle seems higher than 45 degrees when on the hoods. Your saddle height and fore/aft position seems okay. You would have to be the judge however. I've moved my saddle from where it was before to forward

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-19 Thread charlie
Measure bar height to the hoods..at the point where you place you hands normally. On Saturday, January 19, 2013 11:25:47 PM UTC-8, charlie wrote: I'd lower the bar to level with the saddle height (measure from the ground up). Your back angle seems higher than 45 degrees when on the

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-18 Thread IanA
I think the fistful of seatpost is more a general measure of a good frame size, rather than a measurement for saddle height. I'd suggest only adjusting one parameter at a time until you get dialed in. Just try the bars at a different height for now and see how that feels. On Friday,

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-18 Thread Kelly
I'm not claiming this is the cause of your back pain, rather I am relating to a time on a new bike where I had lower back pain. What I slammed the saddle all the way back set the height and figured I was good. All three contact points lined up except for seat in relation to the crank.

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-18 Thread Ron Mc
agree on the one at a time adjustment process. The last thing I tried to adjust was angle on the bar, and found at the end of a painful 20-mi ride (the pain didn't show up until the end) that it was better where I started. On Friday, January 18, 2013 1:36:36 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: My

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-18 Thread pb
How can shove the saddle all the way back and fist full of post be helpful fitting guides for a given individual on a given bike? Fist full of post is a frame sizing guide, not a saddle adjustment tool, and shove the saddle all the way back can't be more than a starting point for a

Re: [RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-18 Thread Peter Morgano
I think that some of us are princess and the pea type riders and some of us arent. I can also tell 2-3mm in seatpost difference, so much that I use a nice permanent marker to mark out where i left it and what date so I can go back and see how it feels (I use a pencil for the stem), some of us are

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-18 Thread EGNolan
Another variable may be saddle tilt. As my bars have gotten higher and I have become more upright, a little more nose up on the saddle has helped to relieve some lower back pain. -Eric INDPLS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-18 Thread wrickster
My 2 cents = Saddle slammed back Riv style - Although your hands love it, your back hates it. As we all know it's a balancing act - I would try to find a balance between hands and back with saddle fore/aft adjustment. -Ricky On Friday, January 18, 2013 2:36:36 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote: My

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-18 Thread Michael
@JimThill: a pic of the cranks or the whole bike? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/MycCGcGb1isJ. To post to this group, send